neckdemon Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Big deal. I expect we will. But we still won't have a competent offense and hence we won't be a real threat to do anything. i think there is no way in hell that idzik doesn't do everything he can possibly do to upgrade this offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 i think there is no way in hell that idzik doesn't do everything he can possibly do to upgrade this offense Is Idzik going to coach them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 What is odd is that for Idzik this is win/win. Gets his owner to keep around a potential scapegoat if it goes to poop, gets another year of really nothing being his fault and then the possibility of telling Johnson "I told you so" at the end of next season. Or perhaps they even luck into a down year by the Pats and a 10-win season. Completely agree, and I've said so before. Max mentioned it, too. It doesn't hurt Idzik even a little bit to retain Rex, especially at the urging of Woody. All it does is potentially lengthen his stay as GM. Disagree about Rex and the offense, though. He said before last season that he wanted a higher powered offense, and that was part of his motivation to move on from Sparano. They tried to open it up with Sanchez and Schotty in 2011, too, but they weren't up to the task. The idea that Rex doesn't understand how the current NFL works is a ridiculous one. Sure, he wants to dominate on defense, but you don't put all that thought into defense without understanding offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Completely agree, and I've said so before. Max mentioned it, too. It doesn't hurt Idzik even a little bit to retain Rex, especially at the urging of Woody. All it does is potentially lengthen his stay as GM. Disagree about Rex and the offense, though. He said before last season that he wanted a higher powered offense, and that was part of his motivation to move on from Sparano. They tried to open it up with Sanchez and Schotty in 2011, too, but they weren't up to the task. The idea that Rex doesn't understand how the current NFL works is a ridiculous one. Sure, he wants to dominate on defense, but you don't put all that thought into defense without understanding offense. Yeah, there's five years of evidence that Rex has a highly complex understanding of offensive football, including his swift termination (after only a singular disastrous year!) of an offensive coordinator that he hired himself. Guy really has his finger on the pulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Can't wait for the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Dec. 30 headline- Rex gets retained by the Jets= predicts Super Bowl victory in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Can't wait for the draft! The 2015 draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Good news. This is simply Rex looking BCA- Best Coach Available. Not a glaring endorsement, but gives us the best chance I think. Speaks well to Idzik's patience imo. I think Idzik's best move to date is bringing in a bunch of new scouts. In a capped sport, legacies are built in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Come to think of it, this could be Idzik's way of getting out of paying that remaining $3-$4 mil to Rex. He tells Rex he can come back on a one-year deal, Rex tells him to **** off, then Rex quits to take another job. Boom. No money owed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Can't wait for the draft!The annual highlights for this franchise every year are Garbage Bag Day and Draft Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Come to think of it, this could be Idzik's way of getting out of paying that remaining $3-$4 mil to Rex. He tells Rex he can come back on a one-year deal, Rex tells him to **** off, then Rex quits to take another job. Boom. No money owed. Your fantasy ain't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 The 2015 draft? 2014...More DBs and DLs. Hard not to get excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Your fantasy ain't happening. Phil needs you in the server room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Yeah, there's five years of evidence that Rex has a highly complex understanding of offensive football, including his swift termination (after only a singular disastrous year!) of an offensive coordinator that he hired himself. Guy really has his finger on the pulse.In Year 6, Wrecks will now finally totally get it when it comes to offense. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 In Year 6, Wrecks will now finally totally get it when it comes to offense. Right. Totally plausible. He's also being granted That Magic Quarterback that cruel fate has heretofore denied him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 The annual highlights for this franchise every year are Garbage Bag Day and Draft Day. I feel you. Maybe I need to attend the live draft instead of watching on TV. Might just change our luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I feel you. Maybe I need to attend the live draft instead of watching on TV. Might just change our luck.I did. They picked Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I did. They picked Sanchez. I would not admit to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 7-9 is pretty impressive for a no talent team with no cap room going into this year. If they beat the Fins tomorrow, 8-8 is even more so. I am willing to give him another year with Idzik opening the wallet with some Offensive talent and secondary help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Totally plausible. He's also being granted That Magic Quarterback that cruel fate has heretofore denied him.Would love to hear anyone explain what they saw from Geno Smith this year that leads them to believe he is the proverbial Magic Quarterback. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitGe00.htm Take a long look at this numbers and tell me how he's not a bum in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Would love to hear anyone explain what they saw form Geno Smith this year that leads them to believe he is the proverbail Magic Quarterback http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitGe00.htm Take a long look at this numbers and tell me how he's not a bum in the making. Don't sweat it Mornhinweg is on it. Not sure if you've heard: guy is the quarterback whisperer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Don't sweat it Mornhinweg is on it. Not sure if you've heard: guy is the quarterback whisperer. I thought that was David Lee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I thought that was David Lee... Don't waste your time and energy on this hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Don't sweat it Mornhinweg is on it. Not sure if you've heard: guy is the quarterback whisperer.Keep seeing all thie great stuff about Geno in the media and here. And then the guy goes out there and pretty much craps the bed each week. Sure, they occasionally let him throw a pass when the ground and pound goes to hell, but 12 TDs against 21 INTS is awful. But he doesn't fumble as much; this is what constitutes improvement, that he's barely capable of not turning the ball over more than 1.75 times each game. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Would love to hear anyone explain what they saw from Geno Smith this year that leads them to believe he is the proverbial Magic Quarterback. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitGe00.htm Take a long look at this numbers and tell me how he's not a bum in the making. He had a better year than Mark's rookie year and everyone was slurping his nuts and excited for the future. The only difference is that Mark did it with a much better team than Geno has done it with. Throw for more yards per attempt, less I tetceptions per throw, more total yards, touchdowns and a higher completion percentage. People also see that he's a rookie coming from a shotgun system who had barely any of his receivers healthy throughout the season and taking reps in practice. He shouldn't be guaranteed anything, but provided he closes out the season well against Miami, I think it's not unreasonable to be excited for him to beat out whatever rookie or veteran we bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Keep seeing all thie great stuff about Geno in the media and here. And then the guy goes out there and pretty much craps the bed each week. Sure, they occasionally let him throw a pass when the ground and pound goes to hell, but 12 TDs against 21 INTS is awful. But he doesn't fumble as much; this is what constitutes improvement, that he's barely capable of not turning the ball over more than 1.75 times each game. Great. That's what you do with rookie and young QBs, run the ball and put them in good situations. Geno has thrown the ball 30 more times than Russell Wilson and has even been benched a few times. Geno has been asked to do a whole lot with very little, more than a lot of other young QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Geno is as bad as Sanchez if not worse. He has the same flaws and makes the same missteps. If Rex hitches his wagon to Geno, he's gone. That's how bad Geno is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Geno is as bad as Sanchez if not worse. He has the same flaws and makes the same missteps. If Rex hitches his wagon to Geno, he's goine. That's how bad Geno is. You keep parotting that argument, even though all stats say otherwise. More yards per attempt, less interceptions per attempt, more total yards and touchdowns, higher completion percentage and a worse team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Geno is as bad as Sanchez if not worse. He has the same flaws and makes the same missteps. If Rex hitches his wagon to Geno, he's gone. That's how bad Geno is.Exactly. Nobody in the media wants to be tht turd in the punchbowl.You're not going to get treated well at Florham Park if you tell the truth. The QB is different but still terrible. MM is a major improvement over Schotty, but he doesn't have anything better to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 You keep parotting that argument, even though all stats say otherwise. More yards per attempt, less interceptions per attempt, more total yards and touchdowns, higher completion percentage and a worse team.Thisa argument can be summarized as "Geno doesn't suck quite as bad as Pick 6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 You keep parotting that argument, even though all stats say otherwise. More yards per attempt, less interceptions per attempt, more total yards and touchdowns, higher completion percentage and a worse team. Same stare down of receivers. Same happy feet in clean pockets. Same horrendous accuracy. Same mistake prone QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Rex or no Rex- until we get competent QB play this Jets team will fail. It is up the braintrust to figure out how to accomplish that. Get a veteran and or draft another QB to compete with Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So you think it's "unreal" so your scared of Rex Ryan as the Jets HC, and want to see him fired, pussy Pat fans! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 You may be 1 Step closer to having to streak across midfield with a sh*tty ass and a roll a paper towels stringing behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Swear to Christ: if Johnson mentions the term "Twitter poll" as a reason to bring Rex back, I am done with this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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