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I think there was value to it. It was the first attempt I've ever seen by mainstream entertainment to say "Hey, porn is actually pretty terrible for us."

If this movie came out while I was in college I would have thought JGL was a bitch who couldn't get laid. Maybe I just went to a freaky college. Now in the real world I agree to an extent on the basic premise.

Now I just think he's a fag because there's no reason whatsoever that the movie should've taken place in NJ with a bunch of Jersey Shore wannabe guidos and the token black friend (news flash JGL the guidos and brothas dont mix), and the father played by ******* TONY DANZA?!

also insult to injury they had a Carls Junior commercial in an early scene, now he's really pissing on us, either saying **** you NJ I'm gonna throw this in here just to prove to you that I wanna make this as unlike jersey as possible OR he's just a California a$$hole who is ignorant to the fact that carls junior DOESNT OPERATE in New Jersey or the east coast I believe for that matter

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If this movie came out while I was in college I would have thought JGL was a bitch who couldn't get laid. 

 

That's just it.  He WAS getting laid in the movie.  A lot.  With hot chicks.  So it attempts to destroy the myth that only virgin weirdos watch a lot of porn.

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I thought he was looking for the freaky sex that he was seeing in porn in the real world.

 

Correct.  Getting laid wasn't good enough for him because 1) He didn't care about the women he was banging, and 2) They weren't doing the things he saw in porn.  Once he started pulling himself away from porn and met a woman he actually did care about, his outlook on women changed.  That seemed to be the take-home to me, anyways.  The Jersey stuff was just a distraction.

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Correct. Getting laid wasn't good enough for him because 1) He didn't care about the women he was banging, and 2) They weren't doing the things he saw in porn. Once he started pulling himself away from porn and met a woman he actually did care about, his outlook on women changed. That seemed to be the take-home to me, anyways. The Jersey stuff was just a distraction.

Imo the message was a lead balloon due to the jersey stuff. Highly offended that he took a dump on my state as a vehicle for delivering his sensitive point of view. Would've had much more respect for him if he could've made his case without sh*tting all over his fantasy of New Jersey
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Imo the message was a lead balloon due to the jersey stuff. Highly offended that he took a dump on my state as a vehicle for delivering his sensitive point of view. Would've had much more respect for him if he could've made his case without sh*tting all over his fantasy of New Jersey

Blame MTV, and the cast of The Jersey Shore!

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We're supposed to want chicks that don't do porn sh*t? GTFO.

 

Incorrect.  In the right context, two people should be able to happily do whatever things they wanna do to make each other satisfied.  JGL's character was dissatisfied with his sex life because he didn't care about the women AND because they thought too highly of themselves to be willing to do any of the things he liked.  

 

Scarlett Johansson's character wasn't blameless, because she used her sexuality as a means to control JGL's character.  Whereas he and the old chick he met just wanted to make the other person happy, as it should be.

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Correct.  Getting laid wasn't good enough for him because 1) He didn't care about the women he was banging, and 2) They weren't doing the things he saw in porn.  Once he started pulling himself away from porn and met a woman he actually did care about, his outlook on women changed.  That seemed to be the take-home to me, anyways.  The Jersey stuff was just a distraction.

 

 

 

Holy sh*t, 80 totally gets it. 

 

 

Well yeah and at the same time...NO.  No he doesn't get IT.   LOL

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Incorrect. In the right context, two people should be able to happily do whatever things they wanna do to make each other satisfied. JGL's character was dissatisfied with his sex life because he didn't care about the women AND because they thought too highly of themselves to be willing to do any of the things he liked.

Scarlett Johansson's character wasn't blameless, because she used her sexuality as a means to control JGL's character. Whereas he and the old chick he met just wanted to make the other person happy, as it should be.

I think you have unrealistic expectations of women.

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If this movie came out while I was in college I would have thought JGL was a bitch who couldn't get laid. Maybe I just went to a freaky college. Now in the real world I agree to an extent on the basic premise.

Now I just think he's a fag because there's no reason whatsoever that the movie should've taken place in NJ with a bunch of Jersey Shore wannabe guidos and the token black friend (news flash JGL the guidos and brothas dont mix), and the father played by ******* TONY DANZA?!

also insult to injury they had a Carls Junior commercial in an early scene, now he's really pissing on us, either saying **** you NJ I'm gonna throw this in here just to prove to you that I wanna make this as unlike jersey as possible OR he's just a California a$$hole who is ignorant to the fact that carls junior DOESNT OPERATE in New Jersey or the east coast I believe for that matter

 

I hear that Tony actually did a good job in the film.

 

I worked on the screenplay with him in rehearsals, getting him ready to shoot by the time he got to L.A.. We worked on four scenes, I played Joseph's part in rehearsals and thought Tony was doing well from the several rehearsals we had. It was a great experience, we actually cooked an Italian dinner and rehearsed the dinner scenes and ate at the same time.

 

Tony is a friend of mine so I might be a little biased, but I don't think he deserves the disrespect, to be honest. He works very hard on things he is passionate about and is a great guy, a good man.

 

I haven't seen the film, it was out at a very busy time for me, but I think Joseph might have been a little broad, so I can see what you're saying about him playing this guy from NJ.

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I hear that Tony actually did a good job in the film.

I worked on the screenplay with him in rehearsals, getting him ready to shoot by the time he got to L.A.. We worked on four scenes, I played Joseph's part in rehearsals and thought Tony was doing well from the several rehearsals we had. It was a great experience, we actually cooked an Italian dinner and rehearsed the dinner scenes and ate at the same time.

Tony is a friend of mine so I might be a little biased, but I don't think he deserves the disrespect, to be honest. He works very hard on things he is passionate about and is a great guy, a good man.

I haven't seen the film, it was out at a very busy time for me, but I think Joseph might have been a little broad, so I can see what you're saying about him playing this guy from NJ.

I saw Tony on Sept 11 actually, he came into our office to call customers to get charity money. He is a good man. He was skinny as **** though. I thought maybe he had some medical issues. But I now see he was in shape for the film. DANZA was just the stereotypical actor for the scene Justin was trying to portray and it pissed me off to no end. No knock on Tony himself. If anything please tell him we are eternally grateful for his efforts at BGC charity day

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  • 4 weeks later...

Just watched this movie again and I don't know what you people are hardcore critiquing about.  I think this movie was, for the most part, straight up spitting truth.  The following revelations were on display:

 

1.  We live in an overtly and excessively sexualized culture.  I know, "Duh", but still.  That Hardee's commercial when the family was sitting around watching football was hilarious but also sad.  It's inescapable.  Every product out there can be sold to us with sex, and we all just sit and take it.  Because.....f*ck it, that girl's hot.

 

 

2.  Porn (and of course, sex) is addictive in nature, and this is a bad thing.  We didn't really need scientists to explain it, but it's worth noting anyways.  The chemicals released and brain pattern revealed when orgasm occurs mimic the effects of heroin.  So of course pornography is highly addictive, and both porn and sex addiction are real things.  And it's not a harmless vice.  Yes, drug addiction is an ugly thing, and I'm not minimizing it.  But porn addiction isn't out in the open.  It's easy to hide it.  It's taboo to talk about it, as this movie also revealed. 

 

And it can have destructive consequences.  I've heard of several marriages that were, in part, ruined or nearly ruined by porn and sex addiction.  Not to mention it has the more subtle impact than just "getting caught" in that it can ruin intimacy.  Watching porn is a selfish act by nature.  You only care about your own needs being met.  So it makes sense that the character Don Jon had to learn from Julianne Moore's character how to receive AND give.  Lot's of guys end up like him in our culture.  They only care about getting off.

 

Don't get me wrong.  Our desires are good things.  They just have to manifest themselves in the right way.  Studies show some of the happiest people out there were monogamous.  Finding the right person and sharing that gift only with that person isn't such a terrible way to live your life.

 

 

3.  Women have their own type of porn.  And, for some, this manifests itself in being a controlling b*tch.  This kind of woman (definitively in the minority) cares most about having a guy who worships the ground they walk on.  They know they can use sex to get a man to do most anything.  And this is, of course, what was going on with Scarlett Johannson's character.  Their "porn" is the fantasy that a guy will throw away everything he loves and do what she wants.  I'd say that's a pretty dangerous trend too.

 

 

It's no wonder 60 % of marriages end in divorce.  Relationships get corrupted from the start by self-centered behavior.  For the man it tends to manifest in lust.  For women, it's with control.  In both instances, it's ultimately PRIDE.

 

So yeah, I'd say I liked this movie.

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