Maxman Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 http://www.jetnation.com/podcasts/2013/JN_Radio122313.mp3 Dennis Agapito and Tyson Rauch are joined by Ron Pickett this week. Listen and let us know where you stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 No. Anyone saying "yes" is a reactionary dipsh*t who needs help managing their self-loathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 No. Anyone saying "yes" is a reactionary dipshit who needs help managing their self-loathing. That is good to know. Hey are those tips you put together for self-loathing still available to download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Oh great, besides being discussed Ad Nauseum on this forum, we can tune to other outlets, radio stations, ESPN, SI.com etc. and really beat this thing into submission. Good thing its a holiday week, where we all have time to obliterate this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanightmare225 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 He deserves another year with offensive talent around geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanightmare225 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 The real question is will they keep him... I don't think they will and it's a mistake bc there is no one that would do better that we can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Oh great, besides being discussed Ad Nauseum on this forum, we can tune to other outlets, radio stations, ESPN, SI.com etc. and really beat this thing into submission. Good thing its a holiday week, where we all have time to obliterate this subject. It's become the hypocrite cause du jour in the local media now. They're herding reactionary Jets fans up before trolling them all offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It's become the hypocrite cause du jour in the local media now. They're herding reactionary Jets fans up before trolling them all offseason. A thousand times this. The current editorial position of WFAN is that the Jets would be fools to let Rex get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 A thousand times this. The current editorial position of WFAN is that the Jets would be fools to let Rex get away. ...which is true. They would be fools to fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 ...which is true. They would be fools to fire him. Provide three legitimate reasons, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Sid Rosenberg apparently is filling in this week on WFAN. "Point differential doesnt matter." Cant get that type of analysis everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Sid Rosenberg apparently is filling in this week on WFAN. "Point differential doesnt matter." Cant get that type of analysis everywhere. He's unlistenable. I don't understand the alleged fascination with bringing him back. He's rumored to be among the candidates to replace Francesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Provide three legitimate reasons, please. 1.master motivator 2.master motivator 3.master motivator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Provide three legitimate reasons, please. 1. He's a master motivator; players love playing for him. 2. He knows his X's and O's on defense. You're always going to have a good defense when you've got Rex behind it. There aren't many (possibly there aren't any) coaches that are excellent on both sides of the ball, so the chances you're going to stumble upon one of those guys is extremely slim. There are, however, plenty of coaches around the league that aren't great on either side of the ball. Rex is. 3. He's proven that he has what it takes to win the big games. E.g., beating Brady and Manning back to back on the road in their buildings in the playoffs. There. Now provide three legitimate reasons to fire him, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 He's unlistenable. I don't understand the alleged fascination with bringing him back. He's rumored to be among the candidates to replace Francesa If not Sid, then Raul Castro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 1. He's a master motivator; players love playing for him. 2. He knows his X's and O's on defense. You're always going to have a good defense when you've got Rex behind it. There aren't many (possibly there aren't any) coaches that are excellent on both sides of the ball, so the chances you're going to stumble upon one of those guys is extremely slim. There are, however, plenty of coaches around the league that aren't great on either side of the ball. Rex is. 3. He's proven that he has what it takes to win the big games. E.g., beating Brady and Manning back to back on the road in their buildings in the playoffs. There. Now provide three legitimate reasons to fire him, please. 1. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 2. Wasted every draft class given to him. If you're not a defensive lineman, you came here and watched your career flatline before it got started. No players other than DL improve here. 3. Complete inability to manage the clock. 4. Complete inability to provide discipline. 5. Tony Sparano was Rex's hire all the way, and one he bragged about making. The absolute catastrophe that followed was entirely on Rex. 6. Mark Sanchez was a historically bad quarterback who was never held accountable until it became entirely untenable post-Buttfumble, and that lasted one whole game. Even this year, Rex's concern for Sanchez's feelings led him to put him back into the Giants game this preseason. Add to that, Rex decides to surround Sanchez--coming off the second playoff run--with a huddle including exiled psychopaths Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, and Derrick Mason, all players Rex adored from his Baltimore days. It was almost impossibly stupid, but that's Rex. He's an idiot. 7. Santonio Holmes has run roughshod over the quarterback, the coach, and the organization since he got here and the coach sponsored it the entire way. 8. Five years in, team is rebuilding when it should be competing for titles. How sad is it that you're excited about almost being .500 this season? 9. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 10. Complete inability to coach a whole team. Treats offense like an inconvenience. Models these Jets on the template of the anomalous 2000 Ravens. This is his ideal. This is his plan. This is his ceiling. 11. Opposing passers: 90 rating on the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Sid Rosenberg apparently is filling in this week on WFAN. "Point differential doesnt matter." Cant get that type of analysis everywhere. I'm shocked--shocked!--that the JN Brain Trust is in intellecual lockstep with a luminary like Sid Rosenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 1. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 2. Wasted every draft class given to him. If you're not a defensive lineman, you came here and watched your career flatline before it got started. No players other than DL improve here. 3. Complete inability to manage the clock. 4. Complete inability to provide discipline. 5. Tony Sparano was Rex's hire all the way, and one he bragged about making. The absolute catastrophe that followed was entirely on Rex. 6. Mark Sanchez was a historically bad quarterback who was never held accountable until it became entirely untenable post-Buttfumble, and that lasted one whole game. Even this year, Rex's concern for Sanchez's feelings led him to put him back into the Giants game this preseason. Add to that, Rex decides to surround Sanchez--coming off the second playoff run--with a huddle including exiled psychopaths Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, and Derrick Mason, all players Rex adored from his Baltimore days. It was almost impossibly stupid, but that's Rex. He's an idiot. 7. Santonio Holmes has run roughshod over the quarterback, the coach, and the organization since he got here and the coach sponsored it the entire way. 8. Five years in, team is rebuilding when it should be competing for titles. How sad is it that you're excited about almost being .500 this season? 9. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 10. Complete inability to coach a whole team. Treats offense like an inconvenience. Models these Jets on the template of the anomalous 2000 Ravens. This is his ideal. This is his plan. This is his ceiling. 11. Opposing passers: 90 rating on the season. Cant you read? He said 3 and you provide 11. Whats wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Also guys just fyi WFAN is totally credible now and we should take them seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Also guys just fyi WFAN is totally credible now and we should take them seriously Great. Now I dont have to listen to my wife screaming : "why do you listen to that crap?", since its totally credible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 No. Anyone saying "yes" is a reactionary dipsh*t who needs help managing their self-loathing. You could respond the same way if I asked wether or not you where a Jets fan.......... Go Rex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 1. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 2. Wasted every draft class given to him. If you're not a defensive lineman, you came here and watched your career flatline before it got started. No players other than DL improve here. 3. Complete inability to manage the clock. 4. Complete inability to provide discipline. 5. Tony Sparano was Rex's hire all the way, and one he bragged about making. The absolute catastrophe that followed was entirely on Rex. 6. Mark Sanchez was a historically bad quarterback who was never held accountable until it became entirely untenable post-Buttfumble, and that lasted one whole game. Even this year, Rex's concern for Sanchez's feelings led him to put him back into the Giants game this preseason. Add to that, Rex decides to surround Sanchez--coming off the second playoff run--with a huddle including exiled psychopaths Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, and Derrick Mason, all players Rex adored from his Baltimore days. It was almost impossibly stupid, but that's Rex. He's an idiot. 7. Santonio Holmes has run roughshod over the quarterback, the coach, and the organization since he got here and the coach sponsored it the entire way. 8. Five years in, team is rebuilding when it should be competing for titles. How sad is it that you're excited about almost being .500 this season? 9. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 10. Complete inability to coach a whole team. Treats offense like an inconvenience. Models these Jets on the template of the anomalous 2000 Ravens. This is his ideal. This is his plan. This is his ceiling. 11. Opposing passers: 90 rating on the season. Post of all time. The end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 It's become the hypocrite cause du jour in the local media now. They're herding reactionary Jets fans up before trolling them all offseason. What kills me about all this media crap is that they took a royal dump on Rex last season. I remember a clown car with Rex, Woody and Sanchez ALL on board. Rex had a big green nose as well as clown hair. NOW Rex is great they all say. The NY media flops like a fish on a dock with no real or original ideas amongst the entire group which includes Serby, Cimini, Mehta, Costello, and Walder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 What kills me about all this media crap is that they took a royal dump on Rex last season. I remember a clown car with Rex, Woody and Sanchez ALL on board. Rex had a big green nose as well as clown hair. NOW Rex is great they all say. The NY media flops like a fish on a dock with no real or original ideas amongst the entire group which includes Serby, Cimini, Mehta, Costello, and Walder. When it comes to the Jets and the mets, it seems they have figured out they get better ratings when they take negative stances on everything either team does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 This is very true- Rex last year portrayed by the media as a clown . Now that media is saying it would be a terrible loss to lose him. Whether you want him to go or not- no denying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 1. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 2. Wasted every draft class given to him. If you're not a defensive lineman, you came here and watched your career flatline before it got started. No players other than DL improve here. 3. Complete inability to manage the clock. 4. Complete inability to provide discipline. 5. Tony Sparano was Rex's hire all the way, and one he bragged about making. The absolute catastrophe that followed was entirely on Rex. 6. Mark Sanchez was a historically bad quarterback who was never held accountable until it became entirely untenable post-Buttfumble, and that lasted one whole game. Even this year, Rex's concern for Sanchez's feelings led him to put him back into the Giants game this preseason. Add to that, Rex decides to surround Sanchez--coming off the second playoff run--with a huddle including exiled psychopaths Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, and Derrick Mason, all players Rex adored from his Baltimore days. It was almost impossibly stupid, but that's Rex. He's an idiot. 7. Santonio Holmes has run roughshod over the quarterback, the coach, and the organization since he got here and the coach sponsored it the entire way. 8. Five years in, team is rebuilding when it should be competing for titles. How sad is it that you're excited about almost being .500 this season? 9. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 10. Complete inability to coach a whole team. Treats offense like an inconvenience. Models these Jets on the template of the anomalous 2000 Ravens. This is his ideal. This is his plan. This is his ceiling. 11. Opposing passers: 90 rating on the season. This is a garbage post that is created from fantasy, not fact. Tom can write, we all know that. It doesn't make it true. Tannenbaum was in charge of the draft. Not sure who Rex was supposed to develop. And he doesn't have a complete inability to manage the clock. There is room for improvement but he isn't terrible. Especially when you factor in his entire time here has spent with young QBs. Rex wanted Sparano and Haley. He got Sparano. That was a disaster. No doubt. But the Tebow fiasco didn't help any of that. Rex should have held Sanchez accountable. I have said that for years. That said, there was no talent behind Sanchez. But Rex learned his lesson in this regard and he benched Geno this year. Same for Milliner. Rex learned his lesson on accountability. He has the ability to improve despite your protests otherwise. The Jets are a disciplined team btw. They have done well penalty wise with a few bad games mixed in under Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 This is a garbage post that is created from fantasy, not fact. Tom can write, we all know that. It doesn't make it true. Tannenbaum was in charge of the draft. Not sure who Rex was supposed to develop. And he doesn't have a complete inability to manage the clock. There is room for improvement but he isn't terrible. Especially when you factor in his entire time here has spent with young QBs. Rex wanted Sparano and Haley. He got Sparano. That was a disaster. No doubt. But the Tebow fiasco didn't help any of that. Rex should have held Sanchez accountable. I have said that for years. That said, there was no talent behind Sanchez. But Rex learned his lesson in this regard and he benched Geno this year. Same for Milliner. Rex learned his lesson on accountability. He has the ability to improve despite your protests otherwise. The Jets are a disciplined team btw. They have done well penalty wise with a few bad games mixed in under Rex. lol, I like totally agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 This is a garbage post that is created from fantasy, not fact. !!!! Tannenbaum was in charge of the draft. !!!! Not sure who Rex was supposed to develop. ??? And he doesn't have a complete inability to manage the clock. He got Sparano. He has the ability to improve despite your protests otherwise. The Jets are a disciplined team btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 What kills me about all this media crap is that they took a royal dump on Rex last season. I remember a clown car with Rex, Woody and Sanchez ALL on board. Rex had a big green nose as well as clown hair. NOW Rex is great they all say. The NY media flops like a fish on a dock with no real or original ideas amongst the entire group which includes Serby, Cimini, Mehta, Costello, and Walder.I agree but what we have to remember is the media are not jet fans, they don't live and die with this team like we do, they want Rex to stay now because they want the circus, they want the leaks, they want the bafoonery, theyre not like us wins and losses mean nothing...Francesa said a few years ago that the Mets collapses were better for ratings than the Giants super bowls...these media clowns are panicking because the circus is about to leave town and they know it...the jets can go 16-0 for 5 straight years and win 5 straight super bowls and cimini and crew would be yearning for the good old days of clown Rex.....the media are not in this for the same reasons we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 1. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 2. Wasted every draft class given to him. If you're not a defensive lineman, you came here and watched your career flatline before it got started. No players other than DL improve here. 3. Complete inability to manage the clock. 4. Complete inability to provide discipline. 5. Tony Sparano was Rex's hire all the way, and one he bragged about making. The absolute catastrophe that followed was entirely on Rex. 6. Mark Sanchez was a historically bad quarterback who was never held accountable until it became entirely untenable post-Buttfumble, and that lasted one whole game. Even this year, Rex's concern for Sanchez's feelings led him to put him back into the Giants game this preseason. Add to that, Rex decides to surround Sanchez--coming off the second playoff run--with a huddle including exiled psychopaths Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, and Derrick Mason, all players Rex adored from his Baltimore days. It was almost impossibly stupid, but that's Rex. He's an idiot. 7. Santonio Holmes has run roughshod over the quarterback, the coach, and the organization since he got here and the coach sponsored it the entire way. 8. Five years in, team is rebuilding when it should be competing for titles. How sad is it that you're excited about almost being .500 this season? 9. 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 7-9 10. Complete inability to coach a whole team. Treats offense like an inconvenience. Models these Jets on the template of the anomalous 2000 Ravens. This is his ideal. This is his plan. This is his ceiling. 11. Opposing passers: 90 rating on the season. 1. 41-39, assuming we lose the last game of the year. Sorry but going 7-9 in a cap ridden season isn't grounds to fire. 2. That shows your complete lack of knowledge. Demario Davis, Allen/Bush, Coples, Powell. Now I know you totally wanna ignore the DL in this discussion but when it's your strength if the team, you can't discount it. Mo, Harrison n Sheldon May be the best in the league. 3. That's your opinion. 4. Again, your opinion. 5. He was let go after one season so he held him accountable. 6. Sanchez did take us to two AFCCGs, suggesting we can win with Sanchez. Cap he'll caused the offense to suffer much more than defense. Being in cap he'll wasn't Rex's fault. 7. He was asked to take a paycut or be released. Not sure if that means he was "sponsored all the way". 8. We lost a GM and had a huge turnover due to cap. Of course we'd be in rebuilding mode n yet we are almost .500 in a complete rebuilding year. 9. Already discussed 10. Not many coaches can do that. They have been one if the better running teams, just never got a good QB. Not every coach gets lucky with a Brady. 11. Great. Let's not talk about the DL, but let's talk about our secondary in a season when your rookie CB becomes ur #1 due to injuries n have I drafted FAs playing CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 1. 41-39, assuming we lose the last game of the year. Sorry but going 7-9 in a cap ridden season isn't grounds to fire. 2. That shows your complete lack of knowledge. Demario Davis, Allen/Bush, Coples, Powell. Now I know you totally wanna ignore the DL in this discussion but when it's your strength if the team, you can't discount it. Mo, Harrison n Sheldon May be the best in the league. 3. That's your opinion. 4. Again, your opinion. 5. He was let go after one season so he held him accountable. 6. Sanchez did take us to two AFCCGs, suggesting we can win with Sanchez. Cap he'll caused the offense to suffer much more than defense. Being in cap he'll wasn't Rex's fault. 7. He was asked to take a paycut or be released. Not sure if that means he was "sponsored all the way". 8. We lost a GM and had a huge turnover due to cap. Of course we'd be in rebuilding mode n yet we are almost .500 in a complete rebuilding year. 9. Already discussed 10. Not many coaches can do that. They have been one if the better running teams, just never got a good QB. Not every coach gets lucky with a Brady. 11. Great. Let's not talk about the DL, but let's talk about our secondary in a season when your rookie CB becomes ur #1 due to injuries n have I drafted FAs playing CB. lol, I like totally agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 1. 41-39, assuming we lose the last game of the year. Sorry but going 7-9 in a cap ridden season isn't grounds to fire. 2. That shows your complete lack of knowledge. Demario Davis, Allen/Bush, Coples, Powell. Now I know you totally wanna ignore the DL in this discussion but when it's your strength if the team, you can't discount it. Mo, Harrison n Sheldon May be the best in the league. 3. That's your opinion. 4. Again, your opinion. 5. He was let go after one season so he held him accountable. 6. Sanchez did take us to two AFCCGs, suggesting we can win with Sanchez. Cap he'll caused the offense to suffer much more than defense. Being in cap he'll wasn't Rex's fault. 7. He was asked to take a paycut or be released. Not sure if that means he was "sponsored all the way". 8. We lost a GM and had a huge turnover due to cap. Of course we'd be in rebuilding mode n yet we are almost .500 in a complete rebuilding year. 9. Already discussed 10. Not many coaches can do that. They have been one if the better running teams, just never got a good QB. Not every coach gets lucky with a Brady. 11. Great. Let's not talk about the DL, but let's talk about our secondary in a season when your rookie CB becomes ur #1 due to injuries n have I drafted FAs playing CB. Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Great post! Greatest post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 1. 41-39, assuming we lose the last game of the year. Sorry but going 7-9 in a cap ridden season isn't grounds to fire. 2. That shows your complete lack of knowledge. Demario Davis, Allen/Bush, Coples, Powell. Now I know you totally wanna ignore the DL in this discussion but when it's your strength if the team, you can't discount it. Mo, Harrison n Sheldon May be the best in the league. 3. That's your opinion. 4. Again, your opinion. 5. He was let go after one season so he held him accountable. 6. Sanchez did take us to two AFCCGs, suggesting we can win with Sanchez. Cap he'll caused the offense to suffer much more than defense. Being in cap he'll wasn't Rex's fault. 7. He was asked to take a paycut or be released. Not sure if that means he was "sponsored all the way". 8. We lost a GM and had a huge turnover due to cap. Of course we'd be in rebuilding mode n yet we are almost .500 in a complete rebuilding year. 9. Already discussed 10. Not many coaches can do that. They have been one if the better running teams, just never got a good QB. Not every coach gets lucky with a Brady. 11. Great. Let's not talk about the DL, but let's talk about our secondary in a season when your rookie CB becomes ur #1 due to injuries n have I drafted FAs playing CB. I like this post because it highlights how pathetically shallow and weak the pro-Rex argument is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I like this post because it highlights how pathetically shallow and weak the pro-Rex argument is. Or perhaps it shows how weak your points were? Now Rex is not perfect, of course. But he has done a really good job with what he was offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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