Ranger Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I am all for drafting a rookie LT like D'Brick and rebuilding the offensive line through the draft this year. However, since when does drafting top 5 LT automatically mean he will start. I seem to recall that J. Ogden and others played a year at guard before being moved to LT. I don't rememeber anyone except Pace starting at LT as a rookie. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, wasn't Robert Gallery hyped as much as D'Brick. He still isn't playing LT yet. Just have some concerns with D'Brick and other LT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Marcus McNiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 Marcus McNiel yeah at RT, but I don't see any of them being a day 1 starter at LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Very good point rb...Gallery was touted so highly and is struggling somewhat. It is a risk you take..a top 5 pick with the Jets just scares me regardless who it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 yeah at RT, but I don't see any of them being a day 1 starter at LT. My knowledge of college prospects is limited. So I can't argue either way. I just like McNeil,Think he will be a masher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 My knowledge of college prospects is limited. So I can't argue either way. I just like McNeil,Think he will be a masher. I agree about McNeil and I think D'brick will be good too. The problem is they will need a year before they can start at LT. I see many people who say drafting D'Brick and other lineman to improve the line. That will happen but the linemen will need a year to develop. This is my understanding, or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 so rbl how do you think the Jets cure line problems with an aging team and salary cap problems? I think the Jets need to stop applying band aids and just address the problem. It is just part of rebuilding. Draft some studs for Brady Quinn in 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 so rbl how do you think the Jets cure line problems with an aging team and salary cap problems? I think the Jets need to stop applying band aids and just address the problem. It is just part of rebuilding. Draft some studs for Brady Quinn in 2007 I agree the line needs to be rebuilt. However, drafting these linemen will not make the line good next year. It will need time to gel and for them to learn. I will say again. I am for trading down in the draft for more picks and drafting say McNeil and others. But next year, when the line is still struggling to learn, everyone will say it's another bust of a draft. I don't think you can just draft linemen and say our line is fixed right away. I think A.Jones starts at LT next year. Draft a good center for Mawae to groom. McNeil starting at RT (yes I know he is small for a RT, but he will still need time to develop. Draft a G to start opposite Kendall. I think the line will be decent, but not good next year. The following year, Move McNeil to LT, draft another G, Groomed C, groomed G, Adrian Jones at RT or another drafted T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Unless you are drafting a RB, the same could be said about any first round draft pick. I think the philosphy has to be that your first rounder will be a key contributor but probably won't start until the second half of the season. It seems to be more realistic these days that players don't start right out of camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 You can't look to the draft to solve next year's problems. If it happens - it's great. But for the most part you are looking at 1-3 years of development for all of these players. Sometimes it's as much as 5 years before these guys are truly living up to potential. there are some exceptions such as RB/LB position usually can jump right in there easier than some other positions. It's not just an adjustment of college game to pro game you are taking mostly poor 21 year olds and making them multi million dollar corporatations there is usually some backfire to that (remember early Bryan Thomas for example, couldn't feed himself, "slapping his G/f in the airport" extortion etc.) One of my good friends said the other day: If some GM took me #1 overall in the draft, that's 40 million dollars that dude is never getting back. In some cases that happens too. My point is that you can't expect a rookie to come in and dominate against seasoned veterans, regardless of the position. it's not like if we were talking about drafting an elite QB or DT or DE we would be expecting the world from that guy right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Unless you are drafting a RB, the same could be said about any first round draft pick. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Pretty sure from Day 1 Tony Boselli was the Jags' LT.Same for Anthony Munoz. I have no idea baout Walter Jones, but I'm pretty sure he started soemwhere on the Sehawks' OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 It would be rare for any offensive lineman to come in and be a star right away-it will not happen. Especially in these positions a couple of years of development and learning is needed for these position. That is why it is most teams will not draft a lineman so high-they are looking for quick fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Eric Winston from Miami is gonna be a good pro IMO-D-Brick isn't even 300 lbs-that worries me for a LT-then again-what do I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 D'brick is listed at 6'5", 295. If he's solid, no problem. he cane easily add 25 lbs. to that frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 D'brick is listed at 6'5", 295. If he's solid, no problem. he cane easily add 25 lbs. to that frame. yes keep in mind he just turned 21. he would have been a top 5 pick last year at 280 and 20 years old. for the record i think a player like Marcus McNeil has the potential to be best rookie OT right out of the gate but Brick could be better over time (sort of a Pace/Jones scenario) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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