Green Jets & Ham Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 If the second half of last season {post season included} was not an abberation, but an indication that Jason Giambi has indeed regained his Groove, that would allow Joe Torre to draw-up a lineup that would be an opposing managers worst nightmare It would make it IMPOSSIBLE for opposing managers to use their bullpen effectively verses the Yankees in terms of righty/lefty matchups Again, at first glance it would appear nuts to bat Gary Sheffield 6th, but Giambi was actually our BEST HITTER for most of the second half and into the post season, so if that is NOT an abberation this lineup is not nearly as crazy as it seems ... and the upside of breaking up the lefties and righties from 1 thru 9 would be enormous ... that makes it worth it lastly, I have Cano hitting ahead of Posada and Williams for one simple reason ... he may be young, but he's a better hitter in my view ... and he only figures to keep getting better CF Johnny Damon {L} SS Derek Jeter {R} LF Hideki Matsui {L} 3B Alex Rodriguez {R} 1B Jason Giambi {L} RF Gary Sheffield {R} 2B Robby Cano {L} C Jorge Posada {S} DH Bernie Williams {S} If we deploy this lineup, the opposing manager can only call on a lefty or a righty to have the matchup advantage for ONE HITTER ... no matter where or when he calls on the pen ... ONE HITTER, then he's at the disadvantage ... either that, or the opposing manager can deplete his pen at warpped speed ... pick your poison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 That is one sick lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Pitching is the key. Pitchers stay off the DL, the Yanks cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Pitching is the key. Pitchers stay off the DL, the Yanks cruise. Good call Bob. The Yanks added one bat to a already All-Star filled line-up. This allows them to murder the weak teams of the AL. The key though will remain in the Pavano's , Wrights, Mussina's staying healthy, Chacon being as good as he showed last season along with the new bullpen guys handling NY. If I am the Yanks, I look to add a "sure thing" to the starting staff. While they have the names to be brilliant, there are too many injury/age concerns. Mets staff has the same problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Good call Bob. The Yanks added one bat to a already All-Star filled line-up. This allows them to murder the weak teams of the AL. The key though will remain in the Pavano's , Wrights, Mussina's staying healthy, Chacon being as good as he showed last season along with the new bullpen guys handling NY. If I am the Yanks, I look to add a "sure thing" to the starting staff. While they have the names to be brilliant, there are too many injury/age concerns. Mets staff has the same problems. The problem is that there is no such thing as a "sure thing" when dealing with pitching. If Randy could not handle it, and Clemens needed time also, no pitcher is a sure thing these days. Last year, would you have believed me if I told you Shaun Chacon was a sure thing? He was as close as could be, looking back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Good call Bob. The Yanks added one bat to a already All-Star filled line-up. This allows them to murder the weak teams of the AL. The key though will remain in the Pavano's , Wrights, Mussina's staying healthy, Chacon being as good as he showed last season along with the new bullpen guys handling NY. If I am the Yanks, I look to add a "sure thing" to the starting staff. While they have the names to be brilliant, there are too many injury/age concerns. Mets staff has the same problems. Agreed for the most part. However, the Yanks didnt lose in the playoffs last year because of their pitching. They couldnt get a clutch hit to save their lives. Damon completely changes the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 GJ&H; Good thread. If Giambi is the Giambi of the last 4 months of 2005, the Ynakees have the best lineup in Baseball. No questions asked!! Personally, I bat Giambi 3rd, followed by A-Rod, Matsui, Sheff. But I am waffling here, and have changed my mind several times the past few days. I believe though, that there is no way to mess this up. After Damon and Jeter, put those 4 guys together, in whatever sequence. Keep Cano, Posada, and the Bernie/Phillips combo in the bottom third. Devastation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 The Yankees are making a big mistake if they have Sheffield playing 140+ games in right field. ERIC BYRNES - Was nontendered by the Orioles. Pick him up. Put him in right field, make Sheffield the full-time DH. Or at least limit Sheffield to 50 games in right field. Byrnes is an all out hustler, who is a good defensive player. He brings alot of energy. Byrnes also had a good season in 04' with 20home runs. A .283 batting average. 17 stolen bases. 91 runs scored and a .347 OBP. Byrnes + Sheffield > Williams + Sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 Byrnes + Sheffield > Williams + Sheffield I wouldn't mind adding Byrnes to replace Crosby as a part-time OF verses lefties, but I would only start him verses lefties cause he's a brutal hitter verses righties, but a much better hitter verses lefties VS LEFTIES ========== CF Johnny Damon {L} SS Derek Jeter {R} LF Hideki Matsui {L} 3B Alex Rodriguez {R} 1B Jason Giambi {L} DH Gary Sheffield {R} C Jorge Posada {S} 2B Robby Cano {L} RF Eric Byrnes {R} Or sometimes you can give Giambi a blow, start Phillips at 1B, DH Giambi, bench Byrnes, and start Shef in RF Or if you want to give Shef or Giambi a complete day off, Just DH Bernie that day There's no doubt about it, EB, Byrnes would give us a ton of options ... he'd be a valuable role player who allows the older vets to stay fresh for 162 ... and I absolutely view Byrnes as an upgrade over Crosby for that role VS RIGHTIES =========== CF Johnny Damon {L} SS Derek Jeter {R} LF Hideki Matsui {L} 3B Alex Rodriguez {R} 1B Jason Giambi {L} RF Gary Sheffield {R} 2B Robby Cano {L} C Jorge Posada {S} DH Bernie Williams {S} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Only 1 problem, ham. Bernie sucks vs right handed pitching (as a lefthanded hitter). Bern, IMO, can still be valuable if we only let him bat from the right side. Thats his best side. But I still like your plan, and I'd love for the Yankees to sign Byrnes. Didnt the Yankees try and trade for him sometime over these past few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Ham...there is no way Matsui is batting 3rd. I hear you about the lefty righty thing (breaking them up in the order). But you put your best hitter 3rd. There are several hitters better than Matsui on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Ham...there is no way Matsui is batting 3rd. I hear you about the lefty righty thing (breaking them up in the order). But you put your best hitter 3rd. There are several hitters better than Matsui on this team. Agree. It'll be A-Rod or Giambi.. But what about Sheff batting 3rd, followed by Giambi, A-Rod and Matsui? I know it is a slap at A-Rod to put him 5th, but I really like Giambi ahead of A-Rod, and since Damon and Jeter have speed, and will be on base a lot, I like Sheff up at that point. Should be interesting to see what works best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Pitching is the key. Pitchers stay off the DL, the Yanks cruise. Thanks for the stellar insight. Who woulda thought that pitching was such a big deal??? Screw pitching...the Yanks need more offense! BTW Ham, in what baseball vernacular is jucing up euphamistically called "regaining a groove" if thats the case...here is hoping Mike Lowell can "regain his groove too" The way I see it...MLB does too much "regaining your groove" testing. Like the crowd said in the Bad News Bears: Let them play! Let them play! Let them play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I think the key to this season is being, "Loosey Goosey". The Yankees historically have very little loosy goosieness about them because of their high payroll. They need to be loosey and goosey. The wins will follow. NOTE: If you have never had the misfortune of listening to Mad Dog on WFAN this will make no sense to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I think the key to this season is being, "Loosey Goosey". The Yankees historically have very little loosy goosieness about them because of their high payroll. They need to be loosey and goosey. The wins will follow. NOTE: If you have never had the misfortune of listening to Mad Dog on WFAN this will make no sense to you! Nyuk! Nuyk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 oh by the way, you spelled his name wrong: it is spelled Giambi* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 oh by the way, you spelled his name wrong: it is spelled Giambi* Make sure you start learn ing how to spell............... 3rd place. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Make sure you start learn ing how to spell............... 3rd place. :wink: the 3rd place? Is that where your wife wants me to give it to her from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 3rd place ? You give the Sox too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 the 3rd place? Is that where your wife wants me to give it to her from now on? You only can wish that you ever get anyone even close to what my wife is like. To say she is way out of your league is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 3rd place ? You give the Sox too much credit. I am still not impressed with the Birds pitching staff, now minus BJ Ryan. The Rays have the lineup to compete with the BoSox, but not the pitching staff either. But if some of the young kids get it together, the Bosox could slip to 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Giambi* is the key? He's only one of 8 starters making over 10 million a year. If any of the other 7 are worth their money, you'd think they could pick up the slack. Yeah, god forbid Giambi's* 'condition' returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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