Blackout Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hugh Douglas was inebriated and threatened to beat up his colleague Michael Smith three times Friday night, a source who witnessed the altercation at the House of Blues in Orlando tells The Big Lead. According to the source, Douglas, who appears on Numbers Never Lie on ESPN with Michael Smith and Jemele Hill, was trying to get on stage where the DJ was playing, and threatened to beat up Smith if he couldn’t help out. After the third threat, Smith tried to walk away, at which point Douglas grabbed Smith’s wrist and hurled two racial epithets at him, calling him an “Uncle Tom” and a “House N—-.” Smith, the witness says, turned around to protect himself, at which point onlookers rushed in to break it up. Three independent sources have verified this version of events. Douglas was then pulled aside by someone from ESPN who was in attendance, and the two briefly spoke. Douglas then left the party. A source at ESPN says that Douglas has been yanked off Numbers Never Lie until the network can sort out details from the night. Douglas, who hasn’t tweeted since the incident, couldn’t be reached for comment. Smith, who hosted the show Monday, didn’t respond to a request for comment. The event was hosted by the National Association of Black Journalists, and the party was to raise money for college scholarships. A NABJ official who refused to be quoted by name told The Big Lead, “we’re confident that ESPN will handle the situation in an appropriate manner.” Douglas came to ESPN by way of the NFL, where he was once a first round draft pick of the Jets. On the heels of Riley Cooper’s situation in Philadelphia, and Douglas using racial slurs in the direction of his colleague, one is reminded of 2006 in Philadelphia, when the Eagles narrative was that Donovan McNabb couldn’t “win the locker room” because he wasn’t “a leader.” If you remember, the complaint with McNabb was he couldn’t win the respect of some of his teammates; the Philadelphia head of the NAACP didn’t think McNabb was black enough. Years later, Philadelphia boxer Bernard Hopkins made racially-tinged remarks about the final McNabb years in Philly. During McNabb’s infamous dispute with Terrell Owens, many in the Philly locker room reportedly sided with the clownish Owens over the greatest QB in the history of the franchise. Douglas wasn’t on that Eagles team, but he publicly questioned McNabb’s leadership at the time. (In 2011, Douglas was still not done with McNabb, calling him a ‘sissy‘ on Dan LeBatard’s show at the 4:04 mark before quickly taking it back.) Douglas is a fair representation of the mentality that exists within many NFL locker rooms. Guys like McNabb and Smith – who covered the Patriots for the Globe – are viewed as sellouts. The NFL locker room can be a confusing place. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/08/13/hugh-douglas-espn-part-ways/2648757/ _________________ Sounds like Hugh Douglas is a jerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Gee I thought it was OK for African Americans to say such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Where is Al Sharpton on this issue? Meanwhile, successful and well spoken black people will continue to draw negative comments from members of their own race. Maybe he should have just called him a "cornball brother", that seems to keep you employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 IBTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It is as possible for Hugh Douglass to be racist as it is for me to give myself the clap. Ignorant and self defeating, yes. Racist? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 IBTL ^ cracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 IBTL Why? Seems harmless enough. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 I can't wait for Fox Sports One to start and then put ESPN out of business when ESPN realizes their crap programming needs to be revamped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It is as possible for Hugh Douglass to be racist as it is for me to give myself the clap. Ignorant and self defeating, yes. Racist? LOL Anyone can be racist not just whites but in this case it's more of a class basis then racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I can't wait for Fox Sports One to start and then put ESPN out of business when ESPN realizes their crap programming needs to be revamped Not going to happen. ESPN has huge contracts with most of the major and college sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The horror. There should be rally's in the streets and protests. Oh wait ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Paula Dean and Hugh Douglas at the unemployment Office. Paula turns around and says "Hey what are you here for?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 "uncle Tom" isn't necessarily a racist term moreso a personal attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not for nothing, but Douglas shouldn't have been threatening Smith with violence. that's pretty frowned upon in the work place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 "uncle Tom" isn't necessarily a racist term moreso a personal attack House N____ is pretty racist though. I wouldn't call him a racist, just an ignorant crab ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Uncle Tom? I had to look that up. I have an uncle Tom. I wonder if he knows about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 House N____ is pretty racist though. I wouldn't call him a racist, just an ignorant crab ass. Michael Smith is a f'ing jerk though. I remember first seeing him on ESPN and he was getting super hyped and overly emotional because one of the commentators didnt agree with his point of view. It got to the point where the other two commentators were looking at him funny given how serious he got. My very first thought was "wow, this dude is acting like such a b__ch a_s n___ right now". Maybe Hugh got the same vibe, difference is I dont work for ESPN so I can say what I want lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 "uncle Tom" isn't necessarily a racist term moreso a personal attack Would Douglas have called him that if he wasn't black (or if Smith was black enough or something, as I guess Douglas sees it)? Seems unlikely. It's a term used towards certain people of your race, and to the best of this white guy's knowledge it's exclusively used with negative connotations. He should have called him Uncle Spermie. Sperm juice is white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Would Douglas have called him that if he wasn't black (or if Smith was black enough or something, as I guess Douglas sees it)? Seems unlikely. Sperm juice is white. Wait. Can someone verify that? I'm so confused. And a little nervous now, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Wait. Can someone verify that? I'm so confused. And a little nervous now, to be honest. Well, it's white enough, if you catch my load drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Would Douglas have called him that if he wasn't black (or if Smith was black enough or something, as I guess Douglas sees it)? Seems unlikely. It's a term used towards certain people of your race, and to the best of this white guy's knowledge it's exclusively used with negative connotations. He should have called him Uncle Spermie. Sperm juice is white. Not sure that it had to do with his contrast - the article said Smith refused to help him get up to the DJ stand. I think it had more to do with just throwing an insult. You know, like calling someone a T0m Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Michael Smith is a f'ing jerk though. I remember first seeing him on ESPN and he was getting super hyped and overly emotional because one of the commentators didnt agree with his point of view. It got to the point where the other two commentators were looking at him funny given how serious he got. My very first thought was "wow, this dude is acting like such a b__ch a_s n___ right now". Maybe Hugh got the same vibe, difference is I dont work for ESPN so I can say what I want lol. you just jogged my memory banks VTF, thank you for this I specifically remember a time where Michael Smith lost the last round on "Around the Horn" and started whining about the way Stat Boy never let him win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Perplexing how a book which almost single-handedly formed the abolitionist cause became so hated by the descendants of those who enjoy its success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Not sure that it had to do with his contrast - the article said Smith refused to help him get up to the DJ stand. I think it had more to do with just throwing an insult. You know, like calling someone a T0m Shane. That is a racist slur against the race of smug, pseudo-intellectual douchebags. Please don't use that term anymore. We like to run a nice, clean message forum here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 We like to run a nice, clean message forum here. Really Sperm? This is like a porn site for Jets addicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Really Sperm? This is like a porn site for Jets addicts. It's true, I taught myself to masturbate lefty when I joined this site so I could use my right hand to scroll through posts faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It's true, I taught myself to masturbate lefty when I joined this site so I could use my right hand to scroll through posts faster. I taught myself lefty so that it wouldn't get crooked And b/c I am getting married and needed to spice up my love life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 That is a racist slur against the race of smug, pseudo-intellectual douchebags. Please don't use that term anymore. We like to run a nice, clean message forum here. I can't even pretend to be an intellectual. Smug douchebag is accurate, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Also, when will we reach the point as a society where we can all agree to ignore the words that come out of drunk celebrities' mouths? They're drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Well, it's white enough, if you catch my load drift. So you're saying blaze orange is right out, if I understand you. Worrisome. At least consistency isn't an issue. About like Reddi-Whip, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It is as possible for Hugh Douglass to be racist as it is for me to give myself the clap. Ignorant and self defeating, yes. Racist? LOL not true. first he can be racist against anyone not black. then he can also be "racist" against blacks who he may perceive as not being really black. why do people automatically associate racism with being against black people only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Would Douglas have called him that if he wasn't black (or if Smith was black enough or something, as I guess Douglas sees it)? Seems unlikely. It's a term used towards certain people of your race, and to the best of this white guy's knowledge it's exclusively used with negative connotations. He should have called him Uncle Spermie. Sperm juice is white. Uncle Tom is used to ' personally vilify' any black person seen as acting or going completely Caucasian for personal gain or benefit. At least that's how it was taught to me. Had he called him a coin or as Rillo stated a " house ***" ( don't cringe lol) then it would've been another story all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not true. first he can be racist against anyone not black. then he can also be "racist" against blacks who he may perceive as not being really black. why do people automatically associate racism with being against black people only. The fact that the case against Paula Dean was thrown out because the judge stated a white person can't sue another white person for racial discrimination probably means you can't be racist against you own kind. Whatever sense that makes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Also, when will we reach the point as a society where we can all agree to ignore the words that come out of drunk celebrities' mouths? They're drunk. Some time after the nuclear holocaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not true. first he can be racist against anyone not black. then he can also be "racist" against blacks who he may perceive as not being really black. why do people automatically associate racism with being against black people only. are you saying that Douglass was slamming white people via proxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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