jorge o8 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Please be more informed when you makes such statements - these are the NFL overall ranks Ranking 6 overall is a pretty damn good running attack. And when you run the ball well, guess what? It supposed to set up the pass. So much for that when it comes to Eugene. JETS PTS 18.1 (29th) YDS 318.1 (25th) PASS YDS 183.2 (31st) RUSH YDS 134.9 (6th) Eugene's stats TDS 12 INT 21 YDS 3,046 RTG 66.5 Ranked dead last amongst NLF starting qb's. and if had anybody that can catch the ball or get open maybe just maybe he would not suck as much thats my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The more I saw of Geno the more it seems his success in college was due to having Tayvon Austin than anything he did. http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cfb/players.asp?id=183935 http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cfb/players.asp?id=183954 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No matter how many times you say it, it won't make Kiper or McShay actual scouts or General Managers. Players get selected exactly where they are rated by the league, that's how it works. Geno was one of the best QBs in college football that year so all the fake scouts and draftniks had him going number one, but once again, they aren't real scouts. You honestly think the general managers and scouts just got around to looking at Geno a month before the draft and realized he had holes in his game? That's not how it works. He was scouted since he was a sophomore, not a few weeks prior to the draft. We have differing opinions on how he handled this year and how he'll do next year, that's fine, but your assertion that he's a bust, because he was rated as a top 10 pick by a bunch of guys who aren't in the NFL, is just absurd. Geno and every other player who was chosen in the second round, were chosen there because that's where they were ranked by scouts and GMs, regardless of what Kiper or McShay had to say. First you are wrong about him NOT be regarded as the No.1 pick. He was considered by many top football minds to be so. Did you read some of those articles I left for you? He was considered the BEST QB in the draft yet Manuel was picked with the 16th pick. Even he was shocked. His down fall came when execs witnessed his spoiled attitude at the combine. Talking on his cell at the combine turned off so many execs and his I know it all attitude showed his true colors. My assertion that he's a bust isn't based on the fact that he fell from No. 1 to 39. It just shows how weary execs were of this clown. Whether he was selected 1 or 39 or 59 or 109 or 209 - that's not the point - his performance and immaturity illustrate he is a bust and will continue to make a fool of himself. 2nd round picks are gold. Idzik wasted it on Eugene. We could have had Eddie Lacy who I really wanted. Lacy demolished and embarrassed ND at the bowl game. I knew this guy would be a rampaging bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 First you are wrong about him NOT be regarded as the No.1 pick. He was considered by many top football minds to be so. Did you read some of those articles I left for you? He was considered the BEST QB in the draft yet Manuel was picked with the 16th pick. Even he was shocked. His down fall came when execs witnessed his spoiled attitude at the combine. Talking on his cell at the combine turned off so many execs and his I know it all attitude showed his true colors. My assertion that he's a bust isn't based on the fact that he fell from No. 1 to 39. It just shows how weary execs were of this clown. Whether he was selected 1 or 39 or 59 or 109 or 209 - that's not the point - his performance and immaturity illustrate he is a bust and will continue to make a fool of himself. 2nd round picks are gold. Idzik wasted it on Eugene. We could have had Eddie Lacy who I really wanted. Lacy demolished and embarrassed ND at the bowl game. I knew this guy would be a rampaging bull. Your rampaging bull averaged 4.1 a carry. We did better with our fourth rounder than we would've at two taking Lacy. Your man, just like most running backs, is a JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 First you are wrong about him NOT be regarded as the No.1 pick. He was considered by many top football minds to be so. Did you read some of those articles I left for you? He was considered the BEST QB in the draft yet Manuel was picked with the 16th pick. Even he was shocked. His down fall came when execs witnessed his spoiled attitude at the combine. Talking on his cell at the combine turned off so many execs and his I know it all attitude showed his true colors. My assertion that he's a bust isn't based on the fact that he fell from No. 1 to 39. It just shows how weary execs were of this clown. Whether he was selected 1 or 39 or 59 or 109 or 209 - that's not the point - his performance and immaturity illustrate he is a bust and will continue to make a fool of himself. 2nd round picks are gold. Idzik wasted it on Eugene. We could have had Eddie Lacy who I really wanted. Lacy demolished and embarrassed ND at the bowl game. I knew this guy would be a rampaging bull. Just out of curiosity, do you know what GENO scored on the wonderlick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just out of curiosity, do you know what GENO scored on the wonderlick? You cannot talk about an intelligence test if you cannot spell it. That is the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 ^^^ +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 First you are wrong about him NOT be regarded as the No.1 pick. He was considered by many top football minds to be so. Did you read some of those articles I left for you? He was considered the BEST QB in the draft yet Manuel was picked with the 16th pick. Even he was shocked. His down fall came when execs witnessed his spoiled attitude at the combine. Talking on his cell at the combine turned off so many execs and his I know it all attitude showed his true colors. My assertion that he's a bust isn't based on the fact that he fell from No. 1 to 39. It just shows how weary execs were of this clown. Whether he was selected 1 or 39 or 59 or 109 or 209 - that's not the point - his performance and immaturity illustrate he is a bust and will continue to make a fool of himself. 2nd round picks are gold. Idzik wasted it on Eugene. We could have had Eddie Lacy who I really wanted. Lacy demolished and embarrassed ND at the bowl game. I knew this guy would be a rampaging bull. Most of what you said is hearsay. Has there been an exec to put their name on these comments? Im not saying you're wrong, it could very well be true. My problem is that it was stated that exec's witness a spoiled attitude and him being on his cell during the combine yet none of these "personality traits" if you will have come out during an entire year with a Jets team that's had its share of adversity. Geno's been a mature professional from what I've witnessed from him. So it doesnt seem to me that these things you present (which contributed to his slide in the draft) are accurate at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 You cannot talk about an intelligence test if you cannot spell it. That is the rule. No, I spelled it right. The NFL spells it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 No, I spelled it right. The NFL spells it wrong. Yup, E.F. Wonderlic was spelling his name wrong all that time. And he's coming up with an intelligence test?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yup, E.F. Wonderlic was spelling his name wrong all that time. And he's coming up with an intelligence test?? I cant help it if the dude forgot to add a K to his name. Anyway, what did Geno score? do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Your rampaging bull averaged 4.1 a carry. We did better with our fourth rounder than we would've at two taking Lacy. Your man, just like most running backs, is a JAG. Seriously dude - nearly 1200 yards for a rook and he even didn't play first 2 games much. Ranked as 8th best back. Ask if the Pack would trade him for our first round pick in the upcoming draft and throw in Eugene for good measure. You know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I cant help it if the dude forgot to add a K to his name. Anyway, what did Geno score? do you know? A hell of a lot less than your boy from Cornell will score, that I'm sure of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Seriously dude - nearly 1200 yards for a rook and he even didn't play first 2 games much. Ranked as 8th best back. Ask if the Pack would trade him for our first round pick in the upcoming draft and throw in Eugene for good measure. You know the answer. 4.1 JAG Running backs are eminently replaceable. Especially JAGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I cant help it if the dude forgot to add a K to his name. Anyway, what did Geno score? do you know? He didn't take the test - he was thrown out of the test for using his cell phone during the test - he said they threw him out because he was black. He was then escorted out of the test center building by cops and dropped off at ATT&T to recharge his phone. He autographed dick pics and gave them to the cops for their assistance. What a guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 4.1 JAG Running backs are eminently replaceable. Especially JAGs. JAP just another post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 A hell of a lot less than your boy from Cornell will score, that I'm sure of. Did you see what Ryan Fitzpatrick scored when he came out? Like a 48. Mathews is an academic all-american already, and could score higher than Geno on the wonderlic (sp?), even if he was blindfolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Most of what you said is hearsay. Has there been an exec to put their name on these comments? Im not saying you're wrong, it could very well be true. My problem is that it was stated that exec's witness a spoiled attitude and him being on his cell during the combine yet none of these "personality traits" if you will have come out during an entire year with a Jets team that's had its share of adversity. Geno's been a mature professional from what I've witnessed from him. So it doesnt seem to me that these things you present (which contributed to his slide in the draft) are accurate at all. Mature? hmmm yelling at a airline stewardess and getting thrown out of a major airport - sending dick pics - yea that's mature. Unbelievable how you guys rationalize this bum's play and behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He didn't take the test - he was thrown out of the test for using his cell phone during the test - he said they threw him out because he was black. He was then escorted out of the test center building by cops and dropped off at ATT&T to recharge his phone. He autographed dick pics and gave them to the cops for their assistance. What a guy! Who was he calling? HelpImhopelesslystumped.com when he got to the following: If it takes 4 quarts to make 1 gallon, how many gallons does 2 quarts make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Did you see what Ryan Fitzpatrick scored when he came out? Like a 48. Mathews is an academic all-american already, and could score higher than Geno on the wonderlic (sp?), even if he was blindfolded. Are you trying to prove yourself wrong? Ryan Fitzpatrick could find a way to cure cancer, his career interception to td ratio would still be almost one to one. Brett Favre is Stephen Hawking compared to him on a football field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Who was he calling? HelpImhopelesslystumped.com when he got to the following: If it takes 4 quarts to make 1 gallon, how many gallons does 2 quarts make? He was calling his algebra teacher from the 4th grade and yelling at him for throwing him out of class - he said he was thrown out of class because he was black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Who was he calling? HelpImhopelesslystumped.com when he got to the following: If it takes 4 quarts to make 1 gallon, how many gallons does 2 quarts make? Eugene pauses - looks at his jersey and his answer is 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Are you trying to prove yourself wrong? Ryan Fitzpatrick could find a way to cure cancer, his career interception to td ratio would still be almost one to one. Brett Favre is Stephen Hawking compared to him on a football field. Yeah, I know. I hope Mathews turns out better than Fitz, but those Ivy League boys can sure tear up that 5th grade test. You would think that the NFL would waive the Ivy League guys from taking that test, but I gues they have got to prove to themselves that those 7th grade algebra questions arent as tough as some of those rocket scientists make them out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yeah, I know. I hope Mathews turns out better than Fitz, but those Ivy League boys can sure tear up that 5th grade test. You would think that the NFL would waive the Ivy League guys from taking that test, but I gues they have got to prove to themselves that those 7th grade algebra questions arent as tough as some of those rocket scientists make them out to be. Here's the test: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1535104-how-smart-are-you-take-the-wonderlic-test-find-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Vünterlïchst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Vünterlïchst Wonderlic in german? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Here's the test: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1535104-how-smart-are-you-take-the-wonderlic-test-find-out WOW, now I really feel sorry for Vince Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Here's the test: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1535104-how-smart-are-you-take-the-wonderlic-test-find-out wow what a stupid ass test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 First you are wrong about him NOT be regarded as the No.1 pick. He was considered by many top football minds to be so. Did you read some of those articles I left for you? He was considered the BEST QB in the draft yet Manuel was picked with the 16th pick. Even he was shocked. His down fall came when execs witnessed his spoiled attitude at the combine. Talking on his cell at the combine turned off so many execs and his I know it all attitude showed his true colors. My assertion that he's a bust isn't based on the fact that he fell from No. 1 to 39. It just shows how weary execs were of this clown. Whether he was selected 1 or 39 or 59 or 109 or 209 - that's not the point - his performance and immaturity illustrate he is a bust and will continue to make a fool of himself. 2nd round picks are gold. Idzik wasted it on Eugene. We could have had Eddie Lacy who I really wanted. Lacy demolished and embarrassed ND at the bowl game. I knew this guy would be a rampaging bull. No, I don't read bleacher report or any other sites that have their material comprised by the average fan for that matter. McShay and Kiper are now top football minds? Righto. And the Daily News and Times articles were prior to the information coming out that his agents advised him to skip the senior bowel; providing your clients with poor information is grounds for being fired, that's how businesses work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Mature? hmmm yelling at a airline stewardess and getting thrown out of a major airport - sending dick pics - yea that's mature. Unbelievable how you guys rationalize this bum's play and behavior. Oh, so you mean the two things that's happened in the span of a couple weeks the moment his first season has concluded and he was on offseason? One where a chick is being a chick and the other where we're not even sure if he was escorted by police or not and we cant even hear the convo at hand? lol you sound like such a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Oh, so you mean the two things that's happened in the span of a couple weeks the moment his first season has concluded and he was on offseason? One where a chick is being a chick and the other where we're not even sure if he was escorted by police or not and we cant even hear the convo at hand? lol you sound like such a hater. saying I hate him is being kind lol - isn't that funny lol - no? lol - now that's funny lol no ? lol - you guys are hilarious - I cant wait till Eugene self destructs and he is JET-TISONED from the4 Jets - I am sure you will all come to his rescue - you can all send each other dic pics in memorandum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I cant help it if the dude forgot to add a K to his name. Anyway, what did Geno score? do you know? He scored a respectable 24, same as RGIII and one under Ben Roethlisberger's 25. Greg McElroy and Blaine Gabbert scored a very high 43 and 42 respectively. Remind me why they give this test again? http://outkickthecoverage.com/wonderlic-scores-leak-for-quarterbacks.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 He scored a respectable 24, same as RGIII and one under Ben Roethlisberger's 25. Greg McElroy and Blaine Gabbert scored a very high 43 and 42 respectively. Remind me why they give this test again? http://outkickthecoverage.com/wonderlic-scores-leak-for-quarterbacks.php To embarrass Institutes of Higher Learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Please be more informed when you makes such statements - these are the NFL overall ranks Ranking 6 overall is a pretty damn good running attack. And when you run the ball well, guess what? It supposed to set up the pass. So much for that when it comes to Eugene. JETS PTS 18.1 (29th) YDS 318.1 (25th) PASS YDS 183.2 (31st) RUSH YDS 134.9 (6th) Eugene's stats TDS 12 INT 21 YDS 3,046 RTG 66.5 Ranked dead last amongst NLF starting qb's. Excellent post. I was very happy with our RB's this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 saying I hate him is being kind lol - isn't that funny lol - no? lol - now that's funny lol no ? lol - you guys are hilarious - I cant wait till Eugene self destructs and he is JET-TISONED from the4 Jets - I am sure you will all come to his rescue - you can all send each other dic pics in memorandum This is the 2nd time you've referred to this mans dic pics. Feeling a little claustrophobic in that closet huh? When you want to talk about his professionalism and alleged exec comments then I'll deal with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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