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I don't claim to be the best evaluator of talent in the world, butto watch other teams year after year knock it out of the park draft after draft it frustrates me to no end. Is this organization that inept that we can't evaluate talent and fill our needs? We missed our safety, tight end, OUTSIDE RUSHER. In previous years we drafted POORLY this is why we always draft at the top half of the draft. I wish just once we can have a draft that promotes excitement and justify the PSL price. They are better off letting jetnation take over one draft because the results couldn't be any worse. The elite teams KILLED in the draft because they did their homework. I challenge the Jets organization to do better for the benefit of the team and its fans PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put your best foot forward in these endeavors for this franchise has been through alot.

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I don't claim to be the best evaluator of talent in the world, butto watch other teams year after year knock it out of the park draft after draft it frustrates me to no end. Is this organization that inept that we can't evaluate talent and fill our needs? We missed our safety, tight end, OUTSIDE RUSHER. In previous years we drafted POORLY this is why we always draft at the top half of the draft. I wish just once we can have a draft that promotes excitement and justify the PSL price. They are better off letting jetnation take over one draft because the results couldn't be any worse. The elite teams KILLED in the draft because they did their homework. I challenge the Jets organization to do better for the benefit of the team and its fans PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put your best foot forward in these endeavors for this franchise has been through alot.

The "elite" teams such as the New England Patriots are probably the worst drafting team in history, yet they are praised because they win. Look at the New England drafts over the past 10 years... AWFUL!!! They seem to have 12 picks every year, yet you never hear from these guys again.. and the guys they end up getting in FREE AGENCY is why they succeed. The Steelers took Jarvis Jones in the first round. I GUARANTY you, if the Jets drafted him, they would be getting killed. But, the Steelers draft him and they are brilliant. Enough with the draft evaluations. No one knows how this draft is going to turn out. NO ONE. So, saying the Jets had an awful draft is not giving the new GM a chance at all. In 5 years, you can judge him. Not now.

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I don't claim to be the best evaluator of talent in the world, butto watch other teams year after year knock it out of the park draft after draft it frustrates me to no end. Is this organization that inept that we can't evaluate talent and fill our needs? We missed our safety, tight end, OUTSIDE RUSHER. In previous years we drafted POORLY this is why we always draft at the top half of the draft. I wish just once we can have a draft that promotes excitement and justify the PSL price. They are better off letting jetnation take over one draft because the results couldn't be any worse. The elite teams KILLED in the draft because they did their homework. I challenge the Jets organization to do better for the benefit of the team and its fans PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put your best foot forward in these endeavors for this franchise has been through alot.

They were able to grab three players that they had penciled in at the top of each of their respective positions. I would bet no other team can say that. They also picked up a damn good proven NFL caliber RB that fits the new scheme with a 4th round pick. From there, they picked up two solid college OL, a project player that is massive, and a solid blocking/catching TE/FB hybrid.

Solid draft IMO. Your same ol' Jets mentality will not allow you to see the light at the end of the tunnel, but this draft could go a long way to turn things around. Also, do not "always" draft in the last half of the first round. In fact, we have made the playoffs quite a bit in the past 15 years.

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I understand all of your points but look back at our drafts.....all of them we had a few bright spots lioe rev8s, harris, wilkerson, devito, coples, brick, mangold, etc but the elite teams buiod through the draft SF,BAL, TEXANS, SEAHWAKS. do you rremember when the seahawks were awful....hell even the rams the last few years have drafted well tye beat the 49 ers then tied them...hell a few years ago the bibers were terrible but the drafted well.

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What i would like to add other than whats already been stated is that the strength of this draft was at offensive line and defensive line starter and depth positions. the team used their first 2 picks to get the BPA at the other positions and then went where the draft was strongest. I am glad that we addressed the offensive line. very solid draft from the looks.

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They were able to grab three players that they had penciled in at the top of each of their respective positions. I would bet no other team can say that. They also picked up a damn good proven NFL caliber RB that fits the new scheme with a 4th round pick. From there, they picked up two solid college OL, a project player that is massive, and a solid blocking/catching TE/FB hybrid.

Solid draft IMO. Your same ol' Jets mentality will not allow you to see the light at the end of the tunnel, but this draft could go a long way to turn things around. Also, do not "always" draft in the last half of the first round. In fact, we have made the playoffs quite a bit in the past 15 years.

My question is what good are they of we didn't address the holes that we have in our roster we can't score......but we have a great defense

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This draft class hasn't had a chance to prove its self I get it but what about the previous classes as a whole

 

i agree some of the previous draft classes have left alot to be desired. but this is a new GM give the man a chance to put his stamp on the franchise 

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This draft class a chance for they have yet to hit the field but let look at the glaring holes we have too guys how is Geno to be successful if he does have a playmaker hell even a good tight end which is a need. H9w do you send the defense back on the field knowing the offense is inept. This is tue quickest way to ruin a young quarterback

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I know you guys remember whwn we have 4 former 1st round OLstarting for us..that was the year noone wanted any parts of the jets AND it allowed mark Sanchez to just manage the game now or OL is in disarray. ...lets see what this year bring but we addressed needs then even through free agency 2ise decision making on quality players. Ask yourself who does Geno throwd to? Where is our pass rush? What about saftey? Where is our playmaker? I don't care who you have at QB if you can't protect him he will fail

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This draft class hasn't had a chance to prove its self I get it but what about the previous classes as a whole

 

They did fire the GM responsible for the previous seven years, maybe we can give this guy a chance? 

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The Jets had a good draft , We need a QB ,CB , 2 OG , RB , not bad out of 7 picks ew have too many holes to fill with 1 draft ,we need TE ,OLB,SS , hopefully fill with some good FA ,how many of these players make the team , last years draft not many made the team

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This draft class a chance for they have yet to hit the field but let look at the glaring holes we have too guys how is Geno to be successful if he does have a playmaker hell even a good tight end which is a need. H9w do you send the defense back on the field knowing the offense is inept. This is tue quickest way to ruin a young quarterback

Dude, we are rebuilding. Geno will likely sit this year. We had a need for every position we selected in the draft, so I am not understanding your point there. Milliner was an easy choice and should be a long time starter opposite Cro, and I don't think anyone wants to see Kyle Wilson as a starter outside. We needed another D lineman because we lost two good ones. We took a flyer on a project QB who's value was too good to pass up. We took a few OL because we lost two starters and needed an upgrade at the guard position anyway. The seventh round pick also addresses a need, as the Wake Forest kid can line up at TE and FB, he can block, and he can catch the football. We also used a 4th to address the need for a starting RB.

We never could have expected to address all the needs through the draft. As for the other needs though, we have added an OLB type pass rushing specialist, and Pace is back. The coaching staff also thinks Sapp will eventually pan out. We took two safeties late last year, and I think they will add another via FA. Holmes will return from injury, and you have to hope Hill will progress. Don't forget about White, last year's 7th round WR who was super productive in college, but was injured early last year.

I'm not saying we will win the SB, or even make the playoffs, but I have to feel like the Jets got better this weekend, and I am very pleased with the way Idzik operates. No trades up or down. We let the draft come to us, which is something trader mike could never do. I would speculate that, if you include Ivory, the Jets added four day one starters through this draft. That's not easy.

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I understand all of your points but look back at our drafts.....all of them we had a few bright spots lioe rev8s, harris, wilkerson, devito, coples, brick, mangold, etc but the elite teams buiod through the draft SF,BAL, TEXANS, SEAHWAKS. do you rremember when the seahawks were awful....hell even the rams the last few years have drafted well tye beat the 49 ers then tied them...hell a few years ago the bibers were terrible but the drafted well.

SF has been terrible for many years. The Seahawks made the playoffs at 6-10 2 years ago. That's how bad their division was . And the niners were in that division.  I would really hold off calling any of them elite.  The Ravens? Sure. I hold Ozzie Newsome as one the finest Gm's out there. But let's take a breath here.

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I don't claim to be the best evaluator of talent in the world, butto watch other teams year after year knock it out of the park draft after draft it frustrates me to no end. Is this organization that inept that we can't evaluate talent and fill our needs? We missed our safety, tight end, OUTSIDE RUSHER. In previous years we drafted POORLY this is why we always draft at the top half of the draft. I wish just once we can have a draft that promotes excitement and justify the PSL price. They are better off letting jetnation take over one draft because the results couldn't be any worse. The elite teams KILLED in the draft because they did their homework. I challenge the Jets organization to do better for the benefit of the team and its fans PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put your best foot forward in these endeavors for this franchise has been through alot.

*face palm* another smartass fan who thinks you draft for need and not BPA. Drafting for need only fills a gap in the short run, but in the long run, you miss out on great talent.

To answer ur concerns with the TE, S and OLB needs, we had 7 picks. We needed a CB, DT, Gurads, T, RB, QB, QR... List is long, so you draft the board.

You're right. You're not a good talent evaluator and want to reach for need. That's what need does. You ALWAYS reach for need and always draft value when going BPA

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The Jets had a good draft , We need a QB ,CB , 2 OG , RB , not bad out of 7 picks ew have too many holes to fill with 1 draft ,we need TE ,OLB,SS , hopefully fill with some good FA ,how many of these players make the team , last years draft not many made the team

Corner believe it or not was not an immediate need and DT could have been taken in the 3 rd Geno Smith is a luxury especially when he has noone to throw to if we at least had a TE I could say OK TE is a qb best friend . Lets look at tye rest of our division and what they have done in free agency and the draft we should every year ask ourselves how can we win this division! !!! Hell even the dolphin hit the **** IT BUTTON and made sure when they play the elite teams they are competitive. We on the other hand drafted a DT that disappeared a lot when you watched his tape, Geno Smith that disappeared tue second half of the season Milliner I kinda understand talented played in the SEC on the best teams and was productive

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So we draft the best CB who was mocked to go top 5, the top QB in the 2nd rd who was also mocked to go top 10, a DT who many scouts have said is just flat out explosive, a guard who will probably be starting week one......your right we suck

 

 

This guy is correct.

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*face palm* another smartass fan who thinks you draft for need and not BPA. Drafting for need only fills a gap in the short run, but in the long run, you miss out on great talent.

To answer ur concerns with the TE, S and OLB needs, we had 7 picks. We needed a CB, DT, Gurads, T, RB, QB, QR... List is long, so you draft the board.

You're right. You're not a good talent evaluator and want to reach for need. That's what need does. You ALWAYS reach for need and always draft value when going BPA

So are you telling me Geno Smith and Sheldon Richardson where they were drafted best for tye team? How does those picks help us compete when sheldon doesn't have an outside presence to help hom do his job? How does not having a decent safety in coverage give him 1 to 2 seconds more to get to t he QB? What does Geno Smith do when its 3rd and 8 and defenses pin their ears back and go get him because he has noone on offense that is a threat? You can only throw so many screens before they pick up on it. May if we fot Vaccaro at 9 since Austin was gone and Eifert at 13 since dion was gone and SF and ATL wanted a TE we could have given the young qb a playmaker and best TE in the draft and best S In The draft . With the 3 pick an OLB like Collins or Sean Porter in later rounds. The point is we had options to not only draft for our needs but fill them with the best at their position. Also you can drop tye smartass talk you are an adult you sure enough can't whip my ass so the tough talk you can miss me with that

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So are you telling me Geno Smith and Sheldon Richardson where they were drafted best for tye team? How does those picks help us compete when sheldon doesn't have an outside presence to help hom do his job? How does not having a decent safety in coverage give him 1 to 2 seconds more to get to t he QB? What does Geno Smith do when its 3rd and 8 and defenses pin their ears back and go get him because he has noone on offense that is a threat? You can only throw so many screens before they pick up on it. May if we fot Vaccaro at 9 since Austin was gone and Eifert at 13 since dion was gone and SF and ATL wanted a TE we could have given the young qb a playmaker and best TE in the draft and best S In The draft . With the 3 pick an OLB like Collins or Sean Porter in later rounds. The point is we had options to not only draft for our needs but fill them with the best at their position. Also you can drop tye smartass talk you are an adult you sure enough can't whip my ass so the tough talk you can miss me with that

 

If you take a deep breath and realize that the Jets weren't scheduled to be very good this year, accepting this draft becomes much easier. I'm not thrilled with the three straight guard conversions, either, but I understand the Jets have two very good OL and three meh OL - so the opportunity to improve there with lower picks is smart, IMHO. 

 

Milliner was the top CB in the draft, the top defender overall according to some so-called experts, and the Jets had a need there. 

 

Richardson was obviously their top DT, as he was the first DT off the board. Sheldon will have plenty of help lined up between Wilkerson and Coples, and he'll be helping them out, too. The Jets DL looks absolutely beastly. All three of those guys are versatile, too, and can line up anywhere on the line or behind it. 

 

Geno Smith was just a solid value. Pretty much the draft's consensus top QB, and the Jets take him at #39? Yes, the weapons are questionable, but Steven Hill was a solid prospect entering his second year, and Hayden Smith is completely uncoverable - so there's that. The work on offense was obviously to bolster the running game (2 RBs, 3 OL, and a FB added) in an effort to ease the pressure on the passing game - which will struggle. 

 

But this was always a two year rebuild. Ugly contracts are holding them back this year. Next year, they'll have $50M in cap space and more than 10 draft picks. They'll get there, and it really won't take that long. It's just that this year is gonna kinda suck. 

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So are you telling me Geno Smith and Sheldon Richardson where they were drafted best for tye team? How does those picks help us compete when sheldon doesn't have an outside presence to help hom do his job? How does not having a decent safety in coverage give him 1 to 2 seconds more to get to t he QB? What does Geno Smith do when its 3rd and 8 and defenses pin their ears back and go get him because he has noone on offense that is a threat? You can only throw so many screens before they pick up on it. May if we fot Vaccaro at 9 since Austin was gone and Eifert at 13 since dion was gone and SF and ATL wanted a TE we could have given the young qb a playmaker and best TE in the draft and best S In The draft . With the 3 pick an OLB like Collins or Sean Porter in later rounds. The point is we had options to not only draft for our needs but fill them with the best at their position. Also you can drop tye smartass talk you are an adult you sure enough can't whip my ass so the tough talk you can miss me with that

Richardson was the best pass rushing DT. He's our Kris Jenkins. Kris Jenkins routinely engaged two defenders at a time, freeing up a spot. With SRich, our LBs job becomes easier. There was no OLB worth taking at #13 as all the premier ones had been drafted. We lost a starter at DT and at CB. We also lost starters at RB, FS, SS, ILB, OLB, LG and RG. We filled one of the safety, OLB, RB and guard spot via FA in Landry, Barnes, Goodwin and Colon. We still had 5 other vacancies at starting spot even if we ignored the QB. We traded our 4th for a spot of need at RB. With 7 draft picks and 5 starting positions yet to be filled, you weren't going to leave the draft with a comets roster (3 picks in rounds 5, 6 and 7). We had 4 picks on first two days and picked up 4 starters. You can't go bad in a draft when u get 4 starters. It's a fine draft where BPA strategy used to the best.

We do have a need at TE and safety, but One of the last years safety can start and Cumberland can be adequate. A 5th round TE wasn't going to change our offense dynamically. Would you have been fine if we drafted a safety today? Guess what, we have two safeties we drafted on the third day last year.

Goi g back to the DT pick, Pouha was a slightly above DT at best. Nothing too special. With Rich, the DL group becomes a strength, something we've lacked since the Jenkins Days.

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The NFL has become such a QB driven league that this entire draft will basically come down to "can Geno play"?   and when do the Jets find out if he can play of not.   

 

If Geno pans out then this was a great draft.   If Geno can't play in the NFL and ANY of the QB's selected after him turn out to be stars then this was a huge opportunity lost.    

 

So far I really like Idzik's approach: 

 

1.   He refused to pay a CB $16M/year

 

2.  he realized immediately that Sanchez was not the answer and moved on regardless of contract or cap consequences

 

3.   He didn't draft an OG at the top of rd 1 (personally I loved Warmack but that's why I'm not the GM)

 

4.  He had a board and stuck to it.  regardless of need he took BAP throughout 7 rounds

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BAP in the draft.  Target holes to fill in FA.

 

Flipping the above leads to going after headlines in FA and reaching for lower value in the draft.

 

Also anyone who expected every hole adequately filled this offseason was kidding himself.

 

 

This should be painfully obvious to anyone with a double-digit IQ, but lots of folks around here are oblivious to this fact.

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So are you telling me Geno Smith and Sheldon Richardson where they were drafted best for tye team? How does those picks help us compete when sheldon doesn't have an outside presence to help hom do his job? How does not having a decent safety in coverage give him 1 to 2 seconds more to get to t he QB? What does Geno Smith do when its 3rd and 8 and defenses pin their ears back and go get him because he has noone on offense that is a threat? You can only throw so many screens before they pick up on it. May if we fot Vaccaro at 9 since Austin was gone and Eifert at 13 since dion was gone and SF and ATL wanted a TE we could have given the young qb a playmaker and best TE in the draft and best S In The draft . With the 3 pick an OLB like Collins or Sean Porter in later rounds. The point is we had options to not only draft for our needs but fill them with the best at their position. Also you can drop tye smartass talk you are an adult you sure enough can't whip my ass so the tough talk you can miss me with that

 

 

These are your answers for what you see to be a terrible draft???  Short bus.  

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These are your answers for what you see to be a terrible draft??? Short bus.

Ok mostro lets see how these prospect pan out before we short bus anyone sweetheart last I checked we were still 6-10 last year pudding this is Idzik s first draft so lets see if he's different

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