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This is one of the strangest Yankee rosters that I can remember.  Is the plan to not reduce payroll until all these current contracts (AROD etc) come off the books?

 

Every report I have heard/read says they want to get below the luxury tax which is about 189 million.  They're currently over 230 I think. Rivera is done after this season. Pettite and Jeter not too far behind. A-Rod is the real albatross.

 

Interesting to see what will happen with Cano.

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I can not see how the Yankees will not resign Cano- he is the one guy that is younger in the lineup to build on. So he had a terrible post season- without his performance last year the Yankees would have not made it to the post season

Surprisingly enough it may come down to money. Didn't he just sign with Jay-Z?

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He roots for the Penguins, Red Sox, Notre Dame, and Jets, because growing up, he had a bootleg hockey video game, his favorite color was green, and he loved Jose Canseco.

How can you take him seriously enough to even respond?

I'm flattered you're so knowledgable about my fandom. Let me know when you're elected king supreme over sports fandom. Otherwise, take a slice of humble pie and get over yourself.

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So in bootleg hockey '91, were the North Stars purple, and the Whalers orange? :hand:

So you're going to question and criticize the fandom of an 8 year old? That's awesome of you. I bet you're a hit at the circle jerks you attend.

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I question whether it was the game or your TV that was bootleg, and I thought you would be 12 by now.

Yawn. Your diatribe and posts are tired and played out.

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I'd say both have been pretty disappointing as major leaguers at this point. Hughes was better last year, Buchholz is off to a better start this year. Neither of them are aces. They are both FA's so we'll see what they get at the end of the year. 

 

Buchholz - Career 3.80 ERA

Hughes - Career 4.46 ERA

 

Come on. It's not even close.  Hughes had one solid season and it was as a reliever.

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Nice cherry picking of one stat lol. I'm not saying Hughes has been what he should've been but neither has Buchholz and if you can make excuses for Buchholz' bad years with injuries you can do the same for Hughes.

That's one of the key stats for any pitcher at any time throughout the history of baseball. I'm not cherry picking something ridiculous and random. I picked the major stat of which most people judge pitchers by. Let's not forget that his ERA is even higher when you consider him as just a starter.

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Congratulations on your #2 starter having a lower ERA than the Yankees #5 starter. I guess?

They both came up at the same time. The point is is that if Hughes was good he wouldn't be a fifth starter and the Yankees wouldn't be hoping and praying that Pettite and Kuroda don't fall apart. You're missing the point, then again, you're just a potato.

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That's your point? That if Phil Hughes were better, he would be better? Or that all guys that come up at the same time are supposed to be equal? How astute.

They are what they are. Hughes is counted on only to be a 5/6 starter at this point. Nothing else. This comparison is beyond stupid.

Or you can stick with your bizarre logic. John Lackey and CC Sabathia came up to the majors around the same time, too. You know what? If John Lackey was as good as CC Sabathia, he wouldn't suck!

You're so dense. Hughes and Buchholz were compared because they came up around the same time, not by me but by proud Yankees fans crowing and beating their chests. A few year later now and Phil Hughes isn't the second coming and he's actually bordering awful. So, yeah, why don't you go back and take a look at threads in the archives and get some facts straight.

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You brought it up. No one else did. If you want to prove that happened however many years ago, that's on you.

While you're at it, why don't you see if you can find all the "Garciaparra is better than Jeter" posts. Since that's exactly the same thing, only real, and meaningful.

Not sure this board existed when Nomar was playing. Nomar was a good player for a number of years and injuries robbed him of what might have been. The only thing Nomar was better at was hitting for power. Jeter was the better defender, stole way more bases, etc. jeter's best season was better than Nomar's as far as WAR is concerned. I don't think you'd get much of an argument on who was the better player. The better hitter is much closer.

I did bring it up and you responded so you ought to be ready to defend your position.

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I don't really have a position to defend, other than the fact that this is a stupid comparison. In fact, I even congratulated you on your little self-created argument with yourself.

If you want to boast about a #2 starter having a better ERA than a #5 starter, have at it. But it's really no different than a "Hey guys, I just drank pee! But at least it wasn't poo!"

They were both considered top of the rotation guys coming up. What are you failing to understand about that fact?

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Newsflash: no one cares what guys were once "considered" many years ago. What matters is what they ARE. Hence the Garciaparra-Jeter comment, which you also completely botched.

Fact remains that you created a fictional argument to try to boast about something completely unimpressive. The positive for you here is when you argue with yourself, you always win. But do yourself a favor: the next time you want to draw comparisons, do it with comparable players. Cleanup hitter vs. cleanup hitter. 2nd baseman vs. 2nd baseman. Closer vs. closer. Not #2 vs. #5 starter. It sounds ridiculous, and it doesn't make anyone envy the laptop thief.

LOL at you. Seriously. You inject yourself in a conversation that you admittedly knew nothing about and didn't care about and are now trying to swing the argument to your vantage point which in this context is wrong. I can compare two guys who were supposed to be top of the rotation guys on rival teams that came up about the same time. That makes perfect sense to anyone with half a brain. You also bring up laptops like that adds anything to the argument at all.

I guess we shouldn't compare the careers of Ken O'Brien and Dan Marino because of what they turned out to be. That logic is so flawed and idiotic.

I suppose at this point you should just politely excuse yourself from this conversation.

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Just because two comparable players turn out vastly different at different points in their career doesnt mean you stop comparing them. That's asinine and is just trying to serve your backwards logic. You can compare two things at any time you want to. People still compare how the careers of Manning and Leaf turned out every time Leaf is arrested. I guess ESPN and everyone else who writes and reports like that is flawed. When two players get traded for one another, people always go back and see how things turned out and they compare their careers. The fact that Hughes is a number 5 starter and Buchholz is a 2/3 starter now, just is a tool for comparison sake.

I'm done. You're missing the point entirely. This is what I get for arguing with a potato.

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Guys. We can't compare Harper and Trout either. JetPotato says so! Drafted different years, different leagues, different sized wieners, different haircuts, one has a hot mom, on doesn't, different astrological signs!!!

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If it was discussed here ad nauseum, that doesn't make it any less of a stupid comparison.

But like I said, congrats to RSN for having a #2 starter with an ERA better than a #5, even though the gap isn't as big as thought by some.

The gap is a full run and widening. Just give it up already. You look bad in this.

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