SMC Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 me and my stupid conspiracies that are always true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 More favors for CAA. Cant wait for Melo to get a new fat max contract in 2015. Bad contracts to overrated players, flush draft picks down the toilet....Dolan will never learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Barn-yarn-knee. Why? LIke, if it was just Camby and Novak I wouldn't care. It would actually be a reasonable salary dump if they didn't include the picks. But as it stand the best possible outcome is that its a lateral move that the front office pissed away draft picks on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 More favors for CAA. Cant wait for Melo to get a new fat max contract in 2015. Bad contracts to overrated players, flush draft picks down the toilet....Dolan will never learn. Nah, Melo will opt out after this season and sign with Clippers to team up with CP3. Then you can root for the Knicks with no star players, no 1st rounders and bad contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Nah, Melo will opt out after this season and sign with Clippers to team up with CP3. Then you can root for the Knicks with no star players, no 1st rounders and bad contracts. Who's to blame for that? Dolan hasnt changed at all....same bad decision after bad decision...no draft picks, overpriced stars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Who's to blame for that? Dolan hasnt changed at all....same bad decision after bad decision...no draft picks, overpriced stars... The biggest problem right now is Amar'e. The fact that Dolan is a brain damaged child doesn't help anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Dolan is the Devil. But that said, Im not going to hate on every move the team makes. But I dont like this trade because of the 2016 1st, which Denver has a right to swap. The main benefit is that AB only has 2 years on deal and Knicks actually save money in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The biggest problem right now is Amar'e. The fact that Dolan is a brain damaged child doesn't help anything.I agree. His health is the biggest obstacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Dolan is the Devil. But that said, Im not going to hate on every move the team makes. But I dont like this trade because of the 2016 1st, which Denver has a right to swap. The main benefit is that AB only has 2 years on deal and Knicks actually save money in 2015. Also worth noting that the Knicks drafts and foreign acquisitions have been solid under Greenwald. It's the pro personnel side that has given up picks for the likes of Camby and AB. So it's kind of baffling why they are so free with the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Are you arguing for the sake of arguing again, Dom? T0m said something stupid about Hardaway playing the point, although everyone knows Hardaway is a SG. Then, surprisingly, you respond to T0m as if he had asked a legitimate question when it was clearly nonsense since again, Hardaway is as much a PG as Melo. I never said I wanted Shump distributing. Hes not an NBA PG either, but he has played the position, which was something Hardaway never did. How the **** am I supposed to know what T0m is talking about. I have some friends that genuinely believe that Shumpert can play the point. He can play the point in an emergency and take the ball up and down the court, but he's no point. The fact that T0m is talking sh*t or Hardaway would be worse at it are close to irrelevant. I didn't think we were arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 How the **** am I supposed to know what T0m is talking about. I have some friends that genuinely believe that Shumpert can play the point. He can play the point in an emergency and take the ball up and down the court, but he's no point. The fact that T0m is talking sh*t or Hardaway would be worse at it are close to irrelevant. I didn't think we were arguing.In you're defense, it's hard to understand what T0m is saying most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I cant see anyone getting worked up over losing draft picks. What champions in the NBA were really built through the draft? The Heat were basically an all acquisition team. I think Dirk was the only member of the Mavs key guys to be a draft pick from the start. The Celtics clearly were an all acquisition team. The Lakers had Kobe and Bynum. Gasol, Artest, and Odom were all acquired. The Spurs are really the only team that has been built from the draft and Duncan was such a rare find in that he won with the team that drafted him. Neither LeBron nor Shaq did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 BTW, Houston is trying to trade Lin now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 I cant see anyone getting worked up over losing draft picks. What champions in the NBA were really built through the draft? The Heat were basically an all acquisition team. I think Dirk was the only member of the Mavs key guys to be a draft pick from the start. The Celtics clearly were an all acquisition team. The Lakers had Kobe and Bynum. Gasol, Artest, and Odom were all acquired. The Spurs are really the only team that has been built from the draft and Duncan was such a rare find in that he won with the team that drafted him. Neither LeBron nor Shaq did that. As it relates to the Nets, the real issue is that the three guys that the Nets have (that the cap allows any team to build around) are all question marks, particularly Johnson and Lopez. You're right that teams get built around acquisitions, but the Nets Big Three just don't measure up, which puts an onus on finding better than average talent to complement them. Doing so with Garnett and Pierce is awesome in the short term, scary outside of two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 In you're defense, it's hard to understand what T0m is saying most of the time. You guys are dicks. All I asked is if Hardaway was a combo-type guard that can play point, too. Knick jerks. CAA controls the Knicks more than the NCAA controls college basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You guys are dicks. All I asked is if Hardaway was a combo-type guard that can play point, too. Knick jerks. CAA controls the Knicks more than the NCAA controls college basketball. I'm a dick, but this discussion has nothing to do with it. Hardaway Jr is 6'6". He's probably as close to a swing G/F as a PG. He's too skinny for SF now, but I didn't see anything from him that would indicate he could play point other than the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'm a dick, but this discussion has nothing to do with it. Hardaway Jr is 6'6". He's probably as close to a swing G/F as a PG. He's too skinny for SF now, but I didn't see anything from him that would indicate he could play point other than the name. So's your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well at least AB is 10 yrs younger & cheaper than KG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'm a dick, but this discussion has nothing to do with it. Hardaway Jr is 6'6". He's probably as close to a swing G/F as a PG. He's too skinny for SF now, but I didn't see anything from him that would indicate he could play point other than the name.Dumb T0m was saying dumb stuff. Hardaway has never been a never will be a PG. The Knicks wanted a wing player. If they wanted a PG they wouldve drafted one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Dumb T0m was saying dumb stuff. Hardaway has never been a never will be a PG. The Knicks wanted a wing player. If they wanted a PG they wouldve drafted one. First two sentences?... sure. Third sentence? not so sure. It's not like they haven't done this before. Isn't this how they ended up with Shumpert playing point in 2011-12? Or were we supposed to be counting on Baron Davis and Mike Bibby to fill all those minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 First two sentences?... sure. Third sentence? not so sure. It's not like they haven't done this before. Isn't this how they ended up with Shumpert playing point in 2011-12? Or were we supposed to be counting on Baron Davis and Mike Bibby to fill all those minutes?You make it easy to argue for sake of arguing, LOL. Its not remotely the same because at lesst Shump played PG in college and HS. Hardaway never did. And the Davis Bibby mess was because D'A thought Toney Douglas could play point which was crazy. They have Felton and hopefully Prigs. There is also talk of bringing in another PG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well at least AB is 10 yrs younger & cheaper than KG. #KnicksTape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Knicks interested in Brand and Barnes. Nate Robinson mentioned too. I would LOVE the first two on the vet minimum or around there. Robinson would be terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Knicks interested in Brand and Barnes. Nate Robinson mentioned too. I would LOVE the first two on the vet minimum or around there. Robinson would be terrifying. There's competition for Brand, so you're not going to get him at minimum. Robinson is also going to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Nets are trying to deal Reggie Evans for a point guard after signing Andray Blatche last night for 1 yr/$1.2 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 There's competition for Brand, so you're not going to get him at minimum. Robinson is also going to get paid. He's got amnesty money, so if he really wants to be in NY he might take the minimum or thereabouts. Maybe they split the mini MLE between him and Prigs or something. I think Copeland is as good as gone. I'd rather not ride the Nate Robinson rollercoaster anyway. ALSO SHUT UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Doubt Knicks sign Brand unless Mavs are the only other serious team after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You make it easy to argue for sake of arguing, LOL. Its not remotely the same because at lesst Shump played PG in college and HS. Hardaway never did. And the Davis Bibby mess was because D'A thought Toney Douglas could play point which was crazy. They have Felton and hopefully Prigs. There is also talk of bringing in another PG. Hahaha. Toney Douglas! Isn't this the coach/GM fight? I'm not sure I would want a GM that would let my coach go into a season with Toney Douglas as the only point not collecting social security. Davis was like Kidd. They would have been good for 5-10 minutes a night, but when you are stuck relying on them for true minutes you are screwed. Davis had the added problem of being constantly injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 The awful Kevin Martin just got 4/$28m from the TWolves. $7m per. You Knickies can kiss JR Smith goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Kevin Garnett was born when Gerald Ford was president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 Kevin Garnett was born when Gerald Ford was president LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Bill Clinton was still in his first term as president when Garnett started in NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Tupac and BIG were still alive when Garnett started in NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Coolio's Gangsta's Paradise was the biggest song when Garnett started in NBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Aaron Hernandez was 6 yrs old and had not allegedly killed anyone when Garnett started in the NBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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