DonCorleone Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 For Vernon Gholston...AKA the safer bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Look at what they have done in Baltimore though. Flacco isn't an all world QB but they have tailored their skill players around what he does well, do you really think the Jets would've done that? They have Torry Smith, Ray Rice, Jacoby Jones and Dennis Pitta, we have Holmes, an old Braylon, Shonn Greene and Chaz Schillins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 I don't doubt that you are correct. I am saying, that we move up to get Sanchez but we could have traded down to pick up Flacco. Flacco was known as a big qb with a big arm and good accuracy. But we passed for who? Look at what they have done in Baltimore though. Flacco isn't an all world QB but they have tailored their skill players around what he does well, do you really think the Jets would've done that? They have Torry Smith, Ray Rice, Jacoby Jones and Dennis Pitta, we have Holmes, an old Braylon, Shonn Greene and Chaz Schillins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Look at what they have done in Baltimore though. Flacco isn't an all world QB but they have tailored their skill players around what he does well, do you really think the Jets would've done that? They have Torry Smith, Ray Rice, Jacoby Jones and Dennis Pitta, we have Holmes, an old Braylon, Shonn Greene and Chaz Schillins. I think we are just seeing what sort of potential this kid has... zero turnovers in the entire post-season, and how many TDs? Like 11 or 12? Goes to show what a good QB with a very good OL and playmakers around him can accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hindsight at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I don't doubt that you are correct. I am saying, that we move up to get Sanchez but we could have traded down to pick up Flacco. Flacco was known as a big qb with a big arm and good accuracy. But we passed for who? Oh he's LIGHT YEARS a better player than Sanchez is but he's not Aaron Rodgers or Brees either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think we are just seeing what sort of potential this kid has... zero turnovers in the entire post-season, and how many TDs? Like 11 or 12? Goes to show what a good QB with a very good OL and playmakers around him can accomplish. Very true. It'll be interesting to see how Flacco's career continues to progress. They are about to lose a lot of key free agents, and the keys to the franchise (and the money that goes along with it) will be handed to him. Will he become a Drew Brees-like figure, where the Ravens are successful as long as he is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Flacco was hot garbage until this year, so let's not act like the Jets passed on a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Flacco was hot garbage until this year, so let's not act like the Jets passed on a sure thing. he was an interesting prospect but by no means Andrew Luck type prospect. Him going to the smaller school had people iffy on him. I liked him outta Delaware, but mostly cause I live local and saw him play a few times. His arm was freakish back then. But then again so was Jeff Georges. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The moral of the Joe Flacco story is that it's much better to have a QB with elite skills and coach him up/surround him with great talent than trying to coach up a game manager with average skills into a winning QB. DO YOU HEAR THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT THE JETS TO TRADE FOR ALEX SMITH!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The moral of the Joe Flacco story is that it's much better to have a QB with elite skills and coach him up/surround him with great talent than trying to coach up a game manager with average skills into a winning QB. DO YOU HEAR THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT THE JETS TO TRADE FOR ALEX SMITH!?!?!?!?! This. Flacco is far from perfect but they built that offense around his strenghts and his ability to push the ball down the field. He gives them a chance to win every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Very true. It'll be interesting to see how Flacco's career continues to progress. They are about to lose a lot of key free agents, and the keys to the franchise (and the money that goes along with it) will be handed to him. Will he become a Drew Brees-like figure, where the Ravens are successful as long as he is there? The Ravens have been a lot more successful over a longer period of time than the Saints have. Baltimore drafts as well as anyone in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I must confess, I only liked his size and his arm strength. I thought he got flustered easily and was mistake prone. He has been pristine this payff season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Flacco was hot garbage until this year, so let's not act like the Jets passed on a sure thing. That's just simply not true. Statistically, his best year was 2010. And if not for Lee Evans dropping a catchable ball, they probably were in the Super Bowl after he balled out last year in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The Ravens have been a lot more successful over a longer period of time than the Saints have. Baltimore drafts as well as anyone in the NFL. This is true, but they're about to devote about 20 % of their salary cap to Flacco. They're going to go from one of the NFL's most veteran squads to one of its youngest within the next 2 seasons. It'll be up to Flacco to guide them through that process, much like he guided them when the Ravens were battling injuries all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is true, but they're about to devote about 20 % of their salary cap to Flacco. They're going to go from one of the NFL's most veteran squads to one of its youngest within the next 2 seasons. It'll be up to Flacco to guide them through that process, much like he guided them when the Ravens were battling injuries all season. The are very young on offense though still. Their D is where all the turnover is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Mangini was a great at drafting and evaluating talent, so I've been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 DId we even bring Flacco in in 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 What you saw yesterday were 2 QB's with great arms making some tough throws- there might go the theory of weaker arm QB's leading your team especially with not a great supporting class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 DId we even bring Flacco in in 2008? Yeah and he was mentioned as linked to the Jets considering that they didn't bring Favre in until training camp had already started. At that point the Jets were choosing Kellen Clemens over Flacco. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 the Jets picked at 6, Flacco went at 18. Not exactly passing on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The are very young on offense though still. Their D is where all the turnover is going to happen. Not true. Boldin is probably gone. And guys like Ray Rice and Matt Birk aren't getting any younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Not true. Boldin is probably gone. And guys like Ray Rice and Matt Birk aren't getting any younger. Difference is they draft Bernard Pierce and we draft Bilal Powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Not true. Boldin is probably gone. And guys like Ray Rice and Matt Birk aren't getting any younger. Ray Rice is 26... Also Boldin would be a great pickup for the Jets... Difference is they draft Bernard Pierce and we draft Bilal Powell THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. It's pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 What you saw yesterday were 2 QB's with great arms making some tough throws- there might go the theory of weaker arm QB's leading your team especially with not a great supporting class You simply have to have the guy who can make all the throws. It doesn't matter how smart the guy is, only a great arm can throw into those tight windows in the NFL. When you say a guy can "make all the throws", its not just the deep routes. Even Sanchez sometimes can make those because all it takes is a receiver who can make a circus catch from time to time. We're talking about those intermediate throws where you have to throw it into a tight spot. You need a cannon for some of those. Big-armed QB's don't have to wait for openings. They can create them from time to time. We saw Kaepernick and Flacco both doing that time and again yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ray Rice is 26... And how many touches has he had already? Is it any wonder they turned to Pierce so much after giving Rice big money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Difference is they draft Bernard Pierce and we draft Bilal Powell Also they hire Jim Harbaugh and we hire Rex Ryan... They are on a different level of competence as a franchise... And how many touches has he had already? Is it any wonder they turned to Pierce so much after giving Rice big money? Rice will be good for at least 3-4 more years. Also you need 2 backs who can play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 the Jets picked at 6, Flacco went at 18. Not exactly passing on him. I'm sure they could have traded down a few spots had they wanted him. No one would have questioned them too much for taking Flacco, say, 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Boldin made some of the toughest catches I think I have seen over this playoff run-he is their playoff co MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yeah and he was mentioned as linked to the Jets considering that they didn't bring Favre in until training camp had already started. At that point the Jets were choosing Kellen Clemens over Flacco. LOL Magini's roster, something something, awesome at evalutaing talent, something something, Rex ran it into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 We Magini's roster, something something, awesome at evalutaing talent, something something, Rex ran it into the ground. Well we did go from a pretty decent roster to a bottom 5 roster under Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Matt Cavanaugh started Tyler Palko over Flacco at Pitt, then we hired Cavanaugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 We Well we did go from a pretty decent roster to a bottom 5 roster under Rex. By losing players at the end of their career like Damien Woody, Alan Faneca, Thomas Jones and Tony Richardson? lol. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 By losing players at the end of their career like Damien Woody, Alan Faneca, Thomas Jones and Tony Richardson? lol. No. Those guys right now are probbaly better than what we have on our roster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Matt Cavanaugh started Tyler Palko over Flacco at Pitt, then we hired Cavanaugh. LOL - Did Palko have ties to the coaching staff or something like that...honestly cant remember and thought that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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