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Funny how just a year ago the "Sanchez won 4 road playoff games" blowhards were saying how much better he was than Flacco or Ryan.

Wait till Ryan Mallet takes over for Brady. This place will go nuts when he makes all pro.

You should try to find those posts. I'll wait here.

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but this thread does illustrate the dangers of success. As soon as you have good players they want money. Who'd a thunk it. The Ravens mistake was not sucking more, thus allowing them to cheap out on their under performing players. all this winning, it's bad for the cap.

When its the QB who's looking to get paid big money because of his performance, its a good problem to have. The Ravens lost multiple key pieces on defense this season yet the Flacco-led offense was the biggest reason they're in the Super Bowl right now. He went from an average QB to, perhaps, top 5 status with this playoff run. QB is the one position on the field you're allowed to vastly overpay for.

Meanwhile, we give Sanchez more money and years for sucking, actually had fans saying that was a good decision or the ONLY decision to make, and STILL think QB isn't that important.

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it's all part of a healthy anti-Sanchez breakfast. if playoff wins are due to luck then it explains how Mark won 4 of them, on the road.

We won those playoff games despite Sanchez. That 2010 Jets team was the best Jet team of all-time by a lot if you remove QB's from the equation.

Put Favre behind center and we win the division AND the Super Bowl in 2010.

An "Anti-Sanchez Breakfast?" lol. Yeah, because there's a mass conspiracy against him. Poor guy. He's a multi-millionaire who bangs hotties and sucks at his job and people just want to hate!

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We won those playoff games despite Sanchez. That 2010 Jets team was the best Jet team of all-time by a lot if you remove QB's from the equation.

Put Favre behind center and we win the division AND the Super Bowl in 2010.

An "Anti-Sanchez Breakfast?" lol. Yeah, because there's a mass conspiracy against him. Poor guy. He's a multi-millionaire who bangs hotties and sucks at his job and people just want to hate!

Sanchez allowed the Steelers to go on a 10 minute drive to start the game. Who knew?

Fantasy football is not a game to be trifled with, children.

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We won those playoff games despite Sanchez. That 2010 Jets team was the best Jet team of all-time by a lot if you remove QB's from the equation.

Put Favre behind center and we win the division AND the Super Bowl in 2010.

An "Anti-Sanchez Breakfast?" lol. Yeah, because there's a mass conspiracy against him. Poor guy. He's a multi-millionaire who bangs hotties and sucks at his job and people just want to hate!

Just like '08!!

Oh, and Favre was terrible in 2010, but lets not let facts get in the way.

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We won those playoff games despite Sanchez. That 2010 Jets team was the best Jet team of all-time by a lot if you remove QB's from the equation.

Put Favre behind center and we win the division AND the Super Bowl in 2010.

An "Anti-Sanchez Breakfast?" lol. Yeah, because there's a mass conspiracy against him. Poor guy. He's a multi-millionaire who bangs hotties and sucks at his job and people just want to hate!

2010 wasnt nearly as good as 1998

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Sanchez allowed the Steelers to go on a 10 minute drive to start the game. Who knew?

Fantasy football is not a game to be trifled with, children.

Some teams in this league get to enjoy fantasy football type performances out of their QB's week in and week out. Some teams get victories out of their QB's even when the rest of the team loses important players to injury or play bad defense. Others at least get QB play that, with the right breaks, get them to a Super Bowl (like the Ravens and Flacco).

Others, like us, think that a game where the defense allows 20+ pts means the game is over and try again next time.

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I disagree. If you were to take Testaverde and Sanchez out of the equation, 2010 kicks the crap out of the '98 team. Vinny played great that year.

The coaching on the 98 team alone sets it apart. Keyshawn and Chrebet were both beasts...defense made big plays all year.

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Just like '08!!

Oh, and Favre was terrible in 2010, but lets not let facts get in the way.

In '08 we didn't have a top 5 defense and running game. We had Mangini and his conservative defense. Not to mention, the Patriots didn't have Brady that year yet they still couldn't take the division.

Rex + Favre + 2010 roster = Super Bowl.

And a terrible 2010 Favre >>>>>>> Sanchez.

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The coaching on the 98 team alone sets it apart. Keyshawn and Chrebet were both beasts...defense made big plays all year.

It was a tremendous team, that cannot be denied. But say you put Sanchez on that '98 team instead of Vinny. No way they win 12 games.

The 2010 team won 11 games with one of the 3 worst starting QB's in the league. Think about that.

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It was a tremendous team, that cannot be denied. But say you put Sanchez on that '98 team instead of Vinny. No way they win 12 games.

The 2010 team won 11 games with one of the 3 worst starting QB's in the league. Think about that.

Sanchez wasnt atrocious in 2010. And the weapons, coaching on the 98 team > 2010.

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Sanchez wasnt atrocious in 2010. And the weapons, coaching on the 98 team > 2010.

Actually he was, despite having Holmes, Braylon, LT, Cotchery, and that running game. The 2010 season was what was used to suggest that, with improvement, he could be a good QB. But his numbers by any metric were still at the bottom of the league.

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We've been through this. Its a team sport where QB play is the most important factor by far, and never has that been more true than right now.. This impacts its dynamics in a major way.

No QB, other than Rodgers, was stepping into the Jets situation this season and doing anything remotely positive.

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Actually he was, despite having Holmes, Braylon, LT, Cotchery, and that running game. The 2010 season was what was used to suggest that, with improvement, he could be a good QB. But his numbers by any metric were still at the bottom of the league.

Right. And then all those guys where shown the door the following season for scrubs.

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No QB, other than Rodgers, was stepping into the Jets situation this season and doing anything remotely positive.

Bullsh*t. Drew Brees took the Saints to a 7-9 record, a miracle when you consider they had the worst defense in the league and an interim coach. Brees basically acted as offensive coordinator. You could make a case he was the league MVP, because with an average QB in his shoes, that team goes 1-15. No joke.

The elite QB's would have taken the 2012 Jets to the postseason. The 2nd-tier QB's would have given the team at bare minimum a .500 record.

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Right. And then all those guys where shown the door the following season for scrubs.

Holmes was paid big money to stay. Bad decision, but he was still the right one to keep if you had to choose 1. You didn't exactly see Braylon or Cotchery light up the league the next 2 years. Meanwhile, LT retired.

Burress may have been a scrub, but he still found a way to catch 8 TD's. Pretty freaking remarkable. Its no wonder the lockerroom got blown up when everyone confirmed what we knew all along; Sanchez sucks.

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Bullsh*t. Drew Brees took the Saints to a 7-9 record, a miracle when you consider they had the worst defense in the league and an interim coach. Brees basically acted as offensive coordinator. You could make a case he was the league MVP, because with an average QB in his shoes, that team goes 1-15. No joke.

The elite QB's would have taken the 2012 Jets to the postseason. The 2nd-tier QB's would have given the team at bare minimum a .500 record.

The Jets were not going to the postseason with the weapons they had on offense. The only people that somehow cant comprehend that are the few of you guys here that think the game is solely dependent on the QB.

Gates, Schillens, Cumberland arent NFL players, yet they werre playing big minutes for us all season.

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Holmes was paid big money to stay. Bad decision, but he was still the right one to keep if you had to choose 1. You didn't exactly see Braylon or Cotchery light up the league the next 2 years. Meanwhile, LT retired.

Burress may have been a scrub, but he still found a way to catch 8 TD's. Pretty freaking remarkable. Its no wonder the lockerroom got blown up when everyone confirmed what we knew all along; Sanchez sucks.

Exactly my point. You were overrating the talent the 2010 team had too. None of these guys were studs.

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The Jets were not going to the postseason with the weapons they had on offense. The only people that somehow cant comprehend that are the few of you guys here that think the game is solely dependent on the QB.

Gates, Schillens, Cumberland arent NFL players, yet they werre playing big minutes for us all season.

So you just want to ignore Keller and Kerley? Fine. We've had the weapons argument before.

True, the 2012 weapons were well below average. But if Sanchez has sucked even when he's HAD weapons, what's the common denominator here? Good QB's make their receivers better. Bad ones make people say "lack of weapons" was the reason for failure.

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Exactly my point. You were overrating the talent the 2010 team had too. None of these guys were studs.

LT was a Hall of Famer and played well in his final season for us. Holmes was a Super Bowl MVP, and almost single-handedly won us the Lions and Browns games that season. Braylon was one of the most beloved Jets receivers ever, for no real reason but there you go.

Meanwhile, you're forgetting how good that defense and running game were. The team was full of studs.

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So you just want to ignore Keller and Kerley? Fine. We've had the weapons argument before.

True, the 2012 weapons were well below average. But if Sanchez has sucked even when he's HAD weapons, what's the common denominator here? Good QB's make their receivers better. Bad ones make people say "lack of weapons" was the reason for failure.

Sanchez stinks. No one's ever tried to argue otherwise. But these buzzwords that you guys enjoy chortling about such as separation and weapons...are actually important in a team sport. CUmberland had no idea how to run a route. Greene had the vision of a guy with a grocery bag over his head. Schillens ran like he had lead in his cleats. These things matter do matter...Drew Brees wasnt coming in here and installing that Saints offense with CHaz Schillens, Shonn Greene or Jeff Cumberland.

Kerley is an average #3 and Keller didnt play all season. And I'll bet a decent amount of money that he's not an impact receiver on his next team either.

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Yeah I guess the posts that i saw in the past that Flacco stunk are not around anymore

He did stink. At least he stunk when they needed it most. He has performed well in the playoffs last year and for most of this season.But I would not give him 20 mill. What is the franchise price for a QB?

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LT was a Hall of Famer and played well in his final season for us. Holmes was a Super Bowl MVP, and almost single-handedly won us the Lions and Browns games that season. Braylon was one of the most beloved Jets receivers ever, for no real reason but there you go.

Meanwhile, you're forgetting how good that defense and running game were. The team was full of studs.

Larry Brown was a Super Bowl MVP...LT was done at that point and was probably still a better back than Greene.

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Sanchez stinks. No one's ever tried to argue otherwise. But these buzzwords that you guys enjoy chortling about such as separation and weapons...are actually important in a team sport. CUmberland had no idea how to run a route. Greene had the vision of a guy with a grocery bag over his head. Schillens ran like he had lead in his cleats. These things matter do matter...Drew Brees wasnt coming in here and installing that Saints offense with CHaz Schillens, Shonn Greene or Jeff Cumberland.

Kerley is an average #3 and Keller didnt play all season. And I'll bet a decent amount of money that he's not an impact receiver on his next team either.

Hey again, I won't argue that the weapons weren't very good. My overarching point is that Sanchez with weapons = Sanchez sucks. Sanchez without weapons = Sanchez has one of the worst QB seasons of all-time. When a guy needs ideal circumstances to even have moderate success, you have a major problem. And that is why I believe he is the # 1 reason for our failures. Its why Tannenbaum got fired, and why we need to find our own Joe Flacco (or better).

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Hey again, I won't argue that the weapons weren't very good. My overarching point is that Sanchez with weapons = Sanchez sucks. Sanchez without weapons = Sanchez has one of the worst QB seasons of all-time. When a guy needs ideal circumstances to even have moderate success, you have a major problem. And that is why I believe he is the # 1 reason for our failures. Its why Tannenbaum got fired, and why we need to find our own Joe Flacco (or better).

Wont argue this. Every position on offense needs to be upgraded aside from the OL.

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In '08 we didn't have a top 5 defense and running game. We had Mangini and his conservative defense. Not to mention, the Patriots didn't have Brady that year yet they still couldn't take the division.

Rex + Favre + 2010 roster = Super Bowl.

And a terrible 2010 Favre >>>>>>> Sanchez.

That's just simply not true. Sanchez had a better QB Rating than Favre did in 2010. So, yeah. You're wrong.

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