Rex Ryan: "We have the best draft class in the NFL!"

[SayNoToDMC]

So how come all but one of them suck right now

Teaching technique takes time, especially at corner. Kyle Wilson and Revis wherent successes overnight

[MatthewPLP]

You all love sexy rexxy...He's your daddy...He's not going anywhere anytime soon..We're going to the SB with him!

[jorge o8]

we got a couple good players and depth so not bad not bad at all but the best  not sure

[NJ]

Yes and Milliner is merely a off to a slow start.  LOL

 

Nothing slow about it - he's leaped himself into strong contention for the 2nd worst, under #10 overall pick this millennium. Nobody's going to steal that # 1 from Vernon G. and Marky did have 2 AFC Championship appearances under his reign.

[artemusclyde]

Nothing slow about it - he's leaped himself into strong contention for the 2nd worst, under #10 overall pick this millennium. Nobody's going to steal that # 1 from Vernon G. and Marky did have 2 AFC Championship appearances under his reign.

 

Wait are we talking just the Jets or the NFL as a whole. Cause the biggest bust draft honors belong to the Raiders with Jamarcus Russel.

[Smashmouth]

wow!!!.. i didn't think it was possible for you to recognize bad jets qb play

 

shut your filthy mouth

 

I did not like Geno as soon as he was picked but just like every other pick like it or not you have to give him a chance. He has simply looked terrible in every aspect of the position and thats not including his bad mechanics.

[neckdemon]

Wait are we talking just the Jets or the NFL as a whole. Cause the biggest bust draft honors belong to the Raiders with Jamarcus Russel.

 

 

jamarcus russell>>>>>>geno smith

[joewillie78]

 

jamarcus russell>>>>>>geno smith

 Unfortunately, this may actually be true, and if you look at Sanchez's numbers, he too is right there with Russell. Great scouting to even come up with 2 QB's that you even mention with Russell or Leaf.

[CTM]

shut your filthy mouth

 

I did not like Geno as soon as he was picked but just like every other pick like it or not you have to give him a chance. He has simply looked terrible in every aspect of the position and thats not including his bad mechanics.

 

 

Like Sanchez and Punkington and Ratliff and Simms and every other bad jet qb you loved

[Jacked4JetsFB]

The idea of grading a draft half way through season 1 is ludicrous for anyone, but especially for a HC. As fans it's cute to say this one is great, or that one sucks. For Mel Kiper it's entertaining to look back and see what he predicted and how it looks so far, but for a HC or a GM it's ludicrous and means nothing.

 

Sheldon looks like a long term stud, and if so, great. But if we whiffed on the rest of the draft in which we had 3 of the top 40 picks, in a position where we needed to fill holes in many, many places, while getting a stud in the only area we were already pretty stout, this will not turn out to have been a good draft and the "rebuild" will take longer than we thought.

 

On the other hand if Geno turns out to be a decent QB, which does not look likely right now, it will be a good draft. Grading it now for Rex is just stupid.

[HessStation]

"5 starters from the draft class"

This means 1, of 3 things.

1. He is taking a shot at Idzik, Tanny showing he has nothing else to work with, don't blame me if the cake taste like sh*t, I'm just cooking with the ingredients, and instructions I was given.

2. He is kissing Idzik's ass! Most likely scenario.

3. Because he loves S. Richardson so much, and the type of runner Ivory is, and possibly see's some potential for quality players developing like Winters, and Milliner, he actually believes this to be so. 2nd most likely scenario, close 2nd thou lol!

Or

4. He's a complete moron with no clue what else to say.

[Jetsfan80]

jamarcus russell>>>>>>geno smith

 

 

 

 Unfortunately, this may actually be true, and if you look at Sanchez's numbers, he too is right there with Russell. Great scouting to even come up with 2 QB's that you even mention with Russell or Leaf.

 

At least we only burned a 2nd rounder on Geno.  The Raiders were paying Jamarcus Russell old CBA top pick dollars for years and years.  Even in hindsight Geno was the right pick at that spot.  He isn't working out.....oh well.  We'll be able to move on very quickly from that.

[joewillie78]

 

At least we only burned a 2nd rounder on Geno.  The Raiders were paying Jamarcus Russell old CBA top pick dollars for years and years.  Even in hindsight Geno was the right pick at that spot.  He isn't working out.....oh well.  We'll be able to move on very quickly from that.

 All very valid points, and now with the new rookie wage scale, you can even "risk" a #1 on a QB, and not devastate your franchise like the Raiders did with Russell. The Jets devastation was self inflicted when they gave Sanchez that insane extension. Hopefully, they make the right QB choice this May.

[Jetsfan80]

 

 All very valid points, and now with the new rookie wage scale, you can even "risk" a #1 on a QB, and not devastate your franchise like the Raiders did with Russell. The Jets devastation was self inflicted when they gave Sanchez that insane extension. Hopefully, they make the right QB choice this May.

 

You keep drafting QB's till you find one, so the Geno pick shouldn't bother us like it is.  Nothing will turn a franchise around quicker than finding the next Andrew Luck.  Franchise QB's don't just produce for you.  They make the whole team better.  The 2011 Jets seemed to "quit" those final 3 weeks of the 2011 season at least in part because they didn't believe in their QB, and rightfully so.  We should have cut him the moment that Dolphins game ended in Week 17. 

 

The opposite end of that spectrum, having a true leader AND great player like a Peyton, Brees, Russell Wilson, Luck, or Rodgers.....it changes the culture of the entire organization. 

[MexiRoll6]

Wow, talk about kissing Idzik's butt. Is he that desperate to try and save his job. here's a suggestion REX: Try getting your pitiful team to score more than 6 points, instead of kissing the butt of the guy that is surely going to can you.

Or maybe it's something ELSE of Idzik's in Rex's mouth. Pitiful display of misplaced loyalty or sucking **** to keep his job. No sale Rex, you are still going to be an EX- Jets HC in about a month.

[MexiRoll6]

You keep drafting QB's till you find one, so the Geno pick shouldn't bother us like it is.  Nothing will turn a franchise around quicker than finding the next Andrew Luck.  Franchise QB's don't just produce for you.  They make the whole team better.  The 2011 Jets seemed to "quit" those final 3 weeks of the 2011 season at least in part because they didn't believe in their QB, and rightfully so.  We should have cut him the moment that Dolphins game ended in Week 17. 

 

The opposite end of that spectrum, having a true leader AND great player like a Peyton, Brees, Russell Wilson, Luck, or Rodgers.....it changes the culture of the entire organization. 

Except that there isn't a Luck out there this season. Marcus Mariota is returning to Oregon and the group of Bridgewater, McCarron, Manziel, etc according to Mel Kiper does NOT include a franchise QB. Typical Jets luck. Kiper said Jameis Winston would be the ONLY one to fall into the 'Luck' category and he is not available until 2015 - or never if indicted on rape charges.

[MexiRoll6]

Jets had the opportunity to take Wilson but passed. They decided that Stephen Hill was a BETTER option than a QB for a team with a starting QB on the downslide. Great move by Tanny-Rex. Rex has TWICE admitted failure 1 - he said he "failed to do right by the offense" and 2 - said he "lost the pulse of his team." BOTH of these statements are fireable offenses and hopefully John Idzik will pull the trigger quickly and end this charade of the Jets having a competent HC.

[Integrity28]

Or

4. He's a complete moron with no clue what else to say.

 

Winner.

[JerryK]

"...We'll coach 'em up"

 

When you hear this, your team is done.  The Lions staff said it weekly from 2002-2008.

Talent doesn't need to be 'coached up'.

[Integrity28]

Jets had the opportunity to take Wilson but passed. They decided that Stephen Hill was a BETTER option than a QB for a team with a starting QB on the downslide. Great move by Tanny-Rex. Rex has TWICE admitted failure 1 - he said he "failed to do right by the offense" and 2 - said he "lost the pulse of his team." BOTH of these statements are fireable offenses and hopefully John Idzik will pull the trigger quickly and end this charade of the Jets having a competent HC.

 

Your irrational vehemence accentuates how stupid your posts are. 

[stoicsentry]

We had a very good draft class that will still be helping this team many years down the road.

[joewillie78]

 

You keep drafting QB's till you find one, so the Geno pick shouldn't bother us like it is.  Nothing will turn a franchise around quicker than finding the next Andrew Luck.  Franchise QB's don't just produce for you.  They make the whole team better.  The 2011 Jets seemed to "quit" those final 3 weeks of the 2011 season at least in part because they didn't believe in their QB, and rightfully so.  We should have cut him the moment that Dolphins game ended in Week 17. 

 

The opposite end of that spectrum, having a true leader AND great player like a Peyton, Brees, Russell Wilson, Luck, or Rodgers.....it changes the culture of the entire organization.

Completely agree. The ONLY thing the JETS should be concerned with now is getting a franchise QB, thats it, for get all the other stuff, just get THE GUY at QB , and the rest takes care of itself. 

[joewillie78]

 

Except that there isn't a Luck out there this season. Marcus Mariota is returning to Oregon and the group of Bridgewater, McCarron, Manziel, etc according to Mel Kiper does NOT include a franchise QB. Typical Jets luck. Kiper said Jameis Winston would be the ONLY one to fall into the 'Luck' category and he is not available until 2015 - or never if indicted on rape charges.

 Maybe Kiper is right, maybe not BUT who cares, take one of them. You simply have to try. I was not interested in Mariota anyway, and this year I would gladly "settle" for Manziel, Bridgewater, McCarron,etc. and I notice that McShay now has BLAKE BORTLES at #14 on his board.

If the JETS do not select one of these guys and GENO is just as bad or worse (like Sanchez got), then we are subjected to scoring 6 points a game for another year? Please God, NOOOOOOOOO. Please take one and if you have a choice, take Johnny Football.

[neckdemon]

rex ryan has gone full retard

[Jacked4JetsFB]

rex ryan has gone full retard

 

I think hes been there for a while, but we did not want to believe it.

[BroadwayJoe12]

Except that there isn't a Luck out there this season. Marcus Mariota is returning to Oregon and the group of Bridgewater, McCarron, Manziel, etc according to Mel Kiper does NOT include a franchise QB. Typical Jets luck. Kiper said Jameis Winston would be the ONLY one to fall into the 'Luck' category and he is not available until 2015 - or never if indicted on rape charges.

 

Oh noez, Mel Kiper doesn't think there's a franchise QB in there and he's infallible! 

 

Jets had the opportunity to take Wilson but passed. They decided that Stephen Hill was a BETTER option than a QB for a team with a starting QB on the downslide. Great move by Tanny-Rex. Rex has TWICE admitted failure 1 - he said he "failed to do right by the offense" and 2 - said he "lost the pulse of his team." BOTH of these statements are fireable offenses and hopefully John Idzik will pull the trigger quickly and end this charade of the Jets having a competent HC.

 

You know where Kiper ranked Wilson? Behind Weeden, Osweiler and Cousins. So maybe you should just pump the breaks a bit on declaring there are no franchise QBs, just because Kiper and the other know-nothing talking heads said so.  Or, you could try having your own thoughts, instead of just spewing everything that they type and passing it along as fact. This is the biggest problem with these message boards, we have people who judge and rate players based on what these draftniks say, without every seeing a single snap that they actually play. 

[TehFalcon63]

Mexi, NO ONE in the draft is a guarantee. Look at Brady. Look at Kurt Warner. Now look at Sanchez. Look at Ryan Leaf.

 

Enough said.

[artemusclyde]

jamarcus russell>>>>>>geno smith

 

He was the number one pick in the draft and teams were willing to trade all of their picks for him. He's a way bigger bust then 2nd round Geno. Can a 2nd round draft pick even be a bust?

 

 

 

 Unfortunately, this may actually be true, and if you look at Sanchez's numbers, he too is right there with Russell. Great scouting to even come up with 2 QB's that you even mention with Russell or Leaf.

 

Sanchez is a big bust, but nowhere near as bad as Russell or Leaf.

[joewillie78]

 

He was the number one pick in the draft and teams were willing to trade all of their picks for him. He's a way bigger bust then 2nd round Geno. Can a 2nd round draft pick even be a bust?

 

 

 

Sanchez is a big bust, but nowhere near as bad as Russell or Leaf.

 To an extent, I agree but if you look at some of the key stats, like TQBR, QBR, points responsible for, points responsible for subtracting, and SANCHEZ is right there with Leaf and Russell. In my opinion, this is the list of LARGEST busts from worst to least:

1. Russell

2. Leaf

3. Sanchez

4. Ware

5. Couch

6. Marinovich

7. Leinert

8. Carr

9. George

10. Rob Johnson

Note to NFL GM's (4) Usc QB's in this top 10, and dont forget about other stalwarts like Calvin Peete, Pat Haden, and Matt Cassell.

You would have thought that REX and TANNS would have known this when selecting and trading up to take Sanchez.

[#27TheDominator]

Rob Johnson?  Wasn't he like a 5th round pick for the Jags?  Seems borderline crazy to list him there unless you are talking about somebody else.

[joewillie78]

 

Rob Johnson?  Wasn't he like a 5th round pick for the Jags?  Seems borderline crazy to list him there unless you are talking about somebody else.

 OK, your right, I just thought of someone to replace him at #10: GENO SMITH.

[joewillie78]

 

Rob Johnson?  Wasn't he like a 5th round pick for the Jags?  Seems borderline crazy to list him there unless you are talking about somebody else.

 Also, was basing it on that ridculous, like 5 years 35 million, Buffalo gave him and then cut him the next year to be replaced by the mighty JP LOSMAN. Wow.

[neckdemon]

He was the number one pick in the draft and teams were willing to trade all of their picks for him. He's a way bigger bust then 2nd round Geno. Can a 2nd round draft pick even be a bust?

 

 

 

Sanchez is a big bust, but nowhere near as bad as Russell or Leaf.

 

 

i didnt say anything about geno being a bigger bust than jamarcus russel. i said russel was better than geno

[joewillie78]

 

Rob Johnson?  Wasn't he like a 5th round pick for the Jags?  Seems borderline crazy to list him there unless you are talking about somebody else.

 Should we put David Klingler and Rex Grossman on the list?

[NJ]

Wait are we talking just the Jets or the NFL as a whole. Cause the biggest bust draft honors belong to the Raiders with Jamarcus Russel.

Just talking Jets dude ... but that in itself is an all star lineup.