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Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in fourth could cost him job

Ryan, apparently consumed with winning a trophy of a Peanuts character, vaulted into the annals of dumb moves by putting Mark Sanchez into the fourth quarter of the Jets’ meaningless preseason 24-21 overtime win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez promptly suffered a shoulder injury that clouds the Jets’ quarterback situation. Comments (2) NEW YORK DAILY NEWS SUNDAY, AUGUST 25, 2013, 1:47 AM
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Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in the fourth quarter could ultimately cost him his job come January. 

 

Rex Ryan took ineptitude and incompetence to new heights with a boneheaded decision Saturday night that ultimately could seal his fate as the head coach of the Jets.

Ryan, apparently consumed with winning a trophy of a Peanuts character, vaulted into the annals of dumb moves by putting Mark Sanchez into the fourth quarter of the Jets’ meaningless preseason 24-21 overtime win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez promptly suffered a shoulder injury that clouds the Jets’ quarterback situation.

Ryan, whose transparent attempts to placate new general manager John Idzik for the past eight months have turned him into a sad shell of his former iconoclastic self, turned testy in his postgame press conference. When his predictable talking points were challenged, Ryan grew agitated.

He knows that he screwed up.

Ryan’s mismanagement may wind up being a fireable offense in January if Sanchez is out for an extended period of time. Sanchez underwent X-rays on Saturday night. He is scheduled for an MRI on Sunday.

“All week you’re talking about winning the game and competing,” Ryan said as if he were prepping for the Super Bowl. “It was my decision all the way.”

Earth to Rex: Winning the Snoopy Trophy is worthless.

Ryan’s decision was reckless, irresponsible and the latest example of a head coach who has made his fair share of botched in-game moves during his five-year tenure. Just ask Tim Tebow.

This one, however, put all the previous brutal calls to shame.

RELATED: GENO AWFUL, SANCHEZ POSSIBLY INJURED IN JETS' WIN OVER GIANTS

s.jpg ANDREW THEODORAKIS/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Mark Sanchez walks off the field with his shoulder wrapped up.

There was no logical reason to put Sanchez in the game.

 

It was even more maddening since Sanchez had essentially wrapped up the quarterback competition after Geno Smith’s three-interception implosion in the first half against the Giants.

It was apparent to everyone in North America that Smith simply isn’t ready to be the Week 1 starter. Sanchez was in line to start against the Buccaneers on Sept. 8.

Sanchez even appeared surprised when he was called into the game with 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. He scrambled to find his helmet and went in. Rather than put in Matt Simms, Ryan turned to his presumptive Week 1 starter. Make sense? Of course not.

“Why compete? Period,” Ryan said. “We’re there to win.”

So, why wasn’t the first-team offensive line out there with Sanchez? Why was he asked to play behind the backup line made up of rookies and guys who may not make the roster?

What was there to gain?

Ryan, not surprisingly, had no concrete answer.

“Injuries are part of the game,” Ryan said. “You can get hurt in practice. Obviously it never worked out the way we wanted it to.”

RELATED: MYERS: FOR JETS' STARTERS, OUTLOOK BLEAK

giants-jets.jpg COREY SIPKIN/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Sanchez lies on the ground after taking a brutal hit in the fourth quarter of a preseason game against the Giants.

That’s an understatement.

Ryan danced around a flurry of questions about his ill-advised decision, turning to the same company line about “fair” competitions that only exist in the minds of the Jets’ brain trust.

After Sanchez fumbled away a perfect shotgun snap from Stephen Peterman on his first drive, Ryan foolishly sent the veteran quarterback back for another series. Sanchez was drilled by defensive lineman Marvin Austin as he completed a 23-yard pass to Mohamed Massaquoi.

He writhed in pain as he grabbed his right shoulder/collar bone. After walking to the sideline, he took off his shoulder pads and got wrapped in ice. He disappeared into the locker room and wasn’t seen again.

“I understand being second-guessed and all that kind of stuff when an injury happens,” Ryan said. “Certainly understand that. But that’s football.”

Ryan maintained that he “would not have put Mark in there if it wasn’t important,” but the rest of the free world knew that it was garbage time in a meaningless preseason game.

Ryan has turned into a coach so afraid to disappoint his deliberate new GM that he has abandoned all his instincts as a football lifer. There was no reason to play Sanchez with a bunch of scrubs after it became apparent at halftime that Smith needed more seasoning and wouldn’t win the quarterback competition.

Ryan remained stubborn and refused to answer when the Jets would name a starting quarterback or if the competition would continue to the final preseason game Thursday against the Eagles. It was a no-brainer that Sanchez had outplayed Smith in the preseason, but Ryan stuck to his vague statements.

Ryan turned downright childish when asked whether Smith still had a chance to win the competition, turning sideways and spinning around to illustrate a point that he never actually made. Before long, Ryan’s public relations director channeled his inner Drew Rosenhaus: “Next question.”

It was an embarrassing scene for a coach who should be embarrassed for potentially ruining his team’s season with one absurd decision.



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Maybe it's from having had to watch all of the other coaches they've had over the past 25 years, but I still like Rex.  So  much better than Mangini/Edwards/Groh/Kotite/Coslet/Walton...ugh.  If MM can get the offense to be decent, they can be good enough on defense to be a lot better than a lot of fans are anticipating.

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Rex Ryan decision to put Mark Sanchez in game reckless coaching move Why take the risk of putting your presumed Week 1 starter in a preseason game so late? There was nothing to gain. Ryan’s explanation was weak. He wanted to win the game. He wanted to continue Sanchez vs. Smith, filled with less drama than any quarterback controversy in the modern era of professional football. s.jpg
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Geno Smith shows he is not ready to be the Jets' starter, but may indeed be under center Week 1 because of Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in the fourth quarter. 

 

Geno Smith had lost the Jets’ starting quarterback job to Mark Sanchez in a dreadful audition against the Giants until Rex Ryan may have handed it right back to the rookie, who is clearly not ready to play, with a damaging rookie coaching mistake.

Smith was so bad against the Giants – three interceptions and then a safety when he stepped out of the back of the end zone – that Sanchez became the best alternative to start the season opener in two weeks against the Bucs, even if it was by default.

That’s why Ryan’s decision to put Sanchez in the game for the first time, behind the second-team offensive line, with 11:21 remaining in the fourth quarter of the Jets’ 24-21 overtime victory was a reckless coaching move.

Sanchez suffered an injury to his right shoulder on a huge hit from Marvin Austin, the Giants’ 312-pound defensive tackle, with 5:40 left in a meaningless game that, for some reason, Ryan had put a high priority on winning. Sanchez had an X-ray Saturday night and will have an MRI on Sunday. Ryan said he had no information on the severity of the injury, but if it’s anything serious, it will be a terrible reflection on Ryan.

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Why take the risk of putting your presumed Week 1 starter in a preseason game so late? There was nothing to gain. Ryan’s explanation was weak. He wanted to win the game. He wanted to continue Sanchez vs. Smith, filled with less drama than any quarterback controversy in the modern era of professional football.

“I understand being second-guessed and all that type of stuff when an injury happens,” Ryan said. “But that’s football.”

Even though Smith threw a touchdown pass on the Jets second possession, he was intercepted on the Jets’ fourth, fifth and seventh possessions – all in the first half – and in the fourth quarter stepped out of bounds in the back of the end zone for a safety as he was being chased by Mark Herzlich.

So how did he do?

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“I don’t do grades,” Smith said. “But overall I think this is just another learning experience for me. Lots of teaching tape.”

And lots of interceptions “They don’t need to be thrown,” Smith said. “Turnovers are never something that we want to do.”

Smith looked like a rookie who needs a lot more time in the classroom and practice field before he is allowed on the field in a game that counts.

He led the Jets on an early 86-yard touchdown drive, right after David Wilson had run for an 84-yard TD on the Giants’ first play. Smith was helped along by four consecutive penalties on the Giants’ defense. He then had plenty of time behind great protection and hit Ben Obomanu with a short pass that was turned into a 23-yard touchdown.

 

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Maybe it's from having had to watch all of the other coaches they've had over the past 25 years, but I still like Rex.  So  much better than Mangini/Edwards/Groh/Kotite/Coslet/Walton...ugh.  If MM can get the offense to be decent, they can be good enough on defense to be a lot better than a lot of fans are anticipating.

I completely agree.

Who's the option? Darrell Bevell? Would anyone have ever heard of him if he didn't have Russell Wilson at QB? Would anyone be questioning Rex's ability to coach if he had Russell Wilson?

People are gonna miss Rex sooner than they think if/when Idzik fires him. There are a lot worse coaches out there, only they don't say things.

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Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in fourth could cost him job

Ryan, apparently consumed with winning a trophy of a Peanuts character, vaulted into the annals of dumb moves by putting Mark Sanchez into the fourth quarter of the Jets’ meaningless preseason 24-21 overtime win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez promptly suffered a shoulder injury that clouds the Jets’ quarterback situation. Comments (2) NEW YORK DAILY NEWS SUNDAY, AUGUST 25, 2013, 1:47 AM
s.jpg ANDREW THEODORAKIS/ NEW YORK DAILY NEWS  

Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in the fourth quarter could ultimately cost him his job come January. 

 

Rex Ryan took ineptitude and incompetence to new heights with a boneheaded decision Saturday night that ultimately could seal his fate as the head coach of the Jets.

Ryan, apparently consumed with winning a trophy of a Peanuts character, vaulted into the annals of dumb moves by putting Mark Sanchez into the fourth quarter of the Jets’ meaningless preseason 24-21 overtime win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez promptly suffered a shoulder injury that clouds the Jets’ quarterback situation.

Ryan, whose transparent attempts to placate new general manager John Idzik for the past eight months have turned him into a sad shell of his former iconoclastic self, turned testy in his postgame press conference. When his predictable talking points were challenged, Ryan grew agitated.

He knows that he screwed up.

Ryan’s mismanagement may wind up being a fireable offense in January if Sanchez is out for an extended period of time. Sanchez underwent X-rays on Saturday night. He is scheduled for an MRI on Sunday.

“All week you’re talking about winning the game and competing,” Ryan said as if he were prepping for the Super Bowl. “It was my decision all the way.”

Earth to Rex: Winning the Snoopy Trophy is worthless.

Ryan’s decision was reckless, irresponsible and the latest example of a head coach who has made his fair share of botched in-game moves during his five-year tenure. Just ask Tim Tebow.

This one, however, put all the previous brutal calls to shame.

RELATED: GENO AWFUL, SANCHEZ POSSIBLY INJURED IN JETS' WIN OVER GIANTS

s.jpg ANDREW THEODORAKIS/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Mark Sanchez walks off the field with his shoulder wrapped up.

There was no logical reason to put Sanchez in the game.

 

It was even more maddening since Sanchez had essentially wrapped up the quarterback competition after Geno Smith’s three-interception implosion in the first half against the Giants.

It was apparent to everyone in North America that Smith simply isn’t ready to be the Week 1 starter. Sanchez was in line to start against the Buccaneers on Sept. 8.

Sanchez even appeared surprised when he was called into the game with 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. He scrambled to find his helmet and went in. Rather than put in Matt Simms, Ryan turned to his presumptive Week 1 starter. Make sense? Of course not.

“Why compete? Period,” Ryan said. “We’re there to win.”

So, why wasn’t the first-team offensive line out there with Sanchez? Why was he asked to play behind the backup line made up of rookies and guys who may not make the roster?

What was there to gain?

Ryan, not surprisingly, had no concrete answer.

“Injuries are part of the game,” Ryan said. “You can get hurt in practice. Obviously it never worked out the way we wanted it to.”

RELATED: MYERS: FOR JETS' STARTERS, OUTLOOK BLEAK

giants-jets.jpg COREY SIPKIN/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Sanchez lies on the ground after taking a brutal hit in the fourth quarter of a preseason game against the Giants.

That’s an understatement.

Ryan danced around a flurry of questions about his ill-advised decision, turning to the same company line about “fair” competitions that only exist in the minds of the Jets’ brain trust.

After Sanchez fumbled away a perfect shotgun snap from Stephen Peterman on his first drive, Ryan foolishly sent the veteran quarterback back for another series. Sanchez was drilled by defensive lineman Marvin Austin as he completed a 23-yard pass to Mohamed Massaquoi.

He writhed in pain as he grabbed his right shoulder/collar bone. After walking to the sideline, he took off his shoulder pads and got wrapped in ice. He disappeared into the locker room and wasn’t seen again.

“I understand being second-guessed and all that kind of stuff when an injury happens,” Ryan said. “Certainly understand that. But that’s football.”

Ryan maintained that he “would not have put Mark in there if it wasn’t important,” but the rest of the free world knew that it was garbage time in a meaningless preseason game.

Ryan has turned into a coach so afraid to disappoint his deliberate new GM that he has abandoned all his instincts as a football lifer. There was no reason to play Sanchez with a bunch of scrubs after it became apparent at halftime that Smith needed more seasoning and wouldn’t win the quarterback competition.

Ryan remained stubborn and refused to answer when the Jets would name a starting quarterback or if the competition would continue to the final preseason game Thursday against the Eagles. It was a no-brainer that Sanchez had outplayed Smith in the preseason, but Ryan stuck to his vague statements.

Ryan turned downright childish when asked whether Smith still had a chance to win the competition, turning sideways and spinning around to illustrate a point that he never actually made. Before long, Ryan’s public relations director channeled his inner Drew Rosenhaus: “Next question.”

It was an embarrassing scene for a coach who should be embarrassed for potentially ruining his team’s season with one absurd decision.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-reckless-rex-mark-play-sanchez-fourth-article-1.1436396#ixzz2cyErCjZY

 

 

Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in fourth could cost him job

Ryan, apparently consumed with winning a trophy of a Peanuts character, vaulted into the annals of dumb moves by putting Mark Sanchez into the fourth quarter of the Jets’ meaningless preseason 24-21 overtime win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez promptly suffered a shoulder injury that clouds the Jets’ quarterback situation. Comments (2) NEW YORK DAILY NEWS SUNDAY, AUGUST 25, 2013, 1:47 AM
s.jpg ANDREW THEODORAKIS/ NEW YORK DAILY NEWS  

Rex Ryan's decision to play Mark Sanchez in the fourth quarter could ultimately cost him his job come January. 

 

Rex Ryan took ineptitude and incompetence to new heights with a boneheaded decision Saturday night that ultimately could seal his fate as the head coach of the Jets.

Ryan, apparently consumed with winning a trophy of a Peanuts character, vaulted into the annals of dumb moves by putting Mark Sanchez into the fourth quarter of the Jets’ meaningless preseason 24-21 overtime win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Sanchez promptly suffered a shoulder injury that clouds the Jets’ quarterback situation.

Ryan, whose transparent attempts to placate new general manager John Idzik for the past eight months have turned him into a sad shell of his former iconoclastic self, turned testy in his postgame press conference. When his predictable talking points were challenged, Ryan grew agitated.

He knows that he screwed up.

Ryan’s mismanagement may wind up being a fireable offense in January if Sanchez is out for an extended period of time. Sanchez underwent X-rays on Saturday night. He is scheduled for an MRI on Sunday.

“All week you’re talking about winning the game and competing,” Ryan said as if he were prepping for the Super Bowl. “It was my decision all the way.”

Earth to Rex: Winning the Snoopy Trophy is worthless.

Ryan’s decision was reckless, irresponsible and the latest example of a head coach who has made his fair share of botched in-game moves during his five-year tenure. Just ask Tim Tebow.

This one, however, put all the previous brutal calls to shame.

RELATED: GENO AWFUL, SANCHEZ POSSIBLY INJURED IN JETS' WIN OVER GIANTS

s.jpg ANDREW THEODORAKIS/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Mark Sanchez walks off the field with his shoulder wrapped up.

There was no logical reason to put Sanchez in the game.

 

It was even more maddening since Sanchez had essentially wrapped up the quarterback competition after Geno Smith’s three-interception implosion in the first half against the Giants.

It was apparent to everyone in North America that Smith simply isn’t ready to be the Week 1 starter. Sanchez was in line to start against the Buccaneers on Sept. 8.

Sanchez even appeared surprised when he was called into the game with 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. He scrambled to find his helmet and went in. Rather than put in Matt Simms, Ryan turned to his presumptive Week 1 starter. Make sense? Of course not.

“Why compete? Period,” Ryan said. “We’re there to win.”

So, why wasn’t the first-team offensive line out there with Sanchez? Why was he asked to play behind the backup line made up of rookies and guys who may not make the roster?

What was there to gain?

Ryan, not surprisingly, had no concrete answer.

“Injuries are part of the game,” Ryan said. “You can get hurt in practice. Obviously it never worked out the way we wanted it to.”

RELATED: MYERS: FOR JETS' STARTERS, OUTLOOK BLEAK

giants-jets.jpg COREY SIPKIN/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Sanchez lies on the ground after taking a brutal hit in the fourth quarter of a preseason game against the Giants.

That’s an understatement.

Ryan danced around a flurry of questions about his ill-advised decision, turning to the same company line about “fair” competitions that only exist in the minds of the Jets’ brain trust.

After Sanchez fumbled away a perfect shotgun snap from Stephen Peterman on his first drive, Ryan foolishly sent the veteran quarterback back for another series. Sanchez was drilled by defensive lineman Marvin Austin as he completed a 23-yard pass to Mohamed Massaquoi.

He writhed in pain as he grabbed his right shoulder/collar bone. After walking to the sideline, he took off his shoulder pads and got wrapped in ice. He disappeared into the locker room and wasn’t seen again.

“I understand being second-guessed and all that kind of stuff when an injury happens,” Ryan said. “Certainly understand that. But that’s football.”

Ryan maintained that he “would not have put Mark in there if it wasn’t important,” but the rest of the free world knew that it was garbage time in a meaningless preseason game.

Ryan has turned into a coach so afraid to disappoint his deliberate new GM that he has abandoned all his instincts as a football lifer. There was no reason to play Sanchez with a bunch of scrubs after it became apparent at halftime that Smith needed more seasoning and wouldn’t win the quarterback competition.

Ryan remained stubborn and refused to answer when the Jets would name a starting quarterback or if the competition would continue to the final preseason game Thursday against the Eagles. It was a no-brainer that Sanchez had outplayed Smith in the preseason, but Ryan stuck to his vague statements.

Ryan turned downright childish when asked whether Smith still had a chance to win the competition, turning sideways and spinning around to illustrate a point that he never actually made. Before long, Ryan’s public relations director channeled his inner Drew Rosenhaus: “Next question.”

It was an embarrassing scene for a coach who should be embarrassed for potentially ruining his team’s season with one absurd decision.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-reckless-rex-mark-play-sanchez-fourth-article-1.1436396#ixzz2cyErCjZY

 

 

 

 

 

Manish ludicrous again.  Idzik does not care if Sanchez got hurt.  Idzik would have cut him if he could.  REx will be fired after the season (unless Geno is 8-8) because he was forced on Idzik.  As for the decision, well, Rex IS  a boob.

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Maybe it's from having had to watch all of the other coaches they've had over the past 25 years, but I still like Rex. So much better than Mangini/Edwards/Groh/Kotite/Coslet/Walton...ugh. If MM can get the offense to be decent, they can be good enough on defense to be a lot better than a lot of fans are anticipating.

This is the "which candidate would you rather sit down and have a beer with?" question that gets asked every election cycle. People who back Rex are simply not being objective about Rex. They like Rex because he's a good ol' boy.

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This is the "which candidate would you rather sit down and have a beer with?" question that gets asked every election cycle. People who back Rex are simply not being objective about Rex. They like Rex because he's a good ol' boy.

Nope, I like Rex because of his pedigree and feel like he's done a lot given the players he's had at his disposal.  He has a better resume than just about any other guy we'd bring in to replace him, and if he had a decent QB and or #2CB in years 1&2, I think this team would have gone to the SB.  Plenty of Jets fans however, hate Rex because they watch so much ESPN and youtube, that they're all (in their own minds) more qualified than Rex.  I disagree.

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Nope, I like Rex because of his pedigree and feel like he's done a lot given the players he's had at his disposal. He has a better resume than just about any other guy we'd bring in to replace him, and if he had a decent QB and or #2CB in years 1&2, I think this team would have gone to the SB. Plenty of Jets fans however, hate Rex because they watch so much ESPN and youtube, that they're all (in their own minds) more qualified than Rex. I disagree.

I hate Rex because Rex has been the #1 or #1a reason that this team has been driven straight into the ground. If you want to give him a pass because he has no talent, tell me which players he's developed in four years as coach. Kyle Wilson?

As for his pedigree, he was the defensive coordinator for the Ravens, where that defense was historically great under Marvin Lewis, then Mike Nolan, then Rex, then was still great under Chuck Pagano. We give Rex credit for that Ravens D because Rex acts like he built that Ravens D. He did not.

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This is the "which candidate would you rather sit down and have a beer with?" question that gets asked every election cycle. People who back Rex are simply not being objective about Rex. They like Rex because he's a good ol' boy.

 

It's the people who call Rex an idiot, clueless, etc., that aren't being very objective. That's an emotional and/or ignorant rant. Rex, at the very least, is one of the very best defensive coordinators in the NFL. That's his floor, and that's a major asset. Especially when you consider that the Jets' three previous head coaches weren't even qualified to be coordinators in the NFL.

 

He's certainly flawed as a head coach, but I guarantee you that your Idzik in shining armor is learning a lot about football just being around Rex.

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It's the people who call Rex an idiot, clueless, etc., that aren't being very objective. That's an emotional and/or ignorant rant. Rex, at the very least, is one of the very best defensive coordinators in the NFL. That's his floor, and that's a major asset. Especially when you consider that the Jets' three previous head coaches weren't even qualified to be coordinators in the NFL.

He's certainly flawed as a head coach, but I guarantee you that your Idzik in shining armor is learning a lot about football just being around Rex.

All true, but so was Dom Capers.

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I hate Rex because Rex has been the #1 or #1a reason that this team has been driven straight into the ground. If you want to give him a pass because he has no talent, tell me which players he's developed in four years as coach. Kyle Wilson?

As for his pedigree, he was the defensive coordinator for the Ravens, where that defense was historically great under Marvin Lewis, then Mike Nolan, then Rex, then was still great under Chuck Pagano. We give Rex credit for that Ravens D because Rex acts like he built that Ravens D. He did not.

I didn't say he had no talent, but he got as much as could have been expected considering the talent he had.  That's what I want in a head coach.  A guy who can get the most out of his team.  Last season was a disaster because he had little to no talent on offense, and took his team as far as a young QB and questionable secondary could go in his first two years.  His defenses have been good everywhere he's been.  You want to pretend that he just keeps walking in to good situations and has nothing to do with their success because you don't like him and you allow emotion to ignore reality.  Is he perfect?  Hell fekkin NO.  He should have benched Sanchez way earlier last season, and he should have cut ties with Schotty a season or two sooner.  Like I said, he's not perfect, but he's better than any unemployed coaches out there now.

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And here's a fine example of why our fan base is the worst (and dumbest) in all of sports.

TWO DAYS AGO: "Cut Sanchez! Start Geno! Start McElroy! Start Simms! Trade for <insert random QB name here> ! Start anybody but Sanchez!!!!!!!!"

NOW, AFTER SANCHEZ'S INJURY: "Fire Rex for making Sanchez the backup QB, and then playing him late (something EVERY coach does late in preseason games), and getting him injured!!!!"

You can't make this sh*t up.

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I didn't say he had no talent, but he got as much as could have been expected considering the talent he had.

From "Unforgiven": Clint Eastwood (as Will Munny) shoots the bar owner...

Gene Hackman: "You just shot an unarmed man!"

Clint: "Well, he shoulda armed himself."

That's what I want in a head coach. A guy who can get the most out of his team.

Getting the most out of "his" team is a full time job. He has to work to build "his" team and develop "his" players. Rex doesn't parachute in on game days like some coach running a pick-up game down at the Y. The team is bad because Rex helped Tannenbaum make it bad.

[ Last season was a disaster because he had little to no talent on offense, and took his team as far as a young QB and questionable secondary could go in his first two years. His defenses have been good everywhere he's been.

He did a good job the first year, a great job the second year, then the team disintegrated as it does with all player's coaches. He lost his authority, the team stopped responding to his buddy-buddy message, and now he's in a death spiral. All player's coaches eventually learn that your employees are not your friends, and that any sway you hold over them by being popular lasts about 11 minutes.

You want to pretend that he just keeps walking in to good situations and has nothing to do with their success because you don't like him and you allow emotion to ignore reality.

Reality? Rex's team has gotten progressively worse as more and more of the previous regime's players have fallen off the roster. That's the reality.

He should have benched Sanchez way earlier last season, and he should have cut ties with Schotty a season or two sooner.

When he cut ties with Schottenheimer, he ran right out and hired Tony Sparano.

Like I said, he's not perfect, but he's better than any unemployed coaches out there now.

He might not be as good as Brian Billick and Jim Fassel.

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From "Unforgiven": Clint Eastwood (as Will Munny) shoots the bar owner...

Gene Hackman: "You just shot an unarmed man

Clint: "Well, he shoulda armed himself."

Getting the most out of "his" team is a full time job. He has to work to build "his" team and develop "his" players. Rex doesn't parachute in on game days like some coach running a pick-up game down at the Y. The team is bad because Rex helped Tannenbaum make it bad.

He did a good job the first year, a great job the second year, then the team disintegrated as it does with all player's coaches. He lost his authority, the team stopped responding to his buddy-buddy message, and now he's in a death spiral. All player's coaches eventually learn that your employees are not your friends, and that any sway you hold over them by being popular lasts about 11 minutes.

Reality? Rex's team has gotten progressively worse as more and more of the previous regime's players have fallen off the roster. That's the reality.

When he cut ties with Schottenheimer, he ran right out and hired Tony Sparano.

He might not be as good as Brian Billick and Jim Fassel.

Bilick was an offensive guy and drafted about three dozen QBs and couldn't get a damn thing out of them. He won a SB because he lucked in to the best defense I've ever seen in my life. Fassel can't get a job anywhere because he's apparently an alcoholic.  I'll take Rex.  JMO.

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Bilick was an offensive guy and drafted about three dozen QBs and couldn't get a damn thing out of them. He won a SB because he lucked in to the best defense I've ever seen in my life. Fassel can't get a job anywhere because he's apparently an alcoholic. I'll take Rex. JMO.

True and true. But, like them, Rex is limited as a leader and has personality defects that hurt him badly as a head coach.

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I believe the outrage with Rex is the fact that he cared to actually try to win that game last night, so much so, that he left Sanchez out there - who it was quite obvious we may need - behind a garbage O-line

 

It's not about Rex demoting Sanchez, and then getting him hurt. It's about Rex's inability to prioritize things like a logical head coach would.

 

I feel bad for Sanchez that he got hurt, hopefully it's not serious.

 

I feel outraged that this clown of a coach of ours makes AWFUL decisions routinely. That IS the bigger issue at hand here. 

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I believe the outrage with Rex is the fact that he cared to actually try to win that game last night, so much so, that he left Sanchez out there - who it was quite obvious we may need - behind a garbage O-line

 

It's not about Rex demoting Sanchez, and then getting him hurt. It's about Rex's inability to prioritize things like a logical head coach would.

 

I feel bad for Sanchez that he got hurt, hopefully it's not serious.

 

I feel outraged that this clown of a coach of ours makes AWFUL decisions routinely. That IS the bigger issue at hand here. 

 

Meanwhile, the coach on the other side of the field saw fit to send a preseason game into OT.

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Even though Rex made the dumbest decision of his career, maybe we just had our Alex Smith moment and Simms may light it up? (closes eyes, crosses fingers)

What sucks is that this organization is so dumb, and so stuck in their thinking, that they have let multiple game changing practice squad FA's walk off the team in recent years. I doubt Simms even sees a second. Geno will start ifSanchez is hurt, even though we only took him on pure value never intending to get our franchise QB but he's already been annointed the next Russell Wilson.

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FWIW, I don't really blame Rex for playing Mark in that spot. I do think it was dumb to play Geno as long as he did, though. It was clear that Geno wasn't ready to play, and no amount of success vs the Giants' backups was going to change that. Mark should have started the third.

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What happens if Rex left in the first team OL and they get hurt? Also, the reporters point about the competition is wrong. Idzik said it was his decision too, so Rex could never make that call last night anyway. This is one problem with your GM naming your starting QB.

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