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Sources: Buccaneers growing impatient with situation between Jets, Darrelle Revis

By Jason Cole | Yahoo! Sports – 1 hour 59 minutes ago

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--sources--buccaneers-growing-impatient-with-situation-between-jets--darrelle-revis-031020672.html

The seemingly pending divorce between the New York Jets and cornerback Darrelle Revis has gotten a little uglier and, perhaps worse for the team, a little more questionable.

Revis' agents, Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod, recently asked new Jets general manager John Idzik if the cornerback could be excused from the first two weeks of the team's offseason conditioning program. The two-week period starts April 15 and ends after the NFL draft, by which time Revis had been expected to be traded.

However, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, long regarded as the team most likely to trade for Revis, are apparently growing impatient with the process, three sources said.

Revis wanted to avoid the awkward possibility of being hounded by the New York media and having to show up to work for a team that doesn't appear to want him long-term.

However, the star cornerback needs to be at the team's offseason program in order to collect $3 million in scheduled bonuses. That's half of the $6 million that Revis is scheduled to earn this year.

Revis would prefer to rehabilitate his injured knee with his personal trainer in Arizona until he knows if he'll be on the team after the draft.

The way things are going, that may be a reality. While Jets owner Woody Johnson has said he is open to trading Revis or any player to help improve the team, interest in Revis has been limited to Tampa Bay as a serious bidder.

The Buccaneers are not only willing to trade a combination of a first-, third- and sixth-round picks for Revis, they are also willing to pay the corner in the area of $15-16 million per year on a long-term contract.

Idzik, who did not return a text message sent to him by Yahoo! Sports, has been coy about trading Revis. He has repeatedly said he is not "actively" trying to trade Revis, though multiple teams have said he is willing to listen to offers.

At this point, the Bucs or any other team interested in having Revis long-term may simply wait until he becomes a free agent in the offseason rather than trade for him. If that happens, the best return the Jets might get for Revis is a conditional third-round pick. The team could wait until October to trade him, but would have to pay Revis the $3 million bonus and part of his $3 million base salary.

The Jets would also likely get much less than three picks for Revis the longer they wait.

That's not to mention taking the risk that Revis either doesn't play well in his return from a knee injury or gets hurt along the way. In that case, the Jets would be on the hook for the entire $6 million Revis is owed this season and still lose him in free agency.

Revis can opt out of the final two years of his contract after this season. In addition, the Jets are prohibited from putting the franchise tag on him after that.

Additionally, the Jets have expressed disappointment with Revis that he did not use a doctor from Atlantic Health when he had surgery to repair the anterior cruciate ligament of his knee last season. Atlantic Health is a team sponsor and has its name on the team's training facility in Florham Park, N.J.

Revis had the surgery done by orthopedic specialist Dr. Russ Warren of the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York. Warren is considered one of the top doctors in the country by athletes and is also a team doctor for the New York Giants. A source said the Jets questioned Revis on three occasions about his decision to use Warren and indicated that Atlantic Health was unhappy with the situation.

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The juicy bits:

--Schwartz and Feinsod asking that Revis not be forced to attend minicamp to avoid the inevitable media porkfest, and getting denied.

--$15 mil per??? Eat a diiiiiiiiiiiiick.

--doesn't state if the first is this year or next. If its this year, take it and run.

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Gotta give Idzik props here. The 2nd and conditional 4th has been upgraded to a  1st and 3rd and 6th. Not sure if this is all this draft. Still better but not quite there. I think if Idzik waits as the draft gets closer if he walks away with more.

 

All these reports show how desperate Revis's agents are getting!

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The juicy bits:

--Schwartz and Feinsod asking that Revis not be forced to attend minicamp to avoid the inevitable media porkfest, and getting denied.

--$15 mil per??? Eat a diiiiiiiiiiiiick.

--doesn't state if the first is this year or next. If its this year, take it and run.

 

I imagine it must not be, otherwise I'm sure this deal would be done by now.  That said, I would still take the offer and run with it.  The Jets can't really consider giving Revis that amount of money and if they're not going to extend him, you don't pass on that kind of offer.

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I imagine it must not be, otherwise I'm sure this deal would be done by now.  That said, I would still take the offer and run with it.  The Jets can't really consider giving Revis that amount of money and if they're not going to extend him, you don't pass on that kind of offer.

 

But this article essentially similar to what Peter King was spouting off in his article earlier this week except the 15-16 million figure.

 

This may just be the sources (Revis's agent) getting desperate and adding more biased information as time goes along to make an argument that the JETS are making a mistake by passing up on the trade offer on the table. Even if true that it is a 15-16 million dollar deal we do not know how it is structured. And many a times the devil lies in the details.

 

So it may not be a bad idea for Idzik to wait to see what more he can get for Revis. And as the draft day closer most probably he gets a better deal.

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Here's what I don't get.

How have the Bucs and Revis agreed on a price, and this deal is not done?

I don't see how the Jets let the Bucs speak to Revis about a contract if the terms of a trade are not solidified and agrees to.

And, if terms are worked out, and contract is worked out, why is this not done?

Something is off here.

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Buccaneerss: 1.Gerald McCoy highest average salary $12.7 million per-year, #3 pick under old CBA.. All free agents sigings here: 2. Vincent Jackson $11.1 million average per-year, 3. Carl Nicks $9.5 million average per-yer , 4. Dashon Goldson $8.2 million average per-year; Darrelle Revis $16 million averager per-year??  Besides what does thaat mean?  What if the contract has $50 million non-guaranteed in the last year making the contract that average?

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If this is true Idzik needs to do this immediately

 

If he takes too long and the deal falls through he'll irrepairably damage his reputation with NY fans.  He'll be forever known as the guy who let Revis go for nothing when he could have gotten 3 picks.

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If this reliable you have to make this deal- even if 2014 first round choice

That was my initial reaction as well, but the more I considered it, the less appealing the offer became.  Basically, the Jets will recoup a third round compensatory pick if they let Revis walk in the offseason.  So the trade, on the Jets end, becomes Revis for a one and a six next year.  So if Tampa becomes more competitive this season following several key aquisitions, even the one won't likely be a top 20 pick.  The six is basically a throwaway.  So, is the deal for league's best defensive player really that attractive? Meh.  I think Idzik can afford to sit on it a while, and let the Bucs squirm. 

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That was my initial reaction as well, but the more I considered it, the less appealing the offer became.  Basically, the Jets will recoup a third round compensatory pick if they let Revis walk in the offseason.  So the trade, on the Jets end, becomes Revis for a one and a six next year.  So if Tampa becomes more competitive this season following several key aquisitions, even the one won't likely be a top 20 pick.  The six is basically a throwaway.  So, is the deal for league's best defensive player really that attractive? Meh.  I think Idzik can afford to sit on it a while, and let the Bucs squirm. 

 

My understanding is that there is no guarantee the Jets are getting a 3rd by letting him walk.

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If this is true Idzik needs to do this immediately

 

If he takes too long and the deal falls through he'll irrepairably damage his reputation with NY fans.  He'll be forever known as the guy who let Revis go for nothing when he could have gotten 3 picks.

 

The fans will figure out a reason to hate him anyhow.  One of the things I like about the guy so far is he seems to be treating it like a job with a goal and not a popularity contest.  But he will be judged on his moves and anything short of a title we will hate him eventually. 

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No, no guarantee.  But its the accepted assumption and there is really no reason to doubt it.  Its a standard compensation for a player of Revis' caliber.

Unless the Jets sign a high dollar FA next season, and they will have quite a bit of money available 

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If this reliable you have to make this deal- even if 2014 first round choice

  

I disagree. I think he has to get something this year, and that something should be nothing less than a second round pick. I like the fact that Idzik has seemed to be holding out (so to speak) for the 13th pick this year. If this is true, and these are picks in this year's draft, then they should just pull the trigger, already.

Trading Revis this year for three picks next year would give a lot of credence to Rex being a dead man walking, though.

My understanding is that there is no guarantee the Jets are getting a 3rd by letting him walk.

Given the contract that Revis would get, the Jets would pretty much control whether they got a comp pick or not. They'd simply have to make sure they signed one less free agent than they lost next year. The problem with that is that the Jets will have some cap room next year, and might want to bring a lot of players in as a result. Would they reduce the number of free agents they were willing to sign for the 100th-ish pick in the 2015 draft?

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Some times you just have to say enough is enough- in  a ideal world you get everything you want- we do not live in an ideal world- take the three choices if that is the best we can get

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Funny thing is, we don’t have a clue what is actually going on here.  I doubt the media does either.

 

  As with the Eagles, and the Aso thing several years ago, for all we know there might be another team involved, and the Bucs are being manipulated the way the Jets were in the Aso signing.

 

Somebody needs to get in touch with Toon so we can get the truth from Charlie Burke.   

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the problem with 2014 draft picks is the Jets are losing their best player in 2013. And there will be 8 home games, despite all the "season is already over" gloom and doom. If they don't get a high pick this year, screw em. He's a 27 y.o 3x All Pro for christs sake. 

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the problem with 2014 draft picks is the Jets are losing their best player in 2013. And there will be 8 home games, despite all the "season is already over" gloom and doom. If they don't get a high pick this year, screw em. He's a 27 y.o 3x All Pro for christs sake. 

I think you might have mentioned that before.

 

Your right about the fact that the Jets are taking a major gamble that there might be a lot of empty seats in 2013.  They seem to be willing to take that business risk.

 

From the appearances of things, it seems that  Woody, and Idzik have decided not to pay Revis.  I suspect that even the 12 million isn’t on the table anymore.  This was decided before Idzik was hired.  Of course I don’t know that, but it sure looks like it by their behavior.  

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