CrazyCarl40 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter More cuts and more players on market: Jets releasing Sione Pouha. I liked what Ellis showed, but we'll need another DT/NT now depending on the defense. Could this be medical or is it strictly financial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 look for him to resign at a lower rate. He wont find work anywhere else imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Maybe those whacky mock drafts that have the Jets going Lotuleilei have merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 He is a solid player. Plus just like saying that name out loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter More cuts and more players on market: Jets releasing Sione Pouha. I liked what Ellis showed, but we'll need another DT/NT now depending on the defense. Could this be medical or is it strictly financial? I think it's a combination of both age/health and money. Ellis certainly cannot be counted on to handle that role all by himself. He's looked good at times, but is still a bit of a question mark and has some health concerns. Makes you wonder if the Jets see themselves close to a new contract with DeVito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Maybe those whacky mock drafts that have the Jets going Lotuleilei have merit. Ha! I was about to say...that might change up my opinion of who the Jets 1st pick could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Totally competing in 2013, you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 This is nit completely unexpected. Resign the cheaper between DeVito and Pouha. Accelerrating the turnover a little bit as hes an obvious 2014 cut. They probably tried to trade him and found no interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Is the UDFA period a Mini-Draft? I expect a bunch of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 RichCimini Rich Cimini Po'uha was to count $6.2 M on cap. #Jets will get hit with $2.33M. Savings: $3.8M. Back trouble, age big factors. They lose a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 look for him to resign at a lower rate. He wont find work anywhere else imo. Of course he will. He's a solid player. The jets are tearing it all down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 2012 Jets Starter Dead Pool: Pace- X Scott- X Landry Revis Pouha- X Keller Slauson Moore Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 List of players who were significantly injured last season: -Revis -Holmes -Keller -Pouha -Baker List of players who have been, will be, or threatened to be released: -Revis -Holmes -Keller -Pouha -Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 RichCimini Rich Cimini Po'uha was to count $6.2 M on cap. #Jets will get hit with $2.33M. Savings: $3.8M. Back trouble, age big factors. They lose a class act. Pouha, when healthy, was a good player for the Jets, but BG and Cimini point to the truth-health and age are a killer in the NFL. The Jets had to cut him. In a rebuilding situation, a team can't afford to keep an older, injured player, especially one making $6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Could mean they think highly of Damon Harrison too. He looked okay in spurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 2012 Jets Starter Dead Pool: Pace- X Scott- X Landry Revis Pouha- X Keller Slauson Moore Bell They all suck. Remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 They all suck. Remember? Is that the smell of rebuilding on your breath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 They all suck. Remember? One admittedly it doesn't suck, he just doesn't make an impact. Great player, but not an impact player. See what I'm saying? I know he's a great player, probably a HOFer in his prime and the best ever at his position, but is that an IMPACT player? Is that worth my friend Woody's money? Revis is a thief in the night, operating in shadows and guerrillaing my friend Woody, and it's just not right. Mr. Johnson should have good boys working for him who will take what they get and know they can be dropped when hinting at being finished. Someone just has to calm him down and show him what's what. Nobody steals from my friend the Jets and my friend the owner Woody Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him land in New England next to Wilfork. Just because that's how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him land in New England next to Wilfork. Just because that's how it goes. That's what happens when you release good players. Good teams will pick then up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Is that the smell of rebuilding on your breath? I dont believe I ever argued against that the Jets are rebuilding. Its clearly obvious. That said, it doesnt mean they cant be competitive if they find the right replacements for these starters. The only players on your list that will be tough to find an equivalent replacement are Revis and Landry. The rest really shouldnt be difficult to replace this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Jets | Sione Pouha released Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:15:37 -0700 The New York Jets released DL Sione Pouha and saved $3.8 million in cap space. Comment | Source: New York Daily News - Ralph Vacchiano | Share: Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2NL6ls1zX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Is that the smell of rebuilding on your breath? Teams turnover their roster all the time. The Jets have been doing it for 2 years already and are good to go again next offseason just by cutting the worst contracts left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 So what do you guys think...9-7 next year? Rex gets a 5-year extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I dont believe I ever argued against that the Jets are rebuilding. Its clearly obvious. That said, it doesnt mean they cant be competitive if they find the right replacements for these starters. The only players on your list that will be tough to find an equivalent replacement are Revis and Landry. The rest really shouldnt be difficult to replace this season. They're going to replace 8-9 starters with no cap space, integrate them into a new system, and compete? C'mon son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Teams turnover their roster all the time. The Jets have been doing it for 2 years already and are good to go again next offseason just by cutting the worst contracts left. This, I agree with. I do not believe in "rebuilding" as a "throw away the year" initiative. Only a stupid ass fan would accept that sh*t in this day and age too. Teams turnover their rosters annually, some with more need than others, in order to win NOW. Teams regularly make huge turn-arounds in one off-season of turnover. The problem with perception here is the Jets specifically don't do it, or haven't done it. Hell we sat and waited for Mangini to turnover Herm's defense for 3-4 seasons. Jet fans, being stupid, accepted that pace. That was disgraceful, imo. Any schmuck fan that believes a rebuild takes multiple years and comes at the cost of throwing away a year deserves to be miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 So what do you guys think...9-7 next year? Rex gets a 5-year extension? Can you at least wait to see how FA and the draft shake out before beginning your parade of tears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Can you at least wait to see how FA and the draft shake out before beginning your parade of tears? Negative. He cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 This, I agree with. I do not believe in "rebuilding" as a "throw away the year" initiative. Only a stupid ass fan would accept that sh*t in this day and age too. Teams turnover their rosters annually, some with more need than others, in order to win NOW. Teams regularly make huge turn-arounds in one off-season of turnover. The problem with perception here is the Jets specifically don't do it, or haven't done it. Hell we sat and waited for Mangini to turnover Herm's defense for 3-4 seasons. Jet fans, being stupid, accepted that pace. That was disgraceful, imo. Any schmuck fan that believes a rebuild takes multiple years and comes at the cost of throwing away a year deserves to be miserable. Lots of bad contracts and/or dead cap money, no competent QB, and minimal young talent. Yeah, Idzik should definitely be expected to put a championship-caliber team on the field this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 So what do you guys think...9-7 next year? Rex gets a 5-year extension? Something along those lines, sure. The D has a very high ceiling if FA and the draft can go well. The OC, a really good one, just has to do what JN says good OCs do and sprinkle design, plan, and call pixie dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Lots of bad contracts and/or dead cap money, no competent QB, and minimal young talent. Yeah, Idzik should definitely be expected to put a championship-caliber team on the field this season. How can you talk about our "minimal young talent" when you have yet to see the 7 or more that will be drafted in a month? Or who will be added via FA... or what the Revis trade ultimately looks like. I understand you have a reputation to uphold but when you complain before you know what a 1/3rd of the team will look like it's kind of silly.. no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 This, I agree with. I do not believe in "rebuilding" as a "throw away the year" initiative. Only a stupid ass fan would accept that sh*t in this day and age too. Teams turnover their rosters annually, some with more need than others, in order to win NOW. Teams regularly make huge turn-arounds in one off-season of turnover. The problem with perception here is the Jets specifically don't do it, or haven't done it. Hell we sat and waited for Mangini to turnover Herm's defense for 3-4 seasons. Jet fans, being stupid, accepted that pace. That was disgraceful, imo. Any schmuck fan that believes a rebuild takes multiple years and comes at the cost of throwing away a year deserves to be miserable. If absolutely everything breaks right for the Jets--Garrard goes 24/10, Bilal Powell is a 1,200 yard back, Holmes and Hill combine for 15 TDs, and the scoring defense is top 10--then you'll be correct. No one is advocating throwing away a year. But, in all likelihood, given the situation we're in, 8-8 is an extremely optimistic bet. Hardly "throwing away" anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 8-8 is two more wins than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 How can you talk about our "minimal young talent" when you have yet to see the 7 or more that will be drafted in a month? Or who will be added via FA... or what the Revis trade ultimately looks like. I understand you have a reputation to uphold but when you complain before you know what a 1/3rd of the team will look like it's kind of silly.. no? I'm not complaining. I'm just pragmatic enough to not expect the team to be any good this season but, contrary to popular opinion, would love to be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Can you at least wait to see how FA and the draft shake out before beginning your parade of tears? What would have to happen in free agency and the draft for today's roster to become a 9-7 team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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