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3 Atlanta radio hosts were fired Monday for a senseless skit mocking former New Orleans Saints player Steve Gleason ~ ~ ~

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Seems to me that if you have to resort to making fun of Steve Gleason to get a laugh, you're neither smart nor funny enough to have a radio show anyway.

Clever trumps cruel every time. Fire them and give you and I the spot.

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Imus wasn't fired because people demanded it. Imus was fired because corporations pulled their financing for a show that wasn't pulling great ratings anyway. You and Gato want to make a philosophical argument to determine what a societal standard should be for what is it isn't offensive. If you guys think that there should be zero limits to what can be disseminated, that's fine, but you'd be ignoring the practical realities of the broadcasting industry.

 

Right, Imus wasnt doing well...this just gave them an excuse. If Imus said that joke in the early 90's, at the peak of his popularity, he wouldnt have been fired. Because one, back then no one had an internet platform to be "offended" and he obviously was a ratings giant at the time. On the list of "offensive" things Imus, Bernard and company said over the years...that'd probably fall into the last percentile.

 

I haven't even read enough about this, how were Shapiro's ratings? The station knew he was a guy who did fringe/offensive humor...whats funny is them being surprised something like this happened...similar to ESPN and Rush.

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First bold: Whoa love, it really takes a miserable piece of sh*t to type that out.

Second bold: Read the thread.

So what's the line for funny? What can and can't you make fun of? What are the laws to joke telling on an entertainment platform that remain unwritten? Why can't they be written down so that those guys actually broke a rule rather than crossed some invisible, bullsh*t, arbitrary line? What does his kid have to do with his joke?

Nah, like I said earlier it is undeniable that you are a scumbag. Like the DJ behind the mic, you have no concern for the effects of your words on an anonymous venue. Why does he deserve to get through life without being publically humiliated? You are so naive; the argument is not even apples to apples. I can run down the steet yelling God hates people with cancer, and that idiocy would be protected in a public venue. But if I went into your home and told your mother that she deserved to die because she had cancer, you would ask me to leave. I could tell my customers that 9/11 was a hoax but I would not have a job by lunch because it is in bad taste. You know this, and that is why people like you are the ones who truly deserve the debilitating effects of ALS. It's unfortunate. Continue on your sad diatribe, don't worry. We see you.

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Right, Imus wasnt doing well...this just gave them an excuse. If Imus said that joke in the early 90's, at the peak of his popularity, he wouldnt have been fired. Because one, back then no one had an internet platform to be "offended" and he obviously was a ratings giant at the time. On the list of "offensive" things Imus, Bernard and company said over the years...that'd probably fall into the last percentile.

I haven't even read enough about this, how were Shapiro's ratings? The station knew he was a guy who did fringe/offensive humor...whats funny is them being surprised something like this happened...similar to ESPN and Rush.

The great test case would be if Carton crosses the line.

This Shapiro thing is an awful starting point for a censorship discussion because it was so flagrantly stupid that no level of ratings was going to save him, and there was no need for the station to even wait on the public outcry.

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You would like to dictate how an entire audience should react to certain productions, or at least determine a societal standard as to how offended an entire audience should be allowed to be.

 

No, I would like people who are offended by what entertainers say to shut the **** up and get over it. I would like those people who feel the need to grab arms over jokes to get a life and cut the phony, pretentious outcries that does way more damage to individual lives than anything these guys (or the many similar cases) have done to anyone. These guys' lives are ruined by one joke that violated NO rules that they know of or operate under every day. Meanwhile the vast majority has already forgotten and Steve Gleason got bought 5 minutes of publicity he can take advantage of.

 

You made this up entirely. There is not a single data point available to suggest that more people are turning to podcasts at the expense of traditional radio. 

 
 
Meh, I am hardly the first to say it and it's more true than not. Traditional radio is dying and it's because the public dictates that they want bland, nothing programming to match their similarly dull, nothing lives. Boy they do love that sports radio THO....there's a daily brainiac convention. 
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Ok.

So where do we draw the line? What can be considered funny and what

cant?

 

But sitting around and

demanding someone to be fired over a bad attempt at humor...man ppl need

to get a grip. They're just words. No one was injured.

 

 

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So what's the line for funny? What can and can't you make fun of? What are the laws to joke telling on an entertainment platform that remain unwritten? Why can't they be written down so that those guys actually broke a rule rather than crossed some invisible, bullsh*t, arbitrary line?

 

I'm sure both of you are very competent and secure in your jobs, but in defending these radio hosts you sound like every guy sitting in the bar who just f'd up and got canned.

 

Where do we draw the line?  Who's to say what's good and what isn't?  Hell, Kowalski did nearly the same thing last month but did the boss fire him?  Nooooooo......

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Clever trumps cruel every time. Fire them and give you and I the spot.

 

..T0mShane & The Crusher ? ?...if you guys do the show in atlanta....warning -  i'll be there   :winking0001:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~

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Nah, like I said earlier it is undeniable that you are a scumbag. Like the DJ behind the mic, you have no concern for the effects of your words on an anonymous venue. Why does he deserve to get through life without being publically humiliated? You are so naive; the argument is not even apples to apples. I can run down the steet yelling God hates people with cancer, and that idiocy would be protected in a public venue. But if I went into your home and told your mother that she deserved to die because she had cancer, you would ask me to leave. I could tell my customers that 9/11 was a hoax but I would not have a job by lunch because it is in bad taste. You know this, and that is why people like you are the ones who truly deserve the debilitating effects of ALS. It's unfortunate. Continue on your sad diatribe, don't worry. We see you.

 

That's because I am adult enough to know the difference between a joke and an insult. OTOH, some ******* random piece of human sh*t and garbage telling me I deserve ALS because I can ID a joke and survive any offense I should take from it? Rotfl, this is the kind of garbage, sh*t, phony crowd I'm talking about, and this is the kind of person that radio station chose to side with and cater to.  Some phony, sanctimonious, simple minded retard who can sit there preaching about higher morals while in the same breath  he says something as absolutely ******* stupid as that. 

 

Let me ask you something you little bag of worthless sh*t . If I were to contact Steve Gleason in an email explaining to him that there are retards like yourself given power to shove your supposed morals in my face while telling me that I am a miserable, piece of sh*t scumbag who deserves ALS - wtf do you think he says to that? Oh good, you totally deserve ALS for defending those guys? That is the problem here - you phony, sanctimonious pieces of garbage out there will sit there sh*tting your morals onto people telling them what they can and can't joke about on an entertainment platform - but in the end you're too stupid to actually hold up being as morally upstanding as you like to imagine you are. OTOH, you'll get away with your words and these guys, who were considered very good at their jobs by their peers, have their lives ruined.  

 

These DJs did not walk into Steve Gleason's home. These DJs did not involve his kid or kids. These DJs did not tell their customers that 9/11 is a hoax, and guess what dummy? You're not paid to talk. No one is paying to hear you talk. Not a siiiiiiiiingle one of your customers is looking for you to entertain them with your conspiracy theories or jokes. OTOH, radio DJs ARE paid to talk and ARE paid to entertain. If a joke falls by the wayside then so be it, that's about as far as it should go. There are rules set up and constantly changing that these guys already have to look out for, and they operated within those rules. No one wants or needs phony ******* assholes like yourself sh*tting your phony morals on people, wishing them ALS because you're too much of a ninny little girl to understand the difference between a bad joke and a truly venomous attack. 

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I'm sure both of you are very competent and secure in your jobs, but in defending these radio hosts you sound like every guy sitting in the bar who just f'd up and got canned.

 

Where do we draw the line?  Who's to say what's good and what isn't?  Hell, Kowalski did nearly the same thing last month but did the boss fire him?  Nooooooo......

 

Unless someone is physically hurting someone, or blatantly attacking someone maliciously I dont root for people to be fired for saying something someone might find offensive. Its about context. I wasnt the type of kid who rooted for the RA's in college either. Some kids did...but most found them to be the fun police.

 

Kramer- there was no context. He went off on a direct racial tirade. These guys were trying to tell a joke...that's what these mornings shows are, everyone tries to one up eachother...and they chose a very poor topic to attempt comedy. I didnt find it funny- just move on. Let the ratings dictate who's on the air and who's not.

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I'm sure both of you are very competent and secure in your jobs, but in defending these radio hosts you sound like every guy sitting in the bar who just f'd up and got canned.

 

Where do we draw the line?  Who's to say what's good and what isn't?  Hell, Kowalski did nearly the same thing last month but did the boss fire him?  Nooooooo......

 

No one knows, but a new line seemingly gets drawn every few months. Good for Kowalski and his boss, I bet he's happy to work with real adults after watching these DJs get burned at the stake by a bunch of half wits. 

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No, I would like people who are offended by what entertainers say to shut the **** up and get over it. I would like those people who feel the need to grab arms over jokes to get a life and cut the phony, pretentious outcries that does way more damage to individual lives than anything these guys (or the many similar cases) have done to anyone. These guys' lives are ruined by one joke that violated NO rules that they know of or operate under every day. Meanwhile the vast majority has already forgotten and Steve Gleason got bought 5 minutes of publicity he can take advantage of.

 

 
Meh, I am hardly the first to say it and it's more true than not. Traditional radio is dying and it's because the public dictates that they want bland, nothing programming to match their similarly dull, nothing lives. Boy they do love that sports radio THO....there's a daily brainiac convention. 

 

Are you aware of the fantastic irony that in the midst of all of this you are, far and away, throwing the biggest fit over what has occurred over anyone else posting on this board?

 

Your diatribes crying about their firing are not only factually incorrect, but attempting to make a case of how supposedly awful it is for a person to be held accountable for their own actions.  The rest of us are mostly simply telling you why you're wrong and your argument doesn't make any sense, since the legality of an action has no correlation to a company's ability or desire to fire you for it (despite your main point attempting to claim otherwise).  So perhaps you're the one who needs to, to use your words, "get a life and cut the phony, pretentious outcries".

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Are you aware of the fantastic irony that in the midst of all of this you are, far and away, throwing the biggest fit over what has occurred over anyone else posting on this board?

 

Your diatribes crying about their firing are not only factually incorrect, but attempting to make a case of how supposedly awful it is for a person to be held accountable for their own actions.  The rest of us are mostly simply telling you why you're wrong and your argument doesn't make any sense, since the legality of an action has no correlation to a company's ability or desire to fire you for it (despite your main point attempting to claim otherwise).  So perhaps you're the one who needs to, to use your words, "get a life and cut the phony, pretentious outcries".

 

Problem is, the company fired him over backlash that hadn't even happened yet. Let the audience dictate who's on the air and who isnt. Apparently the show was doing decently for Atlanta(not a sports town by any stretch). Like I said earlier, Chick Fil-A never lost any business.

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No, I would like people who are offended by what entertainers say to shut the **** up and get over it. I would like those people who feel the need to grab arms over jokes to get a life and cut the phony, pretentious outcries that does way more damage to individual lives than anything these guys (or the many similar cases) have done to anyone. These guys' lives are ruined by one joke that violated NO rules that they know of or operate under every day. Meanwhile the vast majority has already forgotten and Steve Gleason got bought 5 minutes of publicity he can take advantage of.

Yeah, I'm sure Steve Gleason was lapping up the spotlight there.

Meh, I am hardly the first to say it and it's more true than not.

No it's not.

Traditional radio is dying and it's because the public dictates that they want bland, nothing programming to match their similarly dull, nothing lives. Boy they do love that sports radio THO....there's a daily brainiac convention.

Traditional radio has lost market share to satellite radio. Podcasts peaked in 2009 and have flatlined in popularity since. They're already as obsolete as smoke signals and telegraphs.

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I will say the social media lynch mob(gawker, deadspin...) etc is real, and frankly pathetic. Im offended! Fire them! How do you not agree with me?!?! You bigot!!

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Advertisers don't pull their ads because they're afraid of protests. They pull their ads when the associated content jeopardizes the brand.

 

You honestly think Howard Stern on FM was jeopardizing anything?

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Problem is, the company fired him over backlash that hadn't even happened yet. Let the audience dictate who's on the air and who isnt. Apparently the show was doing decently for Atlanta(not a sports town by any stretch). Like I said earlier, Chick Fil-A never lost any business.

 

Perhaps, but it could also simply be that one of their superiors took issue with it themselves and that was the reason for their firing, regardless of any potential public backlash.  The bottom line is those who are writing the checks are the ones who get to decide who they write them to.  What's most interesting about all of this is that while Gato is rambling on about legal rights of individuals to say or do whatever they want without any repercussions (legal or otherwise), this entire argument is suggesting that apparently at the same time organizations should have no legals rights to decide who they do or do not decide to employ.

 

So which is it, are we supposed to live in a world that lets everyone do whatever the hell we want without repercussions, or should actions be allowed only when the government specifically tells us we're allowed to do them, on a case by case basis?  Unfortunately for Gato, despite what he seems to think should happen, I don't think we're ever going to see everyone in the world check to make sure what they want to do is ok with him.

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Perhaps, but it could also simply be that one of their superiors took issue with it themselves and that was the reason for their firing, regardless of any potential public backlash.  The bottom line is those who are writing the checks are the ones who get to decide who they write them to.  What's most interesting about all of this is that while Gato is rambling on about legal rights of individuals to say or do whatever they want without any repercussions (legal or otherwise), this entire argument is suggesting that apparently at the same time organizations should have no legals rights to decide who they do or do not decide to employ.

 

So which is it, are we supposed to live in a world that lets everyone do whatever the hell we want without repercussions, or should actions be allowed only when the government specifically tells us we're allowed to do them, on a case by case basis?  Unfortunately for Gato, despite what he seems to think should happen, I don't think we're ever going to see everyone in the world check to make sure what they want to do is ok with him.

 

Hey, anyone can get fired for anything. I have no problem with that- that's the way the world works. If their manager woke up that morning and wanted to pull the plug he cant do whatever he wants.

 

As  what Gato- I think we trying to get at....this social media witch hunt tha's been created over the past few years is absurd....and the people that bitch about being so offended over nonsense like Chick FIl-A or whatever... are generally louder than the entire group that couldnt care less. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

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That's because I am adult enough to know the difference between a joke and an insult. OTOH, some ******* random piece of human sh*t and garbage telling me I deserve ALS because I can ID a joke and survive any offense I should take from it? Rotfl, this is the kind of garbage, sh*t, phony crowd I'm talking about, and this is the kind of person that radio station chose to side with and cater to.  Some phony, sanctimonious, simple minded retard who can sit there preaching about higher morals while in the same breath  he says something as absolutely ******* stupid as that. 

 

Let me ask you something you little bag of worthless sh*t . If I were to contact Steve Gleason in an email explaining to him that there are retards like yourself given power to shove your supposed morals in my face while telling me that I am a miserable, piece of sh*t scumbag who deserves ALS - wtf do you think he says to that? Oh good, you totally deserve ALS for defending those guys? That is the problem here - you phony, sanctimonious pieces of garbage out there will sit there sh*tting your morals onto people telling them what they can and can't joke about on an entertainment platform - but in the end you're too stupid to actually hold up being as morally upstanding as you like to imagine you are. OTOH, you'll get away with your words and these guys, who were considered very good at their jobs by their peers, have their lives ruined.  

 

These DJs did not walk into Steve Gleason's home. These DJs did not involve his kid or kids. These DJs did not tell their customers that 9/11 is a hoax, and guess what dummy? You're not paid to talk. No one is paying to hear you talk. Not a siiiiiiiiingle one of your customers is looking for you to entertain them with your conspiracy theories or jokes. OTOH, radio DJs ARE paid to talk and ARE paid to entertain. If a joke falls by the wayside then so be it, that's about as far as it should go. There are rules set up and constantly changing that these guys already have to look out for, and they operated within those rules. No one wants or needs phony ******* assholes like yourself sh*tting your phony morals on people, wishing them ALS because you're too much of a ninny little girl to understand the difference between a bad joke and a truly venomous attack. 

 

We hear you bro. Go edit a Wikipedia entry on free speech.

 

 

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Hey, anyone can get fired for anything. I have no problem with that- that's the way the world works. If their manager woke up that morning and wanted to pull the plug he cant do whatever he wants.

 

As  what Gato- I think we trying to get at....this social media witch hunt tha's been created over the past few years is absurd....and the people that bitch about being so offended over nonsense like Chick FIl-A or whatever... are generally louder than the entire group that couldnt care less. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with that concept, but (perhaps unfortunately) that is also the way the world works these days.  I thought what these guys did was completely tasteless, but I wouldn't exactly be in an uproar if they hadn't been fired for it.  It's ultimately up to the company to make that decision and if they decide the actions are worthy of that person being fired, then it would seem that person's value to that company wasn't enough to overcome whatever they did, and that's all it really takes.

 

In the case of Gato's point, I just don't get what exactly is supposed to be so much more justified about throwing a fit over the actions of a company (in this case, someone being fired) than someone else throwing a fit over the actions of a person (what they said on the air).  Gato seems to think everyone else should act based on his personal opinions on matters, which is why everyone's arguing with him on this far more than you.

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Hey, anyone can get fired for anything. I have no problem with that- that's the way the world works. If their manager woke up that morning and wanted to pull the plug he cant do whatever he wants.

 

As  what Gato- I think we trying to get at....this social media witch hunt tha's been created over the past few years is absurd....and the people that bitch about being so offended over nonsense like Chick FIl-A or whatever... are generally louder than the entire group that couldnt care less. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

 

Ex-*******-actly. On top of it the people so offended over it are often Al Sharpton level phony and despicable - much closer to vultures than the shining lights they imagine themselves to be. 

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Yeah, I'm sure Steve Gleason was lapping up the spotlight there.

No it's not.

Traditional radio has lost market share to satellite radio. Podcasts peaked in 2009 and have flatlined in popularity since. They're already as obsolete as smoke signals and telegraphs.

 

Article for SI written within days...Not my fault the spotlight wasn't that bright...Goes to show how much those bags of sh*ts actually care.

 

Regular radio is dead, and much of the fall can be attributed to phony sanctimony like this. But hey, the world still gets Scott and Todd!  

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We? So the ****tard is also a schizo? What a guiding light. 

Aw, you're angry now. Hope I didn't hurt your feelings big guy. That'd be too bad. I was only joking about hoping you got ALS...lol :)

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You would like to dictate how an entire audience should react to certain productions

No, I would like people who are offended by what entertainers say to shut the **** up and get over it.

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