Maxman Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Quite the surprise. Two week exempt list then most likely bye bye Brady Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I was just about to post this. Bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I wonder if his knee holds up. Love how he had time to heal and is better now that the Jets look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I wonder if his knee holds up. Love how he had time to heal and is better now that the Jets look good. I think his knees will hold up just fine enough to get in there in case something happens to Geno. This is probably Garrard sitting at home knowing that his knees can't hold up for 16 games, but now that he knows they don't have to he can collect a paycheck and mentor Geno and provide a better backup and spot start if need be. I also think this tells everyone all they need to know about the Jets realistically thinking of starting Simms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Wow, definitely surprising. I'm guessing they use the whole exemption time to get away with having an extra guy, especially since he's still allowed to practice during that time, and then send Quinn packing and active Garrard at that time. He probably won't even pass Simms on the depth chart in the immediate future, but if nothing else the one benefit he brings is a much better veteran presence to help Geno than either Quinn or Sanchez could ever dream of being. Plus with Sanchez now officially not coming back at all, I wouldn't be surprised if we never see him on the Jets' sideline again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think his knees will hold up just fine enough to get in their in case something happens to Geno. This is probably Garrard sitting at home knowing that his knees can't hold up for 16 games, but now that he knows they don't have to he can collect a paycheck and mentor Geno and provide a better backup and spot start if need be. I also think this tells everyone all they need to know about the Jets realistically thinking of starting Simms. that is definitely one possibility. the other is that Brady Quinn is just god-awful. Who ends up being the #2, Simms or Garrard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 #Idzik! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 that is definitely one possibility. the other is that Brady Quinn is just god-awful. Who ends up being the #2, Simms or Garrard? Probably Simms for the immediate future, as not only do the Jets need to evaluate Garrard's health, but he's been away from the game for a long time. There's definitely going to be some conditioning to be done plus lots of rust to work off and I think it's safe to assume Simms has a much better grasp on the playbook than Garrard. Garrard will probably eventually pass him, but until then he is an upgrade simply by providing a better version of what Quinn and Sanchez have been doing the past 5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Wow, definitely surprising. I'm guessing they use the whole exemption time to get away with having an extra guy, especially since he's still allowed to practice during that time, and then send Quinn packing and active Garrard at that time. He probably won't even pass Simms on the depth chart in the immediate future, but if nothing else the one benefit he brings is a much better veteran presence to help Geno than either Quinn or Sanchez could ever dream of being. Plus with Sanchez now officially not coming back at all, I wouldn't be surprised if we never see him on the Jets' sideline again. This This is surprising, and also a good move IMO. Indications are that the Jets, particularly Marty, are happy with Simms. Garrard is being brought in as a counsel, and kind of an extra coach to work with Smith. If Smith is injured, Simms will replace him, if Simms stinks the place up, Garrard will manage the O. I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 that is definitely one possibility. the other is that Brady Quinn is just god-awful. Who ends up being the #2, Simms or Garrard? Probably a little of both. From everything I've seen, Geno seems to be handling things well with just the mentor-ship of the coaches and players around him, but I guess we'll see when it comes time for the depth chart. I think the coaching staff like Garrard a lot and feel he can help Geno out in certain ways, but I also think that they believe he's an instant upgrade on their depth chart in case something does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 LOOKS LIKE IDZIK BLEW IT AGAIN U GUYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm not sure I see the point of this. He can't stay healthy and he hasn't thrown a pass in a game in years. If something were to happen to Geno due to injury or ineffectiveness, I don't have a lot of faith in either Simms or Quinn, but I have more in either of those guys than Garrard. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 ‘No regrets’: Garrard un-retires, signs with Jets By Brian Costello October 10, 2013 | 11:17am Modal Trigger David Garrard after a Jets offseason workout Photo: Bill Kostroun MORE ON: NEW YORK JETS Teams that could sign Mark Sanchez next year Jets' handling of Mark Sanchez was shameful Geno Smith no different after Falcons upset Babes, buttfumbles on Sanchez rollercoaster The Jets’ never-ending quarterback drama took another strange twist Thursday when the team announced veteran quarterback David Garrard had returned. Garrard had retired in May after signing with the team two months earlier because his surgically repaired left knee kept swelling up. Garrard will be placed on the exempt list for two games and then can be activated. “I was able to take the whole summer off and let my body heal,” Garrard said in comments distributed by the team. “I started training a couple of months ago and my knee feels great. I’m sitting at home, watching games thinking, ‘Why am I at home? Why am I doing this to myself? I didn’t want to have any regrets one day.” The Jets signed Garrard in the spring to compete with Mark Sanchez — and then Geno Smith — for the starting quarterback job. He didn’t even make it to OTAs, though, before his knee began acting up. Garrard has not played in the regular season since 2010, troubled by back and knee injuries. While on the exempt list, Garrard can practice and attend meetings, but he cannot play in games. “I reached out to Mr. Idzik,” Garrard said of the call he placed to Jets general manager John Idzik. “He has given me another chance, so it’s truly a blessing.” The Jets currently have three quarterbacks on their active roster: Smith, Matt Simms and Brady Quinn. If Garrard can prove he’s healthy in the next two weeks, the team likely will let Quinn go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Not sure what to make of this.. I don't see why they'd bring him in to be a glorified coach but pay him a players salary. You'd have to think if all they wanted him to do was mentor, they'd offer him an assitants gig and pay him far less. I think this means they view themselves as a contender and they want a legitimate backup if Geno goes down. It may also mean they'll kindly ask Sanchez to stay off the sidelines. Which would be harsh but understandable.. how many guys can Geno talk to after every series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I hope Quinn didn't sign a long term lease. How bad must this guy stink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Not sure what to make of this.. I don't see why they'd bring him in to be a glorified coach but pay him a players salary. You'd have to think if all they wanted him to do was mentor, they'd offer him an assitants gig and pay him far less. I think this means they view themselves as a contender and they want a legitimate backup if Geno goes down. It may also mean they'll kindly ask Sanchez to stay off the sidelines. Which would be harsh but understandable.. how many guys can Geno talk to after every series. It means that Quinn is VERY bad. Yeah, at this point I think they think they can compete. I think so to, as long as Smith continues to play the kind of game he did last week. He doesn't have to throw for 400 yards a game. Just don't turn the ball over, and make 4-5 clutch throws a game. BTW, if the stories are true about Sanchez going off on Idzik , I think you have seen the last of Sanchez on the sidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Y do we need a qb who couldn't make the offseason lol I don't know why we need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 #Idzik! TRUE BOSS Love this move, btw. Geno is going to need a mentor down the stretch and Sanchez or Quinn aren't it. Sanchez would do well to learn from Garrard about the journeyman lifestyle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Good insurance to have - as a coach on the sidelines and practice field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Not sure I understand the confusion by a lot of people here. He's not being brought in for on the field production, he's a mentor to Geno. After these first 5 games Geno is the guy and will remain the guy barring injury. If there's an injury, as others have said, you throw Simms or Garrard out there depending on how long Garrards had in the playbook. Regardless, the Jets didn't bring in Brunell to be a QB on the field and this is no different (only Garrard isn't here because he needs the money and he's a much better mentor for Geno, in my admittedly biased opinion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Oh my god idzik is doing better huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Good insurance to have - as a coach on the sidelines and practice field This. He's essentially an extra coach. Considering his excellence in the area of ball control during his time as a starter it's a very good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Not sure I understand the confusion by a lot of people here. He's not being brought in for on the field production, he's a mentor to Geno. After these first 5 games Geno is the guy and will remain the guy barring injury. If there's an injury, as others have said, you throw Simms or Garrard out there depending on how long Garrards had in the playbook. Regardless, the Jets didn't bring in Brunell to be a QB on the field and this is no different (only Garrard isn't here because he needs the money and he's a much better mentor for Geno, in my admittedly biased opinion). I don't buy it.. Quinn sucks but he's a healthy veteran. If the Jets are battling for a division and Geno gets hurt Matt Simms is not going in the game. I think Idzik may have new found optimism for our prospects as a playoff team and wants to have a legitimate option if Geno goes down. Quinn and Simms are cute if you view yourself as a rebuilding .500 team.. if you think you can make noise in January you have to have something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 David Garrard will be a good teacher and mentor to Geno Smith as a veteran qb to a rookie qb would be. This is a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Y do we need a qb who couldn't make the offseason lol I don't know why we need him IMO there is 0 downside to this move. He's supposed to be a real nice personable guy who will help Smith get through some of the obvious struggles he is having as a rookie. He is also a decent emergency QB. He is not here to compete with Smith. He's here to help Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I thought this was going to be an Onion article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I don't buy it.. Quinn sucks but he's a healthy veteran. If the Jets are battling for a division and Geno gets hurt Matt Simms is not going in the game. I think Idzik may have new found optimism for our prospects as a playoff team and wants to have a legitimate option if Geno goes down. Quinn and Simms are cute if you view yourself as a rebuilding .500 team.. if you think you can make noise in January you have to have something better. I see your point. As much as I love DG he hasn't played in a long, long time now though. I still see this as the same thing as bringing in Brunell for Sanchez. While I agree DG is better than Quinn, I don't think they reached out (though apparently he reached out to Idzik) for him to be a viable emergency option. If you think Geno is your future, have someone around to help mentor him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I guess "mentor" is the new catchword in the NFL. The idea of giving a young QB a veteran to talk to on the sidelines who does not report to the head coach and who really is no challenge to the kid's job. Calm the kid down, give him some advice. It's been done in the past for a long time but they never called them "mentors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I see your point. As much as I love DG he hasn't played in a long, long time now though. I still see this as the same thing as bringing in Brunell for Sanchez. While I agree DG is better than Quinn, I don't think they reached out (though apparently he reached out to Idzik) for him to be a viable emergency option. If you think Geno is your future, have someone around to help mentor him. yeah.. it's semantics but I just think the difference between DG and Brunell is they really think they'd be able to win with DG. the whole mentoring aspect will be an ancillary benefit to who they believe is a legitimately solid backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 No doubt DG is 100x the mentor to Geno and Simms than Brady Guinn is. If there's an extreme emergency and he can move at all - he's an experienced back up that won't have to come in to hand off the ball every snap. Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I like the move a lot, it can't hurt us is any way it could only help, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Silky Garrard in the hizzy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 yeah.. it's semantics but I just think the difference between DG and Brunell is they really think they'd be able to win with DG. the whole mentoring aspect will be an ancillary benefit to who they believe is a legitimately solid backup QB. Fair enough and agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I don't buy it.. Quinn sucks but he's a healthy veteran. If the Jets are battling for a division and Geno gets hurt Matt Simms is not going in the game. I think Idzik may have new found optimism for our prospects as a playoff team and wants to have a legitimate option if Geno goes down. Quinn and Simms are cute if you view yourself as a rebuilding .500 team.. if you think you can make noise in January you have to have something better. There's a guy on JI who called this yesterday, and the person that fed him the rumor said it was specifically because the Jets see themselves as a playoff team and wanted veteran insurance. So, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 At least we can all agree Brady Quinn sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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