slats Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The bucs made out like bandits. A 1st in a terrible draft and a conditional 3rd. heh The real winner is Revis. Revis was always going to be the real winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It's a 1 and a 3. They needed at least 3 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Idzik had three choices.... - Pay a CB coming off a serious injury $16 million. - Get a 3rd Ed comp pick - Negotiate a trade He took the option I like best. Best of a bad situation. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Expected at least another pick 2nd-3rd this year. We got screwed again. You expected higher than the top offer then. Not one NFL team was willing to offer jack squat except Tampa Bay. You don't just have to find people willing to give up in excess of those draft picks. You have to also find someone willing to pay Revis $16M/year as well. Only 1 team, Tampa Bay, was willing to do that. It's not like it was some secret that we were looking to trade Revis. Anyone could have come in with a better offer yet no one did. Unfortunately, this is the trade value that Revis carries because of his gargantuan salary demands. Other teams who let go of premiere players ended up with nothing because they could not accept this. See what Houston got for Mario Williams and what Carolina got for Julius Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 This is horrible if true. Just two picks and one of them is next year. Just awful! Just effing awful!! For that kindda picks we should not have traded. Revis signed a trade with no guaranteed money that's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangisGreen Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It amazes me how clueless some of you are. Getting a 1st rd and a conditional 3rd is better than nothing which is exactly what we would have gotten after the season if Idzik did not trade him. Idzik had no choice especially with the fracture in the revis/jets relationship and also the fact that there were no other teams interested. it sucks that Revis is gone, but have to look ahead. I for one will not bash Idzik until we see what he does with the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The more I think about it, too, the more I expect the Jets to trade back from #13 rather than #9. Makes it more difficult to trace years down the road what the Jets actually got out of the Revis trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter1m Trade official: Darrelle Revis passed physical. Bucs send 1st in 2013 and conditional 4th in 2014 that could be 3rd to Jets. More on ESPNews @AdamSchefter: Revis received 6-yr deal that makes him highest paid DB in NFL history but includes NO guaranteed $$. None. HAHAHAHAHAHA Is this all true? Only 2 picks, 1 in this draft and Revis didnt even get guaranteed money? Come'on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 @nyjets: 4th-rd pick next year becomes 3rd-rnder if Revis on roster 3rd day of 2014 league year. .. so it's basically a 3 unless Revis blows out his knee again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Idzik had three choices.... - Pay a CB coming off a serious injury $16 million. - Get a 3rd Ed comp pick - Negotiate a trade He took the option I like best. Best of a bad situation. Move on. There was another option. Make him play his contract out and possibly sign him next season. I was all for trading Revis but that was with the caveat we get a lot of picks. Making this move with such minimal compensation was STUPID! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 There will be many Revis jerseys going in the fire tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Horrible trade for the Jets I expected at least a this years 1st rounder and next year's 3rd and 5th rounders or even this year's 1st rounder and a conditional 1st rounder in 2014 but this deal is reportedly for this year's 1st and next years conditional 4th rounder HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE You would have done what? Kept him and gotten nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 That's a Deion Sanders mercenary contract. There's obviously no way he sees Year Three of a deal as fat as that, so it gives both the team and player flexibility to walk away from it. Revis likely gets to be a FA at 29, which he'll want is Tampa falls off. Meanwhile, Tampa gets to make a run at a title for two (or three) years. Win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 This is horrible if true. Just two picks and one of them is next year. Just awful! Just effing awful!! For that kindda picks we should not have traded. Revis signed a trade with no guaranteed money that's unbelievable. So you'd rather have Revis for 1 year, when we have no shot at the Super Bowl, and take the 3rd round compensatory pick? Quit whining, we all knew we weren't going to be winners in all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 @nyjets: 4th-rd pick next year becomes 3rd-rnder if Revis on roster 3rd day of 2014 league year. .. so it's basically a 3 unless Revis blows out his knee again. In value terms of this years draft what the JETS got was a conditional 5th which becomes a 4th! Pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I would love to hear what some of the cry-babies here would have liked the Jets to have done. Paid him the $16 million / year that all of his staunchest defenders baselessly claimed wasn't true, and were proven completely wrong about? Or simply turn down the Bucs offer because it "wasn't enough" for a guy coming off a knee injury that nobody else wanted, and let him walk for nothing in a year? I would have loved more out of trade, and was hoping for it, but the Jets got the #13 pick in a draft for an injured player, ready to walk in a year with insane contract demands and 4 years removed from his peak. And this is supposed to be such a horrible deal for the Jets how exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It amazes me how clueless some of you are. Getting a 1st rd and a conditional 3rd is better than nothing which is exactly what we would have gotten after the season if Idzik did not trade him. Idzik had no choice especially with the fracture in the revis/jets relationship and also the fact that there were no other teams interested. it sucks that Revis is gone, but have to look ahead. I for one will not bash Idzik until we see what he does with the picks. I think we should be going as far to say - Thank the fu$king lord the Bucs outbid themselves and we were able to secure this much. CB - Coming off major surgery - Costs $16M per year - No other teams seriously interested......and we landed the 13th pick overall + a mid rounder next year. We were lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 So you'd rather have Revis for 1 year, when we have no shot at the Super Bowl, and take the 3rd round compensatory pick? Quit whining, we all knew we weren't going to be winners in all of this. Eff you too! Yes you can make a HOF CB play for one year at 6.5 mill and then when you have cap space see what you can do. This deal is putrid. You are just resigned into accepting bad deals by years of Tanny goof ups. So its just another bend over move that goes down well with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 In value terms of this years draft what the JETS got was a conditional 5th which becomes a 4th! Pathetic! The Jets were neverrrrrrrrrrrr going to give Revis $16m per. It's absurd money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I would love to hear what some of the cry-babies here would have liked the Jets to have done. Paid him the $16 million / year that all of his staunchest defenders baselessly claimed wasn't true, and were proven completely wrong about? Or simply turn down the Bucs offer because it "wasn't enough" for a guy coming off a knee injury that nobody else wanted, and let him walk for nothing in a year? I would have loved more out of trade, and was hoping for it, but the Jets got the #13 pick in a draft for an injured player, ready to walk in a year with insane contract demands and 4 years removed from his peak. And this is supposed to be such a horrible deal for the Jets how exactly? If he signed for $12 mil per, we'd have the right to complain about the compensation. But at $16m per, that's GTFO money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 $16M/year for one CB. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The Jets were neverrrrrrrrrrrr going to give Revis $16m per. It's absurd money. Yeah but this is all they could get. They could have waited even after the draft or start of training camp or trading deadline. Because if Revis shut down one good WR there would have been more interest and better compensation. I understand at the end there is possibility of not getting anything but thats what one has to be willing to accept if they want to get the best deal. The JETS are getting the short straw in this deal. There is no denying that. I guess the "No, not again we got screwed" part of it upsets me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsJETStime Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 You would have done what? Kept him and gotten nothing? NO, I would have waited for the season to begin in which case it gives Revis a chance to be back to his oldself. All teams will see that and will become a lot more interested. Then you look to trade him before the Trade deadline and have an out bidding war for him. That strategy would have def netted 2 1st rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Prepare for mediocre football in 2013. The price we all pay for psls,tickets,parking and concessions wont be worth it in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Eff you too! Yes you can make a HOF CB play for one year at 6.5 mill and then when you have cap space see what you can do. This deal is putrid. You are just resigned into accepting bad deals by years of Tanny goof ups. So its just another bend over move that goes down well with you! And then you lose him next year because in free agency, when teams wouldn't have to give up the 13th pick in the draft, plus, there's no way the Jets would be able to -or want to- keep up with bidding that reached $16M/year or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 hey as fans you always want the team Tampa to give us everything like 4 draft choices- you deal with reality. The Jets were not and should not pay a CB that amount of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I just need to stop buying jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 If he signed for $12 mil per, we'd have the right to complain about the compensation. But at $16m per, that's GTFO money. Exactly, which is the exact reason Gato and bit spent the better part of the past two months endlessly claiming that the $16 million / year number was a complete fabrication, because even they couldn't defend the Jets giving him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 So if the Jets made this offer to Revis, he would have hit the Jets' cap $19M/year. Sources with knowledge of the situation wonder where I have heard this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Prepare for mediocre football in 2013. The price we all pay for psls,tickets,parking and concessions wont be worth it in 2013. Hope it's a lot worse than mediocre. There is no reason to go 6-10. Tank it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I just need to stop buying jerseys. Same here. I just bought a framed 16x20 Revis signed pic. Its hanging in my mancave. I feel like smashing it in a million pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 To me this looks like a one year deal in which the Bucs and Revis go back to the table next year should Revis show up and play well. I wouldn't be surprised if Revis is cut and then immediately resigned to avoid the 3rd round pick either... But, that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yeah but this is all they could get. They could have waited even after the draft or start of training camp or trading deadline. Because if Revis shut down one good WR there would have been more interest and better compensation. I understand at the end there is possibility of not getting anything but thats what one has to be willing to accept if they want to get the best deal. The JETS are getting the short straw in this deal. There is no denying that. I guess the "No, not again we got screwed" part of it upsets me. No team goes into a season with a free $16 mil lying around to trade for a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 And then you lose him next year because in free agency, when teams wouldn't have to give up the 13th pick in the draft, plus, there's no way the Jets would be able to -or want to- keep up with bidding that reached $16M/year or more. I am bummed at this point. Gotta get a drink. And i do not drink during the day. My point was: They could have waited even after the draft or start of training camp or trading deadline. Because if Revis shut down one good WR there would have been more interest and better compensation. I understand at the end there is possibility of not getting anything but thats what one has to be willing to accept if they want to get the best deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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