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A-Rod Will Make More Money Than Astros
Alex Rodriguez's 2013 contract of $29 million is more than the Astros' entire team salary of about $25 million.

A-Rod Will Make More Money Than Astros
 

NEW YORK -- Alex Rodriguez will make more this year than all the Houston Astros combined -- a lot more.


 

And he won't even play the first half of the season -- if at all.


 

A-Rod's $29 million salary tops the major leagues for the 13th consecutive season, according to a study of major league contracts by The Associated Press.


 

Rodriguez's Yankees are on track to have the highest payroll on Opening Day for the 15th straight year, climbing above the Los Angeles Dodgers to a projected $228 million with this week's acquisition of Vernon Wells.


 


 

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Games are won and lost on the baseball field, and it doesn't matter what somebody is paid every two weeks. At the end of the day, that person has to be better than you today.

-- Astros manager Bo Porter

 


 

With teams due to set Opening Day rosters Sunday, the Yankees' payroll will be nearly 10 times the spending of the Astros, who have shrunk their payroll to about $25 million.


 

"When we get on the baseball field with whomever the opponent is, they are not sitting there saying: 'Well, their players make more money than us, so therefore you're deemed a winner and we're deemed a loser,'" Astros manager Bo Porter said Thursday. "Games are won and lost on the baseball field, and it doesn't matter what somebody is paid every two weeks. At the end of the day, that person has to be better than you today."


 

Rodriguez, recovering from hip surgery, is followed on the money list by Philadelphia pitcher Cliff Lee at $25 million.


 

Three of the top six will start the season on the disabled list, with A-Rod joined by New York Mets pitcher Johan Santana (third at $24.6 million) and Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira (sixth at $23.1 million). Wells is fourth at $24.6 million and CC Sabathia fifth at $24.3 million, giving the Yankees four of the top six.


 

The Astros and Miami Marlins have no such worries about pricey players getting hurt. After lifting payroll to about $100 million at the start of last year and then flopping in the first year of their new ballpark, the Marlins slashed spending to around $40 million.


 

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig endorses the decisions, saying: "Every team runs in cycles.


 

"You have to understand where you are and not be afraid then to do what you have to do. Outside of building a good farm system, I don't see how you will remain competitive."


 

The price of competing keeps going up. The average salary projects to about $3.67 million, up about $200,000 from the start of last season.


 

As always, the Yankees did as they pleased. For all the talk of austerity under owner Hal Steinbrenner, New York will break the record of $209 million it set in 2008 and top the $200 million mark for the sixth straight season. While the Yankees will pay luxury tax for the 11th consecutive year in 2013, they want to get under the $189 million tax threshold in 2014.


 

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"We've actually increased our payroll this year," Yankees president Randy Levine said. "As sometimes happens, certain people like to ignore the facts instead of the reality. These are the same people who one day criticize us for spending too much money, the next day criticize us for spending too little. The goal of the team every year is to do what's necessary to field a championship team. That goes for this year and, as Hal Steinbrenner has said, next year and every year going forward."


 

For much of the offseason, it appeared as if the Dodgers would emerge as baseball's biggest spenders in their first full season since a group headed by Mark Walter, Stan Kasten and Magic Johnson bought the club for $2 billion from Frank McCourt.


 

Just 12th at $95 million on Opening Day last year, the Dodgers climbed to about $216 million after acquiring Josh Beckett, Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford from Boston last summer, when they also added Hanley Ramirez and Brandon League. Los Angeles then signed Zack Greinke during the offseason for $147 million. The Yankees had been the only previous team to reach $200 million.


 

"Everybody knows it's not about the money. It's about how they're going to play together," said All-Star outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, whose Colorado Rockies will have a payroll of about $75 million.


 

"They still have to go out there and know each other and be winners," he said, referring to the Dodgers. "Last year, they got three great players and they still didn't make it because they still have to go out there and get used to playing together and compete."


 

The Dodgers haven't won the World Series since 1988, and if they fall short again this year, they might spend even more. They had the biggest effect on the elite free-agent market.


 

"There's a perception that we're in on a couple dozen starting pitchers, three dozen outfielders and infielders, 17, 18 catchers," GM Ned Colletti said during the winter meetings.


 

Toronto also bulked up, jumping from $75 million at the start of last season to about $118 million after adding Jose Reyes, R.A. Dickey, Mark Buehrle and Josh Johnson in trades, and signing Melky Cabrera.


 

"You look on paper, and Toronto should be in the World Series," Red Sox manager John Farrell said. "The talent they've added is substantial."


 

Oakland showed last year that money isn't everything, winning the American League West despite the lowest payroll in the majors. The A's have gone up slightly to about $68 million.


 

"Our payroll, as in every year we have owned the A's, has been within our annual budget -- around half of our revenue," Oakland owner Lew Wolff said in an email. "We are all set to go even as we face much larger payroll teams. Actually, that makes the season even more exciting to me."


 

The Mets hardly resemble a high-revenue team anymore and are down to about $90 million -- and that includes about $17.5 million to account for the settlement with departed outfielder Jason Bay. After the Mets' owners settled a lawsuit caused by the Bernard Madoff Ponzi scheme, they promised to resume spending. But they haven't broken out the checkbook just yet, except for a new long-term deal with new team captain David Wright.


 

"I think we would anticipate being big investors where appropriate," owner Fred Wilpon said.


 

The AP's figures include salaries and prorated shares of signing bonuses and other guaranteed income for players on active rosters, disabled lists and the restricted lists, and rosters will change before teams must cut down to 25 active players. For some players, parts of deferred signing bonuses and salaries are discounted to reflect current values.


 

For the first time, the AP study presents payrolls for both active rosters and rosters following adjustments for cash transactions in trades, signing bonuses that are the responsibility of the club agreeing to the contract, option buyouts, and termination pay for released players.


 

For instance, the Astros are paying Pittsburgh $4.5 million as part of last year's trade sending Wandy Rodriguez to the Pirates. Houston's active payroll for its 25-man roster will be about $19 million, the lowest in the major leagues since the 2006 Florida Marlins at $15 million.

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Scott Boras + Randy Levne = HELL

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/sports/baseball/yankees-hitched-to-alex-rodriguez-an-aging-star-anatomy-of-a-deal-and-doubts.html?_r=0

"Rodriguez had surgery on his other hip in January, and he has not spent one day at the Yankees’ camp during spring training, instead recovering in New York. Terry Fahn, a spokesman for Rodriguez, said in an e-mail only that Rodriguez was diligently focused on his rehabilitation.

The Yankees, who have reached the postseason in 17 of the last 18 years, are in a financial bind. The team wants to trim its payroll — which is about $220 million for 2013 — to below $189 million for the 2014 season in order to qualify for millions of dollars in rebates and luxury-tax savings while still fielding a championship-caliber team. The average annual value of the remaining years on Rodriguez’s contract is $22.8 million.

One possibility is that the injury is so bad that Rodriguez is medically unable to play. At that point, an insurance policy would pay for a substantial part of the contract.

The Yankees’ insurance policy on the contract includes a four-month deductible, and after that, they are reimbursed for 33 percent of the salary in the first year. If Rodriguez is considered permanently disabled, the insurance will cover 75 percent of the remaining money after the four-month period.

Or Rodriguez might stumble along until both sides agree on a buyout, a possibility that few would have foreseen back in the fall of 2007.

“We saw him at the time as the one that’s going to be around a long time and he’s going do great things,” said Hal Steinbrenner, now the Yankees’ managing general partner. “We’re halfway through the contract. Alex is capable, if he’s healthy after the surgery. If the hips are fine, both of them, he’s capable of living up to everybody’s expectations. Will he? I don’t know. It’s up to him. There’s plenty of time to do it.” "

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How the Yankees won a championship with ARod on the team is something that will be debated for years.  When you look back at the Yankees from 1996 on it will look like this...

 

A lot of championships

 

Acquire ARod

 

Get rid of ARod

 

A lot of championships

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How the Yankees won a championship with ARod on the team is something that will be debated for years. When you look back at the Yankees from 1996 on it will look like this...

A lot of championships

Acquire ARod

Get rid of ARod

A lot of championships

They don't win in 2009 without him. That's a lot of revisionist history right there. And they'll be paying him a long time and they don't have much in the way of young players coming through any time soon, so it'll be a bit before their next title.

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They don't win in 2009 without him. That's a lot of revisionist history right there. And they'll be paying him a long time and they don't have much in the way of young players coming through any time soon, so it'll be a bit before their next title.

They don't have many guys who are ready RIGHT NOW which is going to hurt them in 2013 but they have about 5 guys who are top prospects at the A+ and AA level who will be big contributors in 2014-15. 

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They don't have many guys who are ready RIGHT NOW which is going to hurt them in 2013 but they have about 5 guys who are top prospects at the A+ and AA level who will be big contributors in 2014-15.

I've heard that before. Who is the last really good player the Yankees developed themselves? Cano? Quite a gap between then and now.

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I've heard that before. Who is the last really good player the Yankees developed themselves? Cano? Quite a gap between then and now.

Prospects you develop and trade for other good players count too... I'm also not sure why "team picks at the end of the 1st round every year, team doesn't have a much of Mike Trout's or Buster Posey's laying around" is a shock to anyone. 

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Prospects you develop and trade for other good players count too... I'm also not sure why "team picks at the end of the 1st round every year, team doesn't have a much of Mike Trout's or Buster Posey's laying around" is a shock to anyone. 

 

Fair enough.

 

Although it has not paid off yet, trading Montero for Pineda will likely be a good deal in the long run.  However, trading Jackson for JAG in Granderson is another thing altogether.

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Fair enough.

Although it has not paid off yet, trading Montero for Pineda will likely be a good deal in the long run. However, trading Jackson for JAG in Granderson is another thing altogether.

You really hate Granderson don't you lol. You've been banging that drum for years. Do you know how many CF's there are in baseball who hit 40 homers every year?... Granderson isn't Bernie Williams but he's a good player.
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You really hate Granderson don't you lol. You've been banging that drum for years. Do you know how many CF's there are in baseball who hit 40 homers every year?... Granderson isn't Bernie Williams but he's a good player.

And by every year do you mean just the last two seasons (out of his 7 full seasons)?

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CrazyCarl40, on 01 Apr 2013 - 11:13, said:

And by every year do you mean just the last two seasons (out of his 7 full seasons)?

The point is that he has elite power which, by definition makes him not a JAG. How many players in baseball have 98 homers in the last 3 years in a period where power is at a premium. I'll wait...
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You really hate Granderson don't you lol. You've been banging that drum for years. Do you know how many CF's there are in baseball who hit 40 homers every year?... Granderson isn't Bernie Williams but he's a good player.

 

As far to the right or left I go with Granderson, Yankee Nation goes that far in the opposite direction and makes Granderson out to be the second coming of Willie Mays. 

 

He is a slightly better hitting Dave Kingman.  He can hit for power and that is about it.

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As far to the right or left I go with Granderson, Yankee Nation goes that far in the opposite direction and makes Granderson out to be the second coming of Willie Mays. 

 

He is a slightly better hitting Dave Kingman.  He can hit for power and that is about it.

This is just foolishness that you're spouting because you got called out on the other foolishness you're talking about him.
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This is just foolishness that you're spouting because you got called out on the other foolishness you're talking about him.

 

Where was I wrong.

 

He is a mediocre hitter with power.  He is 5 years removed from his only decent seasons.

 

He is JAG.

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Where was I wrong.

 

He is a mediocre hitter with power.  He is 5 years removed from his only decent seasons.

 

He is JAG.

Stop being thick. If you can't bring yourself to admit that a guy who led the league in Runs and RBI's while stealing 25 bases and hitting 41 homers with a 916 OPS had a good season you don't really have an opinion that anyone should take seriously. 

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Stop being thick. If you can't bring yourself to admit that a guy who led the league in Runs and RBI's while stealing 25 bases and hitting 41 homers with a 916 OPS had a good season you don't really have an opinion that anyone should take seriously. 

 

He stole a whole 25 bases?  In one season?  HofFer!!!  :hand:

 

Here are some numbers for you.  .262 average.  Mediocre.   169 Ks. 

 

His power inflates his OPS.  If you want to see what a good hitter can do, go check out Bautista's numbers from that season.  His OPS crushes Granderson's.  Again, he has power and for a team that (overly) relies on it, he has benefits.

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PFSIKH, on 03 Apr 2013 - 13:34, said:

He stole a whole 25 bases? In one season? HofFer!!! :hand:

Here are some numbers for you. .262 average. Mediocre. 169 Ks.

His power inflates his OPS. If you want to see what a good hitter can do, go check out Bautista's numbers from that season. His OPS crushes Granderson's. Again, he has power and for a team that (overly) relies on it, he has benefits.

Batting average and K's? Really? Still with this? Power inflates OPS? Really? Thanks for telling me. Thats like saying hitting homers inflates your HR totals or that getting hits inflates your batting average.

So the argument is that Jose Bautaisa, who was probably the best hitter in the game that season was better therefore Granderson sucks? You're grasping at straws even more than you were before now.

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Batting average and K's? Really? Still with this? Power inflates OPS? Really? Thanks for telling me. Thats like saying hitting homers inflates your HR totals or that getting hits inflates your batting average.

So the argument is that Jose Bautaisa, who was probably the best hitter in the game that season was better therefore Granderson sucks? You're grasping at straws even more than you were before now.

 

As usual you miss the forest for the trees.  Look at Bautista's OPS when he actuallu had a decent average.  1.056.  Miggy Dabrera 1.033.  Granderson's .916 was lower than Jacoby's.  :rl:

 

So you are saying you are ok with a .247 BA - .337 OBP - .506 SLG - .843 OPS more Ks (480) then hits (406)?  Really?  You know you are full of $hit. His only redeemable is his power.

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As usual you miss the forest for the trees.  Look at Bautista's OPS when he actuallu had a decent average.  1.056.  Miggy Dabrera 1.033.  Granderson's .916 was lower than Jacoby's.  :rl:

 

So you are saying you are ok with a .247 BA - .337 OBP - .506 SLG - .843 OPS more Ks (480) then hits (406)?  Really?  You know you are full of $hit. His only redeemable is his power.

So your argument is that because his OPS wasn't over 1, which is like a hall of fame season, he sucks and is a JAG? Anything over a 900 OPS is great. A 337/506/843 slash line while playing a decent CF over three years is very good. Do you know what the average CF hits like? Would he be a better player if he had a higher OBP and K'd less? Sure. he's not Willie Mays. But the idea that he sucks is just moronic and not factual. 

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So your argument is that because his OPS wasn't over 1, which is like a hall of fame season, he sucks and is a JAG? Anything over a 900 OPS is great. A 337/506/843 slash line while playing a decent CF over three years is very good. Do you know what the average CF hits like? Would he be a better player if he had a higher OBP and K'd less? Sure. he's not Willie Mays. But the idea that he sucks is just moronic and not factual.

 

And that has been my point the entire time.  Some on JN, maybe not you, make him out to be the second coming.

 

He has power.  More so than probably all other CFers, but his average sucks and he Ks way too much.   I did not say he sucks, but he is not great.

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And that has been my point the entire time.  Some on JN, maybe not you, make him out to be the second coming.

 

He has power.  More so than probably all other CFers, but his average sucks and he Ks way too much.   I did not say he sucks, but he is not great.

Willie Mays is a top 10 player in baseball history. There is no way anyone said he was of that caliber so you're attacking a straw man. You keep saying he's mediocre, he's not and a JAG which means the same thing and he's not that either. You're setting up a straw man and then attacking it. 

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And that has been my point the entire time.  Some on JN, maybe not you, make him out to be the second coming.

 

He has power.  More so than probably all other CFers, but his average sucks and he Ks way too much.   I did not say he sucks, but he is not great.

 

Pants

 

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