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Foolishly or not, I think Revis just simply believes that strongly in himself. That he'll play to the $16M level for a long time and Tampa will pay him. Or they'll cut him and someone else will pay him at that level. 

 

While there are technically no guarantees in the deal, it's hard to imagine Revis not collecting a minimum of $32M over the next two years, and $48M over three is likely. If Tampa cuts him then, he'll be a free agent at 30. Not a bad situation for Mr. Revis. 

 

 

But here is the problem with that line of thinking from Revis and his agents. While going for the biggest bucks on every deal is great, it hurts his overall marketability and his potential post career earnings. It also damages his legacy to be seen as a guy who was only out for himself and to make as much money as possible.

 

The shot Revis' agent took at the Jets is laughable. He said that the Jets aren't committed to winning which as we all know is complete nonsense. All teams are committed to winning. The only person who doesn't appear committed to winning here is Revis. He only appears to be committed to the size of his paycheck. 

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Blah blah blah the Jets can absolutely re-sign Revis for $12M/year blah blah blah. Revis isn't really asking for $15-16M blah blah blah, that's a number that hasn't floated around since 2-3 years ago blah blah blah. Sources say blah blah blah but no one ever heard blah blah blah directly from Revis blah blah blah so Revis wouldn't and couldn't have hit our cap at $19M/year blah blah blah. Manish Mehta's sources says $12-13M blah blah blah the other sources are sources that don't have real sources blah blah blah. They don't know what Revis really wants blah blah blah. Since I wanted Revis back for $12M, it was therefore possible for that to get done blah blah blah. No one else thinks he's an impact player blah blah blah. Woody's a cheapskate blah blah blah, and that's why the Jets never sign anyone to huge money blah blah blah.

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Sure it is. If they werr more up front and correct more than once every blue moon i might have avoided saying thar. Still a fag move by a fag.franchise that so desperately wants to be just like its big brothers.

It's 2013, enough with the "fag" comments

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But here is the problem with that line of thinking from Revis and his agents. While going for the biggest bucks on every deal is great, it hurts his overall marketability and his potential post career earnings. It also damages his legacy to be seen as a guy who was only out for himself and to make as much money as possible.

 

The shot Revis' agent took at the Jets is laughable. He said that the Jets aren't committed to winning which as we all know is complete nonsense. All teams are committed to winning. The only person who doesn't appear committed to winning here is Revis. He only appears to be committed to the size of his paycheck. 

 

Boom!

 

Winning is secondary for Revis.  The Jets had the best shot this franchise has had in a long long time at a SB and who wasnt in camp working with his team to attain that goal?  Mevis.  Why?  Because he wanted 1 dollar more than the other guy playing his position and wasnt going to accept anything less.  Talks were, he was willing to sit out the entire year....the same year the Jets were AFC favorite by tons of people.

 

Thats a player not committed to winning.  

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what does that contract mean in real terms? He's back on the market in a season? 

that is what I was wondering.  either he holds out next year, or the team fails, dumps their QB and Revis, and goes their merry way, 16 million and one draft pick the wiser.  I know it is a lot of money, but it is burning a hole in their pocket this year.

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Playing for no guarantees on a bum knee at 28 years old is seriously rolling the dice on Revis' part. 

This - I could understand if Revis was fully healthy coming off of a All pro season but no ones how that knee is - period.

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sperm is right, ,Team revis Money demands made this almost a impossible deal for Jets to pull off.. Thank goodness there was one idiotic team in NFL to be trading partners

 

Light a candle at your local church and give thanks for the Tampa Bay Bucs

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But here is the problem with that line of thinking from Revis and his agents. While going for the biggest bucks on every deal is great, it hurts his overall marketability and his potential post career earnings. It also damages his legacy to be seen as a guy who was only out for himself and to make as much money as possible.

I thought that already was his legacy?

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lol

 

No matter what criticism the Jets are getting, and how awesome everyone agrees Revis is, all-pro this and HOF that, there are 31 NFL teams that are privately saying, "$16M/year, every year, for one CB? And he's coming off an ACL tear? That's the dumbest f*cking thing ever."

$0 guaranteed.

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I think Revis took the deal because it is a $10M raise this year.  He is gambling on himself and still earning an extra $10M.  If the Bucs cut him he can go play for whatever team he thinks is the best and win a ring and then everybody will say "he is all about winning" or whatever crock of sh*t that they spit about that nowadays.

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$0 guaranteed.

 

$16M guaranteed. The Bucs didn't trade the #13 overall to the Jets to cut Revis before this season. 

 

Almost certainly $32M guaranteed, because even if Revis is a little sluggish coming off the ACL, they'll give him another year to prove himself. 

 

Probably $48M guaranteed, if Revis is even close to the player he once was. And if he's not, the Jets just made an outstanding trade. 

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I'd say it's a safe bet that, if Revis performs at a high level, he and the Bucs are back at the bargaining table within one, two seasons tops.  While the overall value of the deal might not change, there would be incentive for both sides to want this deal redone.  I'm sure at some point if Revis is going to stick around, the Bucs will want to be moving some money around to free themselves up for other contracts while at the same time, Revis will no doubt want some guarantees once he's proved himself healthy.  Don't think for a second that Revis won't hold out, or at least threaten it, in order to get his contract reworked, even if it's not to get the dollar amounts changed.

 

Keep in mind, barring a significant enough injury that would have kept him from voiding out the last 3 years of his Jets' deal if he were still here (extraordinarily unlikely), there's nothing that has him coming out anything but way ahead this year.  Even if the Bucs are dumb enough to cut him after one year, he's still in the same spot he was going to be if he stayed with the Jets and voided his deal, but just $10 million richer.

 

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But here is the problem with that line of thinking from Revis and his agents. While going for the biggest bucks on every deal is great, it hurts his overall marketability and his potential post career earnings. It also damages his legacy to be seen as a guy who was only out for himself and to make as much money as possible.

 

The shot Revis' agent took at the Jets is laughable. He said that the Jets aren't committed to winning which as we all know is complete nonsense. All teams are committed to winning. The only person who doesn't appear committed to winning here is Revis. He only appears to be committed to the size of his paycheck. 

It would be so much more honest if Team Revis said they wanted the most money.

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$16M guaranteed. The Bucs didn't trade the #13 overall to the Jets to cut Revis before this season.

Almost certainly $32M guaranteed, because even if Revis is a little sluggish coming off the ACL, they'll give him another year to prove himself.

Probably $48M guaranteed, if Revis is even close to the player he once was. And if he's not, the Jets just made an outstanding trade.

Yep. And under a hundred different scenarios the least doubtful is that he returns to the ELITE #1 best defensive player status he was prior to the injury. So then you're gonna start seeing two biased perspectives start to form. The Bucs and the Revis camp. This is a year to year contract. So when he plays to anything other than elite form this year, he's still gonna expect the 16M next year regardless and the Bucs are going to have to decide what to do.

Ok, so now let's pretend he comes back AP style and returns to Elite status....well paying a CB $16M per year still isn't worth it....

 

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$0 guaranteed.

 

So what?

 

You saying they're going to cut him after this year because he's not worth $16M? In that case we made out like bandits by not being the fools who gave him that stupid deal.  That would be justification for NOT doing that deal with Revis ourselves.  Revis plays for us for 1 year $16M in 2013. We still are winners of absolutely nothing.  Then we also don't have the 2 picks from Tampa.  Then Revis is a UFA in 2014 and will shop himself around, meaning we only get him back again cheaper by outbidding all 31 other teams.

 

For Tampa to keep him, it's $16M per year every year.  Too much money, by a significant amount, for a HOF CB in his prime.

 

The guaranteed part is only in case there's a problem with his knee.  If he's healthy they're paying him $16M/year.  Ridiculous.

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I hate that you buy their sh*t as they sell it.

 

 

what dont you get? we weren't paying him 16 mil/year and rightfully so.

 

we couldnt franchise him and we were gonna lose him for a comp pick in 2015 draft....

 

this is the best cae scenario for us with the situation we were in. you love revis so much why not just become a tampa bay fan?

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So what?

You saying they're going to cut him after this year because he's not worth $16M? In that case we made out like bandits by not being the fools who gave him that stupid deal. That would be justification for NOT doing that deal with Revis ourselves. Revis plays for us for 1 year $16M in 2013. We still are winners of absolutely nothing. Then we also don't have the 2 picks from Tampa. Then Revis is a UFA in 2014 and will shop himself around, meaning we only get him back again cheaper by outbidding all 31 other teams.

For Tampa to keep him, it's $16M per year every year. Too much money, by a significant amount, for a HOF CB in his prime.

The guaranteed part is only in case there's a problem with his knee. If he's healthy they're paying him $16M/year. Ridiculous.

To say its not guaranteed is kind of. disingenuous. He is a vested veteran. If he's on the week one roster his salary becomes guaranteed. Does anyone think he won't be on the week one roster?

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AD Brandt wrote a few weeks back that agents intentionally write these contracts to make players cuttable after three years so they can go sign a fresh new deal with fresh new guarantees while the player has value. Revis' contract reeks of that. They'll let him play for two years, $32 mil, then revisit it in two years. There's just no logic in even intimating a guarantee to a 27 year old player $16m into his thirties. IMO, this is a two year, $32 mil deal with an implied option for a third. That's it. Then he becomes a FA and cashes in Deion-style when the cap expands in 2016.

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$16M guaranteed. The Bucs didn't trade the #13 overall to the Jets to cut Revis before this season. 

 

Almost certainly $32M guaranteed, because even if Revis is a little sluggish coming off the ACL, they'll give him another year to prove himself. 

 

Probably $48M guaranteed, if Revis is even close to the player he once was. And if he's not, the Jets just made an outstanding trade. 

 

Pretty much.  I do like how Dominik set it up though; he was willing to gamble two high picks on a player's knee being right, but wasn't willing to gamble two high picks and salary-cap hell.  I like it from their perspective that they can go all in for two or three years and if they at some point realize they aren't in a position to win and continue paying  a CB a ridiculous contract, they can cut bait without any consequences.  It's personally why I feel both teams win, which you can usually tell when both teams fans are all ruffled. 

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Pretty much.  I do like how Dominik set it up though; he was willing to gamble two high picks on a player's knee being right, but wasn't willing to gamble two high picks and salary-cap hell.  I like it from their perspective that they can go all in for two or three years and if they at some point realize they aren't in a position to win and continue paying  a CB a ridiculous contract, they can cut bait without any consequences.  It's personally why I feel both teams win, which you can usually tell when both teams fans are all ruffled. 

 

 They really only gambled the 13th pick.    The 3rd or 4th round pick next year isn't all that big of a gamble.  If the Bucs wind up 10-6 and win a playoff game, a 3rd round pick might almost be like a 4th round pick.    A team giving up a #1 this year is the risk, not a 3rd/4th next year.

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AD Brandt wrote a few weeks back that agents intentionally write these contracts to make players cuttable after three years so they can go sign a fresh new deal with fresh new guarantees while the player has value. Revis' contract reeks of that. They'll let him play for two years, $32 mil, then revisit it in two years. There's just no logic in even intimating a guarantee to a 27 year old player $16m into his thirties. IMO, this is a two year, $32 mil deal with an implied option for a third. That's it. Then he becomes a FA and cashes in Deion-style when the cap expands in 2016.

 

Agreed, it'll be either that or if he is really back to form this year and so the Bucs want to hold onto him for the long haul, I think there's a chance they tear up the deal and redo it next offseason to a more standard NFL contract (you know, outside of the insane amount of money it'd contain).

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