77DRAFT Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Geno is good but with guys available at the position do the Jets pull the trigger and take a quarterback even though we need a TE, or receiver ? If we pick 15 or 16 and Football Johnny is still sitting int the front row do we call his name ? How about some of the other gun slingers ? Do we throw Geno under the bus and trade him to Cleveland next season when they need a qb at the deadline ? Geno is a number one guy and valuable in a trade, he's worth a 1 if you hold him to mid season, he has done enough and shown enough - -these last three games may determine the future of the position, even though the offensive line may keep the Jets out of the end zone if the play calling doesn't, if the O line plays well anything can happen. I have a gut feeling the Jets take a QB next April, 2 quarterbacks are better than one, ask Steve Young and Joe Montana. Edited December 13, 2013 by 77DRAFT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Geno is good but with guys available at the position do the Jets pull the trigger and take a quarterback even though we need a TE, or receiver ? If we pick 15 or 16 and Football Johnny is still sitting int the front row do we call his name ? How about some of the other gun slingers ? Do we throw Geno under the bus and trade him to Cleveland next season when they need a qb at the deadline ? Geno is a number one guy and valuable in a trade, he's worth a 1 if you hold him to mid season, he has done enough and shown enough - -these last three games may determine the future of the position, even though the offensive line may keep the Jets out of the end zone if the play calling doesn't, if the O line plays well anything can happen. I have a guy feeling the Jets take a QB next April, 2 quarterbacks are better than one, ask Steve Young and Joe Montana. Yes Yes Maybe No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 it's way too early but the way this is shaping up, Teddy goes 1. Johnny Football goes 2-6 (he won't get past Cleveland, wherever they end up). who is the 3rd best QB in this draft? It's unclear. I do think they take a QB but more likely in rd 3 than rd 1/2. I also think Geno will finish strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Bortles is interesting prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Geno is good but with guys available at the position do the Jets pull the trigger and take a quarterback even though we need a TE, or receiver ? If we pick 15 or 16 and Football Johnny is still sitting int the front row do we call his name ? How about some of the other gun slingers ? Do we throw Geno under the bus and trade him to Cleveland next season when they need a qb at the deadline ? Geno is a number one guy and valuable in a trade, he's worth a 1 if you hold him to mid season, he has done enough and shown enough - -these last three games may determine the future of the position, even though the offensive line may keep the Jets out of the end zone if the play calling doesn't, if the O line plays well anything can happen. I have a guy feeling the Jets take a QB next April, 2 quarterbacks are better than one, ask Steve Young and Joe Montana. You so cray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah what Jif said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Derek Carr. David Fales. Either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 McCarron in the third. **** it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Tahj Boyd, Geno part deux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 By tough decision, I hope you mean, that maybe we take a QB maybe not, because if in fact they do decide to take one, then thats easy as I see it. 1. If you decide that you really want Teddy Bridgewater, then you package some of your picks and get to #1, because he aint getting by Houston, Cleveland, TB, Jacksonville, Minnesota etc. 2. If you decide that you will wait for Johnny Football, then see who finishes in the top 5 because St. Louis (with the Washington pick), and Atlanta arent taking Qb's and then you may only have to moderately trade up , and not nearly need a package like the one to get to Teddy. 3. If you decide to simply wait, then you will probably have a choice of McCarron (my choice here), Bortles, Hundley etc.. 4. If you just decide to plain wait, then the 2 injured guys (Murray, and Mettenberg) are both worth a later pick. Whatever they decide, if Atlanta, or St. Louis ended up with the top pick, then I thin we could really make a play for Teddy, as they both will probably want to trade out of that spot, not needing QB's unless of course they believe they have to take CLOWNEY #1. Either way, If I'm the Jets, I'm drafting a 1st round QB, and I try as hard as I can to get one of the top 3, because the last time we had a class like this, we saw ELWAY, MARINO,KELLY, EASON etc. all go and we take O'brien. Granted, we didnt have to move up to get Marino, but thats another story for another day. The Jets just cant be left out of this QB draft, can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Whoops, Sorry, forgot to even mention 2 QBs mentioned in this thread, Carr and Fales. I didnt however forget BOYD as I am trying to purposely leave him out as I agree with the poster who said: Boyd, Geno part deux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 By tough decision, I hope you mean, that maybe we take a QB maybe not, because if in fact they do decide to take one, then thats easy as I see it. 1. If you decide that you really want Teddy Bridgewater, then you package some of your picks and get to #1, because he aint getting by Houston, Cleveland, TB, Jacksonville, Minnesota etc. 2. If you decide that you will wait for Johnny Football, then see who finishes in the top 5 because St. Louis (with the Washington pick), and Atlanta arent taking Qb's and then you may only have to moderately trade up , and not nearly need a package like the one to get to Teddy. 3. If you decide to simply wait, then you will probably have a choice of McCarron (my choice here), Bortles, Hundley etc.. 4. If you just decide to plain wait, then the 2 injured guys (Murray, and Mettenberg) are both worth a later pick. Whatever they decide, if Atlanta, or St. Louis ended up with the top pick, then I thin we could really make a play for Teddy, as they both will probably want to trade out of that spot, not needing QB's unless of course they believe they have to take CLOWNEY #1. Either way, If I'm the Jets, I'm drafting a 1st round QB, and I try as hard as I can to get one of the top 3, because the last time we had a class like this, we saw ELWAY, MARINO,KELLY, EASON etc. all go and we take O'brien. Granted, we didnt have to move up to get Marino, but thats another story for another day. The Jets just cant be left out of this QB draft, can they? What if you decide to just simply plain, wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 yeah, what JiF said AND Bortles, because I just like saying Bortles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 What if you decide to just simply plain, wait? Then you take Obrien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I stopped reading at "Geno is good." You take a QB every year until you hit. Doesn't have to be round one, but we didn't hit with Geno. We do need to upgrade WR and TE no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 it's way too early but the way this is shaping up, Teddy goes 1. Johnny Football goes 2-6 (he won't get past Cleveland, wherever they end up). who is the 3rd best QB in this draft? It's unclear. I do think they take a QB but more likely in rd 3 than rd 1/2. I also think Geno will finish strong. Nope not happening. Browns would take Carr over Johnny Football, he fits their offense way more. Also, the 3rd best qb is being debated between Blake Bortles and Johnny Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 By tough decision, I hope you mean, that maybe we take a QB maybe not, because if in fact they do decide to take one, then thats easy as I see it. 1. If you decide that you really want Teddy Bridgewater, then you package some of your picks and get to #1, because he aint getting by Houston, Cleveland, TB, Jacksonville, Minnesota etc. 2. If you decide that you will wait for Johnny Football, then see who finishes in the top 5 because St. Louis (with the Washington pick), and Atlanta arent taking Qb's and then you may only have to moderately trade up , and not nearly need a package like the one to get to Teddy. 3. If you decide to simply wait, then you will probably have a choice of McCarron (my choice here), Bortles, Hundley etc.. 4. If you just decide to plain wait, then the 2 injured guys (Murray, and Mettenberg) are both worth a later pick. Whatever they decide, if Atlanta, or St. Louis ended up with the top pick, then I thin we could really make a play for Teddy, as they both will probably want to trade out of that spot, not needing QB's unless of course they believe they have to take CLOWNEY #1. Either way, If I'm the Jets, I'm drafting a 1st round QB, and I try as hard as I can to get one of the top 3, because the last time we had a class like this, we saw ELWAY, MARINO,KELLY, EASON etc. all go and we take O'brien. Granted, we didnt have to move up to get Marino, but thats another story for another day. The Jets just cant be left out of this QB draft, can they? No one knows if Hundley is coming out. And Bortles is going in the first round, possibly even before Manziel's name is called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 McCarron in the third. **** it. +1 Can't believe I actually agree with you on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Sounds like we take a Brady like qb or a Russell Wilson in later rounds, trading up means losing picks, I'm good with taking playmakers early and a soft brady type in 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 This isn't a tough decision at all. If there's a QB on the board who they like, they should take him. I vote for Aaron Murray. McCarron looks like Ryan Fitzpatrick to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Either way, If I'm the Jets, I'm drafting a 1st round QB, and I try as hard as I can to get one of the top 3, To get up to the top 3 we are talking about multiple first rounders i.e. the RG3 trade. It's a franchise crippler if it doesn't work out. The problem with the Jets taking a QB in rd1 is that it's not clear there's gonna be a QB where the Jets pick. It's looking like Teddy at 1, Johnny top5/10 and maybe Carr in the top 12 (if he has an amazing post season) and the Jets right now are sitting at 14. Could one of those guys fall? sure it's possible, especially Carr. Bortles is grading as a rd 1-2 cusp right now but if there's one thing we can draw from Idzik's drafting style is he let's the draft come to him. He's not going to force a QB into being the 4th rd1 QB if he isn't really worth that pick. Edited December 13, 2013 by bitonti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 No one knows if Hundley is coming out. And Bortles is going in the first round, possibly even before Manziel's name is called. I hope your right about Bortles, because I would rather have Manziel anyway, and am hoping against hope that somehow he falls, or the Jets get in position to get him. Really, when you think about it, when was the last time a JET fan could get really excited about the QB they drafted, other than JoeWillie. Think about it, just about every franchise since then has been able to get really excited about a QB picked in the draft and some like Indianapolis(twice) But really who from the Jets? Todd, Pennington? naah. If they drafted Manziel, he'd be a god in NY. Even TB drafted a heisman winner (Testaverde) Denver drafted Elway, the Kins drafted RGIII, etc and could really get the fan base excited. The Giants drafted a Manning, Buffalo drafted Kelley. We never draft THAT GUY, well here's our chance, finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Are we pretending that the jets aren't just going to grab another corner or defensive lineman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I stopped reading at "Geno is good." You take a QB every year until you hit. Doesn't have to be round one, but we didn't hit with Geno. We do need to upgrade WR and TE no doubt. And how exactly do you know that you "hit" on said QB if you're drafting one every single year? You keep playing them until you find a rookie who lights it up in his first regular season? How do you evaluate and develop a QB if you're only giving each one a single year to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 And how exactly do you know that you "hit" on said QB if you're drafting one every single year? You keep playing them until you find a rookie who lights it up in his first regular season? How do you evaluate and develop a QB if you're only giving each one a single year to start? I see your point, but to play devil's advocate, where do you feel is a good point to evaluate? Two seasons? More? Less? I think the sentiment of taking one every year is there because our franchise has shown they can't evaluate qb talent for sh*t and that in general it's difficult to scout it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 i stopped reading at "geno is good" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 someone will trade a 1 for geno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Move to draft section please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 someone will trade a 1 for geno? Please, Find that GM, and if they do, throw in Sanchez as they deserve it for trading a #1 for a guy who Dropped out of the first round for all the reasons we have seen, and now we can get a 1 for Geno. PLEASE make this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Are we pretending that the jets aren't just going to grab another corner or defensive lineman? If Rex is still the coach, then we are pretending. I could even see on darft day, where you get that announcement, "WE HAVE A TRADE", and then you start to get really excited that maybe its the Jets, and then they announce it is the Jets moving up, and 2 or 3 great QBs are on the board, and now your really pumped, and Goodell announces yet another D-lineman, or safety, and the team right after the Jets takes that QB. Damn, I'm having nightmares already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Are we pretending that the jets aren't just going to grab another corner or defensive lineman? I'm pretending that whoever we pick will be awesome until September when they become bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 McCarron in the third. **** it. I've had that feeling since the bama LSU game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 McCarron in the third. **** it. If we hire Bevell, you can forget this, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 If we hire Bevell, you can forget this, btw. Because of the lack of mobility or the lack of arm strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 And how exactly do you know that you "hit" on said QB if you're drafting one every single year? You keep playing them until you find a rookie who lights it up in his first regular season? How do you evaluate and develop a QB if you're only giving each one a single year to start? You're right. They should stay the course with the terrible QBs on the roster. It's bad enough they have Sanchez four years, let's give Geno another four and throw in some guaranteed money too. You'll know you've got a QB when you don't have to draft a QB for five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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