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That was an insane game. I hope the Jets draft him, the kids got it and is going to be a star in the league. His accuracy on the run is so smooth, and the kid is a crazy leader. You guys see the speech he gave the team on the sidelines. Dude's passionate. He even game the team a speech in the locker room telling them to forget about the score. Kid's got it. Whoever drafts him is going to get a winner.

When he was going into his rants, especially early in the game, it looked like his teammates wanted to hear from him. Later in the game, a few teammates looked to be clapping sarcastically. I don't know if his act will work in the NFL to be honest.

As far as his talent, its definitely there. Let's keep in mind he did all this in the SEC which is NFL lite. Not all lineman are going to be like Duke though and not be able to finish the deal. Those couple special scrambles he made would have been sacks in the nfl. He also holds the ball like a loaf of bread.

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That was an insane game. I hope the Jets draft him, the kids got it and is going to be a star in the league. His accuracy on the run is so smooth, and the kid is a crazy leader. You guys see the speech he gave the team on the sidelines. Dude's passionate. He even game the team a speech in the locker room telling them to forget about the score. Kid's got it. Whoever drafts him is going to get a winner.

 

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Oh my god, if the Jets have a chance to draft this dude and pass on him, it will be the second worst mistake they have made in the past year, with obviously the retention of REX RYAN being their worst decision this year.

 

Although, handing Johnny Fooball to Rex Ryan would be akin to handing a Renior painting to Jed Clampett.

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no thank you. He isnt going to be able to run away from NFL Defenses. The way i see people gush over Manziel reminds me of the way everyone gushed over Sanchez, over Brady Quinn, over Leinart, over god knows how many QB busts...enough already. focus on skill players so no one can bitch anymore about how HE DOESNT HAVE ANYONE TO THROW TOO.

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P.S. Johnny Football no matter how talented will fail because the media circus around him will tear him down. Do you really think the Jets need another media stunt?? Have you already forgotten what Tebow did to this team just by standing on the sideline?? 

Tebow? LOL, the dude had the worst delivery of the football of any QB in the past 50 years, and then did this stupid kneel down crap, when by some miracle, the defense all laid down and he scored.

 

Manziel is a real QB, and any comparison to that born-again freak is blasphemy in its highest form.

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Tebow? LOL, the dude had the worst delivery of the football of any QB in the past 50 years, and then did this stupid kneel down crap, when by some miracle, the defense all laid down and he scored.

 

Manziel is a real QB, and any comparison to that born-again freak is blasphemy in its highest form.

The last TD pass last night, hitting a receiver on a dead run in the hands with an over the shoulder bomb, is something very few QBs at any level can do. He also scrambled out of a tackle on another TD that was beyond ridiculous. Cannot downlaod the youtube files probably because of the traffic.

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Oh my god, if the Jets have a chance to draft this dude and pass on him, it will be the second worst mistake they have made in the past year, with obviously the retention of REX RYAN being their worst decision this year.

Although, handing Johnny Fooball to Rex Ryan would be akin to handing a Renior painting to Jed Clampett.

You're the mistake, if you're going to spend the next 15 years complaining about Rex, then FIND A NEW TEAM. He's never leaving us
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P.S. Johnny Football no matter how talented will fail because the media circus around him will tear him down. Do you really think the Jets need another media stunt?? Have you already forgotten what Tebow did to this team just by standing on the sideline?? 

 

your thinking of the wrong guy my friend. Johnny Football loves the media and is smart enough from what I have seen to handle it just fine. He would bring excitement to this team and unlike TeBlow he can actually throw a football

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He's a white Troy Smith, kid will amount to absolutely nothing in the NFL.  You're impressed because he whooped up on guys who's next career move is dominating their law-firm's flag-football league. I cannot wait to see him drafted in the first round and just destroy the hopes of that entire fan-base. But he won't care, because he's got oil money.

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He's a white Troy Smith, kid will amount to absolutely nothing in the NFL.  You're impressed because he whooped up on guys who's next career move is dominating their law-firm's flag-football league. I cannot wait to see him drafted in the first round and just destroy the hopes of that entire fan-base. But he won't care, because he's got oil money.

 

I think he's a much better passer than Smith and probably a better overall athlete.    I was actually thinking of a slightly taller Doug Flutie.  

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Johnny Football too good for Jets not to draft

By Steve Serby

January 1, 2014 | 1:50pm

 
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You couldn’t take your eyes off Johnny Football on New Year’s Eve, or any other time, couldn’t help yourself from imagining him on the biggest NFL stage.

 

Johnny Jet.

 

It is fair to wonder: If Johnny Manziel struggled mightily in the fishbowl of College Station, too much temper and too much drinking and too much immaturity too much of the time, then how can you expect him to survive in New York?

 

You are a Jets fan and you are all too aware that your team is so desperate for skill position playmakers at receiver and tight end that it behooves GM John Idzik to grab one in the first round and another in the second and maybe another in the third and hope that Geno Smith is the guy.

 

But you can’t stop thinking about Johnny Football, can’t stop dreaming about him.

 

And so you tell yourself that the kid is bound to grow up one of these days, and thrive within a structure that has been lacking for him, and so you keep on dreaming.

 

And maybe you’re not sold on Geno. You like the way he rebounded at the end of the season, but you can’t stop thinking about those painful growing pains. You like him. But you like Johnny Football better. You like the sound of Broadway Johnny better than Broadway Geno.

 

And so the dream begins the night of the 2014 NFL Draft, when Idzik trades up from 18 the way Mike Tannenbaum traded up from 17 to 5 for Mark Sanchez to make Johnny Football Johnny Jet.

 

You see him hurdling a would-be defender, escaping to his left, floating a touchdown pass against all convention. You see him standing on a bench exhorting Jets fans. You see him imploring Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson to get him the ball back. You see a fiery leader.

 

You see him improvise something out of nothing from a broken-down pocket and cutting or pirouetting on a dime to elude a flailing tackler. You see him tormenting defenses out of the read option. You see him spraying darts with velocity and accuracy all over the field. You see him throwing receivers open. You see him lofting a rainbow and hitting his receiver in stride for a touchdown.

 

You see magic. You see rare instincts. You see Russell Wilson. You see Fran Tarkenton. You see Michael Vick. You see him every bit as passionate as Tom Brady and Philip Rivers and Drew Brees. You see him making his teammates around him better.

 

ESPN’s Mel Kiper likes him better coming out of college than Geno. And make no mistake about it, Johnny Football will be coming out.

 

The Texans own the first overall pick, and there will be a public clamoring for Johnny Football to replace Matt Schaub. But new coach Bill O’Brien prefers that his quarterbacks be Redwoods. So he’d likely pass.

 

The problem Idzik would face is that four of the teams in the top five of this draft need a quarterback: the Jaguars (3); Browns (4) and Raiders (5). The dream would end if it would require a trade up to 2 with the Rams, who also own the 13th pick. But if Johnny Football could slip out of the top five, the Jets, who own a pair of third-round picks, would be able to ponder a more palatable move up to 7 with the new regime in Tampa to beat the Vikings to him.

 

Woody Johnson had to have Brett Favre in 2008. He was infatuated with Tim Tebow. He has always liked stars.

Johnny Football steps off the bus a star. He is box office. And much more.

 

“He’s a brand,” analyst Jesse Palmer said after Manziel (five touchdowns – four passing, one running) brought Texas A & M back against Duke in the Chick-Fil-A-Bowl in a 52-48 win.

 

You know if Rex Ryan could fall in love with Sanchez, with Tebow, he can fall in love with Johnny Football.

Especially if Idzik can somehow come away with an Eric Decker or a James Jones in free agency and find a couple of game-changing gems with the rest of his draft picks. Hey. Alshon Jeffery was a second-rounder, right? Jimmy Graham was a third rounder, right? Rob Gronkowski was a second-rounder, right? Jordy Nelson was a second-rounder, right? Vincent Jackson was a second-rounder, right? Steve Smith was a third-rounder, right? Keenan Allen was a third-rounder, right? Brandon Marshall was a fourth-rounder, right? Antonio Brown was a sixth-rounder, right? Victor Cruz was a free agent, right? Wayne Chrebet was a free agent, right? Hey, Darrius Heyward-Bey was the seventh pick of the draft, right?

 

Heisman winners don’t always make it in the pros. Not every little guy is Wilson or Tarkenton or Drew Brees.

You’ll take your chances with Johnny Football, and so would I.

 

“He loves the big stage because it gives him the opportunity to be a star,” Palmer said.

 

Idzik and Ryan won’t anoint Smith as the starter. They are committed to a mantra of competition wherever possible. They are eager to bring in another quarterback to compete with Smith, or at the very least, push him, at the very most, win the job.

 

Why not him? Why not Johnny Jet?

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Tebow? LOL, the dude had the worst delivery of the football of any QB in the past 50 years, and then did this stupid kneel down crap, when by some miracle, the defense all laid down and he scored.

 

Manziel is a real QB, and any comparison to that born-again freak is blasphemy in its highest form.

 

the tebow comparison is lazy but it's also accurate. not because they are the same player. but because they are Heisman trophy winners who are instant jersey sellers. Manziel is like if Tebow was shorter, faster and could actually throw. If tebow goes top 25, Manziel goes top 3 maybe even at 1. Vince Young is also not a terrible comparison, even tho VY was much taller. Johnny Football in Houston is a marketing department's wet dream.  Right now Teddy Bridgewater is the chalk pick at 1, but Manziel is coming for him. The hype machine is just getting started on Manziel. We are going to be hearing about his elite escapability and play making for the next 5 months. Those who say he's too short will get Drew Brees / Russell Wilson comparisons and hand measurements. It's all playing out and while I'm not quite 100% committed to the idea of Manziel at 1, this is not an Andrew Luck situation. Teddy is the man and he's the chalk pick but he doesn't have a strangle hold lock on this top slot. Johnny Football is the type of guy who makes profit in the NFL. 

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The problem Idzik would face is that four of the teams in the top five of this draft need a quarterback: the Jaguars (3); Browns (4) and Raiders (5). The dream would end if it would require a trade up to 2 with the Rams, who also own the 13th pick. But if Johnny Football could slip out of the top five, the Jets, who own a pair of third-round picks, would be able to ponder a more palatable move up to 7 with the new regime in Tampa to beat the Vikings to him.

 

Why not him? Why not Johnny Jet?

 

 

 

serby pretty much answers his own question. trading up to the top 5 is a tanny move not an idzik move. The only way Johnny football is a Jet is if he falls real far and becomes value. 

 

Altho it's notable that Manziel is another air raid prospect, Geno Smith and Nick Foles are the two prior big names out of the Air Raid. Both Marty Morn students. Still not gonna happen but it's a fun idea.

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He's a white Troy Smith, kid will amount to absolutely nothing in the NFL.  You're impressed because he whooped up on guys who's next career move is dominating their law-firm's flag-football league. I cannot wait to see him drafted in the first round and just destroy the hopes of that entire fan-base. But he won't care, because he's got oil money.

 

Manziel beat Alabama in 2012 and it was a 49-42 loss in 2013. 

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serby pretty much answers his own question. trading up to the top 5 is a tanny move not an idzik move. The only way Johnny football is a Jet is if he falls real far and becomes value. 

 

Altho it's notable that Manziel is another air raid prospect, Geno Smith and Nick Foles are the two prior big names out of the Air Raid. Both Marty Morn students. Still not gonna happen but it's a fun idea.

 

Are we sure we know at this point what "an Idzik move" is?  In his first draft as an NFL GM Tannenbaum traded down in both the 2nd and 3rd rounds.  Going into the 2007 draft I was expecting him to be conservative and go BAP

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johnny football with rex is every beat writers dream

 

he's a better runner than tebow with an bazillion times better arm, and he likes to drink with the ladies

 

they will beat this drum until draft day

 

should be fun!

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the tebow comparison is lazy but it's also accurate. not because they are the same player. but because they are Heisman trophy winners who are instant jersey sellers. Manziel is like if Tebow was shorter, faster and could actually throw. If tebow goes top 25, Manziel goes top 3 maybe even at 1. Vince Young is also not a terrible comparison, even tho VY was much taller. Johnny Football in Houston is a marketing department's wet dream. Right now Teddy Bridgewater is the chalk pick at 1, but Manziel is coming for him. The hype machine is just getting started on Manziel. We are going to be hearing about his elite escapability and play making for the next 5 months. Those who say he's too short will get Drew Brees / Russell Wilson comparisons and hand measurements. It's all playing out and while I'm not quite 100% committed to the idea of Manziel at 1, this is not an Andrew Luck situation. Teddy is the man and he's the chalk pick but he doesn't have a strangle hold lock on this top slot. Johnny Football is the type of guy who makes profit in the NFL.

Tebow went top 25 because McDaniels is from the Belichick coaching tree of arrogance

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Manziel beat Alabama in 2012 and it was a 49-42 loss in 2013.

Everyone who watches SEC football knows 'Bama's biggest weakness was a mobile QB. Go watch him play LSU both years: when Chavis took away his ability to convert broken plays and he didn't have 6+ seconds in the pocket, he looked like hot garbage. Didn't even complete 45% of his passes and threw something like 1 TD to 5 ints.

His game isn't conducive to the NFL. HE's better off going in a mid round and developing into a Tony Romo.

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The last TD pass last night, hitting a receiver on a dead run in the hands with an over the shoulder bomb, is something very few QBs at any level can do. He also scrambled out of a tackle on another TD that was beyond ridiculous. Cannot downlaod the youtube files probably because of the traffic.

The dude is a player, and anyone that thinks he cant beat out some 2nd round pick who had the worst QBR in the league has been drinking too much Coors lite.

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the tebow comparison is lazy but it's also accurate. not because they are the same player. but because they are Heisman trophy winners who are instant jersey sellers. Manziel is like if Tebow was shorter, faster and could actually throw. If tebow goes top 25, Manziel goes top 3 maybe even at 1. Vince Young is also not a terrible comparison, even tho VY was much taller. Johnny Football in Houston is a marketing department's wet dream.  Right now Teddy Bridgewater is the chalk pick at 1, but Manziel is coming for him. The hype machine is just getting started on Manziel. We are going to be hearing about his elite escapability and play making for the next 5 months. Those who say he's too short will get Drew Brees / Russell Wilson comparisons and hand measurements. It's all playing out and while I'm not quite 100% committed to the idea of Manziel at 1, this is not an Andrew Luck situation. Teddy is the man and he's the chalk pick but he doesn't have a strangle hold lock on this top slot. Johnny Football is the type of guy who makes profit in the NFL. 

Could not agree more, Inow have them 1 and 1A, and the Jets need to trade up and get one. Period.

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Johnny Football too good for Jets not to draft

By Steve Serby

January 1, 2014 | 1:50pm

 
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You couldn’t take your eyes off Johnny Football on New Year’s Eve, or any other time, couldn’t help yourself from imagining him on the biggest NFL stage.

 

Johnny Jet.

 

It is fair to wonder: If Johnny Manziel struggled mightily in the fishbowl of College Station, too much temper and too much drinking and too much immaturity too much of the time, then how can you expect him to survive in New York?

 

You are a Jets fan and you are all too aware that your team is so desperate for skill position playmakers at receiver and tight end that it behooves GM John Idzik to grab one in the first round and another in the second and maybe another in the third and hope that Geno Smith is the guy.

 

But you can’t stop thinking about Johnny Football, can’t stop dreaming about him.

 

And so you tell yourself that the kid is bound to grow up one of these days, and thrive within a structure that has been lacking for him, and so you keep on dreaming.

 

And maybe you’re not sold on Geno. You like the way he rebounded at the end of the season, but you can’t stop thinking about those painful growing pains. You like him. But you like Johnny Football better. You like the sound of Broadway Johnny better than Broadway Geno.

 

And so the dream begins the night of the 2014 NFL Draft, when Idzik trades up from 18 the way Mike Tannenbaum traded up from 17 to 5 for Mark Sanchez to make Johnny Football Johnny Jet.

 

You see him hurdling a would-be defender, escaping to his left, floating a touchdown pass against all convention. You see him standing on a bench exhorting Jets fans. You see him imploring Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson to get him the ball back. You see a fiery leader.

 

 

You see him improvise something out of nothing from a broken-down pocket and cutting or pirouetting on a dime to elude a flailing tackler. You see him tormenting defenses out of the read option. You see him spraying darts with velocity and accuracy all over the field. You see him throwing receivers open. You see him lofting a rainbow and hitting his receiver in stride for a touchdown.

 

You see magic. You see rare instincts. You see Russell Wilson. You see Fran Tarkenton. You see Michael Vick. You see him every bit as passionate as Tom Brady and Philip Rivers and Drew Brees. You see him making his teammates around him better.

 

ESPN’s Mel Kiper likes him better coming out of college than Geno. And make no mistake about it, Johnny Football will be coming out.

 

The Texans own the first overall pick, and there will be a public clamoring for Johnny Football to replace Matt Schaub. But new coach Bill O’Brien prefers that his quarterbacks be Redwoods. So he’d likely pass.

 

The problem Idzik would face is that four of the teams in the top five of this draft need a quarterback: the Jaguars (3); Browns (4) and Raiders (5). The dream would end if it would require a trade up to 2 with the Rams, who also own the 13th pick. But if Johnny Football could slip out of the top five, the Jets, who own a pair of third-round picks, would be able to ponder a more palatable move up to 7 with the new regime in Tampa to beat the Vikings to him.

 

Woody Johnson had to have Brett Favre in 2008. He was infatuated with Tim Tebow. He has always liked stars.

Johnny Football steps off the bus a star. He is box office. And much more.

 

“He’s a brand,” analyst Jesse Palmer said after Manziel (five touchdowns – four passing, one running) brought Texas A & M back against Duke in the Chick-Fil-A-Bowl in a 52-48 win.

 

You know if Rex Ryan could fall in love with Sanchez, with Tebow, he can fall in love with Johnny Football.

Especially if Idzik can somehow come away with an Eric Decker or a James Jones in free agency and find a couple of game-changing gems with the rest of his draft picks. Hey. Alshon Jeffery was a second-rounder, right? Jimmy Graham was a third rounder, right? Rob Gronkowski was a second-rounder, right? Jordy Nelson was a second-rounder, right? Vincent Jackson was a second-rounder, right? Steve Smith was a third-rounder, right? Keenan Allen was a third-rounder, right? Brandon Marshall was a fourth-rounder, right? Antonio Brown was a sixth-rounder, right? Victor Cruz was a free agent, right? Wayne Chrebet was a free agent, right? Hey, Darrius Heyward-Bey was the seventh pick of the draft, right?

 

Heisman winners don’t always make it in the pros. Not every little guy is Wilson or Tarkenton or Drew Brees.

You’ll take your chances with Johnny Football, and so would I.

 

“He loves the big stage because it gives him the opportunity to be a star,” Palmer said.

 

Idzik and Ryan won’t anoint Smith as the starter. They are committed to a mantra of competition wherever possible. They are eager to bring in another quarterback to compete with Smith, or at the very least, push him, at the very most, win the job.

 

Why not him? Why not Johnny Jet?

 

Johnny Jet, what a ring to it, and then Johnny Jet with a ring. Make it happen John.

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