Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 This is the scum setup. And I now have proof. JVOR kills Klecko tonight (obvious SK) and Klecko kills Hally, leaving the game at Lylo with him confirmed and he will claim to have viewed the dead person. Klecko just admitted that he was SK with the pressure to speed lynch me. Viagra was stolen from myself first, Csarmi second, and I can't recall if Ishy was third. However, in taking it from me he would have to know that I am town, and since I was the first to claim it stolen I could not know that it was possible to be stolen unless I actually had Viagra: thus I am town and a town vig would inexorably know this and not want to lynch me. Kill Klecko today, and tomorrow we can see about JVOR. Here is why we can see about JVOR: other he is honest or lying. Tonight after Klecko dies mafia has to kill one of myself, JVOR, Ishy, or Leelou because the only remaining unconfirmed people will be Leelou and Hally. Thus, if JVOR lives again the mafia cannot win and thus it can't be their play. However, 5/1 means that in lynching JVOR we can eliminate that all too likely risk and validate his claims, then leaving three against one with two of the three confirmed. Best scenario. Dude, can you make it more obvious that you are not only scum, but scum who hasn't been following the game at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't have to. The evidence is clear. If I wasn't exactly what I claimed on the first day of this game then I would not have known to claim it, and that you deny this about me makes you clearly not aligned with me. Thus: I am town and you are not. While I admit that the JVOR argument is conjecture on my part, I can think of no other logical explaination for him surviving the night, and especially not the next one. But time will tell for that. You, on the other hand, I am certain of because of your foolish play on the last page where you denied that you took Viagra from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I never denied taking viagra from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Page 6 of the game. No, it has something to do with viagra Posted by Darthe on 24 June 2013 - 09:02 PM in Mafia Game Forum HessStation, on 24 Jun 2013 - 16:23, said: So where did Darthe get the JVOR meta from? :shrug: I thought he was in my first game here and in the one Ape hosted. Apparently I was wrong. IMHO they probably mean nothing ^ Nolder said this though the formatting for some reason got boned. They definitely mean something, as mine has just been stolen. Thus, people do not reveal if you have viagra anymore! It will not help you at this point because of how much it has been claimed and it may hurt the town in some way. I think this has something to relate with the use of it that we will not understand unless the person it pertains to is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well that was an odd quoting error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I never denied taking viagra from anyone. You only admit to taking it from Ishy and now are pushing the lynch of someone who it was stolen from. A town vig who used Viagra as shots would know who they took it from and that the individuals were town from this, thus the quoted statement is backpedaling. Furthermore, killing two people at once is not a trait that I have ever seen given to a vig and the scenes related look like SK scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Again, please show me where I denied stealing someone's viagra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 So you think this game was constructed with a godfather, a paranoid cop, and no real sane investigator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 You only admit to taking it from Ishy and now are pushing the lynch of someone who it was stolen from. A town vig who used Viagra as shots would know who they took it from and that the individuals were town from this, thus the quoted statement is backpedaling. Furthermore, killing two people at once is not a trait that I have ever seen given to a vig and the scenes related look like SK scenes. Me admitting to taking it from Ishy is not the same as me denying taking it from you. That's a moronic interpretation. I killed Pac, AVM died automatically as they were the lovers. It was still only a single kill on my part. You're worse than Pac at this game, and he sucks. I proudly admit that every viagra pill stolen in this game was stolen by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 And where has it been proven that the pills were only given to town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Not to mention that not killing me is highly questionable decision-making by mafia. You're literally the only one trying to set up my lynch tomorrow and pushing this angle, which is the only reason I can think of for mafia keeping me alive. Not to mention at worst case scenario you're a townie that I don't have much faith in making a good decision based on your commentary and analysis thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If you have only submitted one kill then how many do you have left and where do they come from? JVOR: If you are not mafia then we have over half of the game confirmed and it becomes impossible for mafia to win. That is not a scenario that they could have been dumb enough to put themselves into. Leelou, simply put it isn't. But what mafia member would be the first to claim something so implausible? Your play is quite frankly idiotic this game if you are town (which I think you are, as JVOR would need to confirm a couple of townies for allies regardless of his alignment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 So you think this game was constructed with a godfather, a paranoid cop, and no real sane investigator? Valid point. Don't forget a doc and potentially whatever abilities Lily, Leelou, or Hally hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 So you think this game was constructed with a godfather, a paranoid cop, and no real sane investigator? Darthe, please answer this question. I have no idea how you are possibly going to try to spin this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Valid point. Don't forget a doc and potentially whatever abilities Lily, Leelou, or Hally hold. Lily claimed roleless and Leelou, whatever she is, isn't countering me. You're down to Hally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Sadly I have run out of time. It is my girlfriends birthday and I am off. You all have my analysis and points, and are likely going to push for my death. Hopefully Hally, Lily, and Ishy see things differently than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Lily claimed roleless and Leelou, whatever she is, isn't countering me. You're down to Hally. It would seem underpowered. I just can't figure what mafia is stupid enough to corner themselves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If you have only submitted one kill then how many do you have left and where do they come from? JVOR: If you are not mafia then we have over half of the game confirmed and it becomes impossible for mafia to win. That is not a scenario that they could have been dumb enough to put themselves into. Leelou, simply put it isn't. But what mafia member would be the first to claim something so implausible? Your play is quite frankly idiotic this game if you are town (which I think you are, as JVOR would need to confirm a couple of townies for allies regardless of his alignment). Are you friggin' kidding me? Can you read? I said that I need to find viagra in order to kill. I didn't set up the game, pal. I'm just playing it, which is more than I can say for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If you have only submitted one kill then how many do you have left and where do they come from? JVOR: If you are not mafia then we have over half of the game confirmed and it becomes impossible for mafia to win. That is not a scenario that they could have been dumb enough to put themselves into. Leelou, simply put it isn't. But what mafia member would be the first to claim something so implausible? Your play is quite frankly idiotic this game if you are town (which I think you are, as JVOR would need to confirm a couple of townies for allies regardless of his alignment). My play is idiotic? Sorry I'm following the game and not taking everything at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Me admitting to taking it from Ishy is not the same as me denying taking it from you. That's a moronic interpretation. I killed Pac, AVM died automatically as they were the lovers. It was still only a single kill on my part. You're worse than Pac at this game, and he sucks. I proudly admit that every viagra pill stolen in this game was stolen by me. Why did you kill Salami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Why did you kill Salami? I killed him because of the comment he made to Verbal about him being protected the night he wound dying. Verbal couldn't be protected by the doctor because Tom Shane was killed night one. It seemed like mis-direction from the mafia to me. I guessed wrong unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallia Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 OK, I'm the vig. I win with the town. I need viagra to kill. I forgot to guess who had viagra yesterday so I had no nightkill otherwise I would have taken Darthe out. I say we lynch either Hallia or Darthe and somebody can give me a viagra and will kill the other one tonight - guaranteeing a town victory. I don't buy it. Mine was stolen yesterday, so it smells like a lie. Vote Klecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't buy it. Mine was stolen yesterday, so it smells like a lie. Vote Klecko Yours was stolen two days ago. I didn't steal any during the last day phase which is the only reason you're alive right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Did you have a failed kill or lose a pill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Did you have a failed kill or lose a pill? I had no kill on night one because I guessed wrong, I had no kill on night two because I was blocked (I tried to kill Pac, he couldn't have been protected because Tom (Doc) was dead already.) On night three I killed Pac and AVM died along with him because they were the lovers. On night four I killed Salami based on his comment about protecting Verbal. On night five I had no kill because I didn't guess right on who had viagra, for the record I guess Leelou but she didn't have any. I have no reason to lie. That is everything I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 OK, I'm the vig. I win with the town. I need viagra to kill. I forgot to guess who had viagra yesterday so I had no nightkill otherwise I would have taken Darthe out. I say we lynch either Hallia or Darthe and somebody can give me a viagra and will kill the other one tonight - guaranteeing a town victory. I had no kill on night one because I guessed wrong, I had no kill on night two because I was blocked (I tried to kill Pac, he couldn't have been protected because Tom (Doc) was dead already.) On night three I killed Pac and AVM died along with him because they were the lovers. On night four I killed Salami based on his comment about protecting Verbal. On night five I had no kill because I didn't guess right on who had viagra, for the record I guess Leelou but she didn't have any. I have no reason to lie. That is everything I know. Those seem like conflicting statements to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Those seem like conflicting statements to me. The truth is actually both. I forgot and then JiF gave me a second chance and I guessed you. I would have taken out either Darthe or Hallia and I was literally going to flip a coin to decide which. Right now I am actually leaning more toward Hallia being scum but if we lynch one now and I take out the other, town wins so we're ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Besides, Ishy can confirm I took his viagra during the current day phase. If I was being sneaky I would try and get everyone to tell me whether or not they had viagra and not guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishy Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yes, my viagra was stolen today, not that I needed it anyway. I'm undecided about Klecko and his reveal. On one hand, I believe that he has a kill and that it requires viagra to work. I'm thinking it sounds much more like an SK role than a vig, just due to the mechanics of how his kill works. Add that to his lurky play up till now and the conflicting nature of his statements which Leroy pointed out and it just doesn't pass the smell test for me. Before I vote, I think Hallia needs to claim, it's odd to me that everyone else has but her. I won't be voting for Darthe. I've thought him Town since Day One and nothing has happpened to change that. I won't kill him just for being derp. At this point, for me it's Klecko or Hallia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't buy it. Mine was stolen yesterday, so it smells like a lie. Vote Klecko What is your claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yes, my viagra was stolen today, not that I needed it anyway. I'm undecided about Klecko and his reveal. On one hand, I believe that he has a kill and that it requires viagra to work. I'm thinking it sounds much more like an SK role than a vig, just due to the mechanics of how his kill works. Add that to his lurky play up till now and the conflicting nature of his statements which Leroy pointed out and it just doesn't pass the smell test for me. Before I vote, I think Hallia needs to claim, it's odd to me that everyone else has but her. I won't be voting for Darthe. I've thought him Town since Day One and nothing has happpened to change that. I won't kill him just for being derp. At this point, for me it's Klecko or Hallia. BOOM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Voting Klecko today is very dumb if you're town. If he's actually the vig then voting him out today prevents an autowin scenario. He cannot be mafia, as he's the only one admitting to the 2nd kill per day and at worst is serial killer. If he's a serial killer, then he's announced to everybody and HAS to go with who the town wants to shoot. If he doesn't town will just vote him out tomorrow and your left with town vs mafia at worst. If there's 2 mafia, that means that two of Darthe, Lily, and Hallia are mafia so it STILL is the better play to vote out one of them oddswise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallia Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Vanilla Town, nothing special. I had viagra, but it was stolen (You're right Klecko, it was 2 days ago; this last day was so short!) Unvote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallia Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I wasn't able to get on at all yesterday. Got the pleasure of a 15 hour workday >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishy Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I'm really afraid that Lily is fooling me. She's distracting me with those legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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