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16.3 yds per catch and hes 22. That's whats to like about him.

 

If you can get this guy, who is ready to play tomorrow, you do it. As others have said, it's better than drafting a WR and having to wait a year for them to adapt to NFL.

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This would be awesome if it happens. Sounds like Cleveland wants to wait until the last minute so they can get the best possible deal for him. Its hard to even be mad about giving up a 2nd for him because he is so young and talented. If he was in the draft this year he would be a top 10 pick, easy.

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How's Geno Smith's pea-shooter of an arm looking these days, Mr. Scout?

 

I always maintained his arm strength was suffering from his bad mechanics(which it was). He's getting better every week. The deep balls he's been throwing have improved drastically.

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Kid's got a ton of talent but he's roach clip residue away from a one year, no expenses paid, vacation. 

 

You can argue so was/is Holmes, but I think this kid can actually be much more foolhardy than The Tone.

 

That in itself is frightening and grounds to stay away.

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Green Day: Deal or no deal?

October, 22, 2013

OCT 22

8:00

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By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

 

The 4-3 New York Jets are a surprise contender with a couple of glaring holes. The trading deadline is next Tuesday. Should they be buyers?

 

I say it's OK to shop, but be careful. As much as they could use a quality wide receiver, it doesn't make sense to overpay for a quick fix.

 

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The Cleveland Browns' Josh Gordon is the biggest name on the trading block. Three teams have contacted the Browns, two of which have made offers of a high pick and a player, ESPN Insider Adam Schefter reported Monday night. Gordon is gifted, but risky because he already has served a two-game suspension for substance abuse. He's one strike away from a year suspension

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Sure, Gordon's skill set would help the Jets, who have a productive receiver who is hurt (Santonio Holmes) and an unproductive receiver who's healthy (Stephen Hill). They also have a bargaining chip, knowing they will have two third-round picks in the 2014 draft (one from the Darrelle Revis trade). Even though you're not allowed to trade compensatory picks, the Jets know they probably will have a few of those in the bank in '14, which might make it easier to move other picks.

 

 

But I wouldn't expect general manager John Idzik to pull the trigger on any significant deals before the deadline. He's on a long-term plan, geared toward 2014, when there will be salary-cap room. He doesn't strike me as the kind of executive who will alter his plan on a whim.

 

 

What do you think? Should the Jets try to bolster their current roster with a significant move?

 

 

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I'll be stunned if this goes down.

 

Idzik just doesn't seem to be the type GM who is going to risk future high draft picks on a guy who probably isn't going to finish his contract with out being busted, and bring embarrassment to the franchise.

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Kid's got a ton of talent but he's roach clip residue away from a one year, no expenses paid, vacation. 

 

You can argue so was/is Holmes, but I think this kid can actually be much more foolhardy than The Tone.

 

That in itself is frightening and grounds to stay away.

 

You're taking a chance with any rookie WR you draft also. You can get a sense of their personality and off field activities but the risk is always there. At least with Gordon you know he can play and know to keep an eye on him.

 

Plus its probably boring as sh*t in Cleveland...can you blame him for smoking weed? haha I know being in NY can work against someone like him tho.

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The condition that determines whether Tampa gives up a 3 or a 4 shouldn't've been something as easy for Tampa to manipulate as him being on the roster one specific day. Tampa gave him a contract that makes it very easy to do.

#vilmapartdeux

 

That's a great theory if the player in question is not very marketable or has an intense sense of loyalty to the organization who looks to manipulate the system, however neither applies here.  Can you imagine the conversation?  Darrelle, we want to cut you so we can save 30 some odd spots with our mid round pick next year.  We still want you with the team, though.  Yeah, that will work.....not.

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I'll be stunned if this goes down.

Idzik just doesn't seem to be the type GM who is going to risk future high draft picks on a guy who probably isn't going to finish his contract with out being busted, and bring embarrassment to the franchise.

He brought in Ivory and Goodson, both of whom came with significant question marks. Likewise, if you look at Seattle's pickups the last few years, they didn't seem overly concerned about taking risks on a few guys.

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I'll be stunned if this goes down.

 

Idzik just doesn't seem to be the type GM who is going to risk future high draft picks on a guy who probably isn't going to finish his contract with out being busted, and bring embarrassment to the franchise.

 

I would be surprised to. The only way this goes down is if he really believes they can do something this year.

 

It would show his mentality has shifted to trying to win now rather than worry solely about 2014. If he can do it without completely killing our draft next year then I'm all for it.

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Exactly. Why smoke week in Cleveland when you can go to church in New York.

 

By go to church, I obviously mean take heroin and get shot.

 

lol I was just kidding man. But Cleveland has to be boring as sh*t.

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He brought in Ivory and Goodson, both of whom came with significant question marks. Likewise, if you look at Seattle's pickups the last few years, they didn't seem overly concerned about taking risks on a few guys.

 

That's a really good point. Someone with Gordon's talent, age and cap number - but no baggage would garner a lot more in compensation. Idzik likes buying low and selling high.

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That's a great theory if the player in question is not very marketable or has an intense sense of loyalty to the organization who looks to manipulate the system, however neither applies here.  Can you imagine the conversation?  Darrelle, we want to cut you so we can save 30 some odd spots with our mid round pick next year.  We still want you with the team, though.  Yeah, that will work.....not.

Who's outbidding Tampa for Revis if they try to pull the maneuver? What is their actual risk?

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Who's outbidding Tampa for Revis if they try to pull the maneuver? What is their actual risk?

 

Wouldnt he have to pass waivers though given he has years left on his contract? If so, and the Jets have Sanchez and Holmes off the books, what is stopping the Jets from putting in a claim? Also wondering the risk.

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He brought in Ivory and Goodson, both of whom came with significant question marks. Likewise, if you look at Seattle's pickups the last few years, they didn't seem overly concerned about taking risks on a few guys.

 

yes he did, but neither of these guys had been in any real trouble before.  Even Goodson, As far as I know was clean before he got here.  Their concerns were injury, and not much was given up for them.  A 4th for Ivory, mid rounder on a guy with good potential.   Probably not a guy who lmight explode in an embarrassing incident.

 

If they are involved in this, and I'm not sure they are, the offer might be Coples, and our 3rd?

 

I wouldn't pay it, and hope Idzik doesn't either.  Kid seems to be to self destructive 

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Wouldnt he have to pass waivers though given he has years left on his contract? If so, and the Jets have Sanchez and Holmes off the books, what is stopping the Jets from putting in a claim? Also wondering the risk.

The same thing that I suspect would stop 30 other teams from putting in a claim; his $16M/year contract.

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Who's outbidding Tampa for Revis if they try to pull the maneuver? What is their actual risk?

The Raiders, Colts, Bears, Redskins and the Jets all have copious cap space in 2014. If the Bucs screw around, any one of this teams could sweep in and offer some guaranteed money, as opposed to the cash-only deal Revis is on right now. It won't be $16 mil per, but the security might appeal. Revis as a UFA will draw a lot more suitors than Revis as an expensive trade target. How awesome would it be if the Bucs tried to game Revis by cutting him for a week, only to have him re-sign with the Jets?

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yes he did, but neither of these guys had been in any real trouble before. Even Goodson, As far as I know was clean before he got here. Their concerns were injury, and not much was given up for them. A 4th for Ivory, mid rounder on a guy with good potential. Probably not a guy who lmight explode in an embarrassing incident.

If they are involved in this, and I'm not sure they are, the offer might be Coples, and our 3rd?

I wouldn't pay it, and hope Idzik doesn't either. Kid seems to be to self destructive

I believe the rumored Jets offer is picks only, though trading Coples--who's a spare part right now--for a high-end skill position player would be interesting.

As far as imploding, who knows? Look at Brandon Marshall--that guy was as bad is it gets off the field and he's cleaned up nice in Chicago.

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Wouldnt he have to pass waivers though given he has years left on his contract? If so, and the Jets have Sanchez and Holmes off the books, what is stopping the Jets from putting in a claim? Also wondering the risk.

IIRC, Revis is essentially on a year-to-year deal that pays him $16 mil to be on the roster on opening day. No guarantees. If the Bucs cut him, he's a UFA.

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This guy is in his what..fourth year and we are just hearing about him? I wouldn't go higher than a fourth for him. Nelson, Hill and Kerley seem to be meshing nicely and if Holmes comes back it can only make it better. Gordon is ok, but I wouldn't go all in for him.

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This guy is in his what..fourth year and we are just hearing about him? I wouldn't go higher than a fourth for him. Nelson, Hill and Kerley seem to be meshing nicely and if Holmes comes back it can only make it better. Gordon is ok, but I wouldn't go all in for him.

 

2nd year and hes 22.

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