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ah... the poster who is so completely incapable of putting together a coherent argument, that he constantly fabricates things and credits them to people that never said anything close to it.

 

if no one has any problem with the league's new rule why is this thread 6 pages long? must be 6  pages of congratulations

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Just call them "redskins." That's cool.

Otherwise known as a Phish concert.

I dunno..... no sure I'd tune in to watch if the Jets line was made up of you, aten, rjf, dbatesman and tomshane wearing rainbow tutu's, playing an organized activity with no aggressive touching or sp

if no one has any problem with the league's new rule why is this thread 6 pages long? must be 6  pages of congratulations

The rule opens Pandora's box in my opinion. If I'm say Polish (which I am) and someone makes a derogatory comment about my heritage. Do I run to the ref and say, Ok that dude just insulted my heritage, and he gets nothing but if I call him the N-word, I get 15.

 

Dangerous precedent being set by Goodell and the rules committee.

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if no one has any problem with the league's new rule why is this thread 6 pages long? must be 6  pages of congratulations

 

nice try, but this is nowhere close to the position you took.  what you said was a 100% blatant lie attempting to apply a racist position to Larz which he came nowhere close to taking.

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btw Larz i apologize i totally misread your comment and got confused to what we were talking about

 

sorry everyone... sorry 

 

 

Let's make this real simple for you, the nonsense you spew does not exist in the real world.  If you somehow still believe it to be true, you're a complete nutjob.  On the other hand, if you don't believe your own nonsense and are just intentionally being an a$$hole, then I suppose well played by you.

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I'm trying to figure out what kind of hold or power the Fritz Pollard Alliance has over the NFL. It's not that I would even oppose the rule per se (I'm undecided) but I'm just curious as to how they seem to dictate these things to the NFL as if they're a part of the decision-making process.

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The rule opens Pandora's box in my opinion. If I'm say Polish (WHICH I AM) and someone makes a derogatory comment about my heritage. Do I run to the ref and say, Ok that dude just insulted my heritage, and he gets nothing but if I call him the N-word, I get 15.

 

Dangerous precedent being set by Goodell and the rules committee.

That explains a lot

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In all seriousness, I'd imagine the use of the N-word in a pejorative manner on an NFL field would be fairly well self-policed, no?

You would think.

 

Of course if it's as rampant as we would be lead to believe, not sure why Riley Cooper using it on his own time was such a big deal.

 

I'm just wondering at who's behest they explored instituting the rule. Seems like a PR move more than anything. They covered women by dressing in disgusting pink for a whole month. Now this.

 

I could be wrong, but I just can't imagine guys using that word in the offensive vein and being surrounded by black teammates, many of whom are friends.

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You would think.

Of course if it's as rampant as we would be lead to believe, not sure why Riley Cooper using it on his own time was such a big deal.

I'm just wondering at who's behest they explored instituting the rule. Seems like a PR move more than anything. They covered women by dressing in disgusting pink for a whole month. Now this.

I could be wrong, but I just can't imagine guys using that word in the offensive vein and being surrounded by black teammates, many of whom are friends.

Exactly. I think it's a nominal effort in recompense for looking like racists over the Redskins thing. They should call this the Snyder Compensation Rule.

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Referees T up college basketball (and I presume NBA) coaches for dropping F bombs, even when talking to their own team, so not really a big deal.  I'm just wondering what the refs will say when they announce those penalties. 

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Player A made fun of Player B's mother  (no penalty)

Player B said he did such and such with Player A's sister (no penalty)

Player A said that player B has sex with marsupials, and reptiles (no penalty)

Player B said that player A manufactures and delivers Kiddy porn (no penalty)

Player A called player B the N-word (15 yard penalty)

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thinking this through... the league wants to avoid another iNcognito situation. How to do that? The only thing these neanderthals understand is penalties. Coaches will ream a guy out for going offsides in practice because they don't want it to happen in the game. Similarly coaches will be more attentive to this sort of behavior in practices and locker rooms because they don't want it to happen in the game. 

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thinking this through... the league wants to avoid another iNcognito situation. How to do that? The only thing these neanderthals understand is penalties. Coaches will ream a guy out for going offsides in practice because they don't want it to happen in the game. Similarly coaches will be more attentive to this sort of behavior in practices and locker rooms because they don't want it to happen in the game. 

 

For someone who pretends to cover the draft you sure don't like football players.

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For someone who pretends to cover the draft you sure don't like football players.

 

I don't have alot of faith in mankind in general.  

 

 Btw i was talking about the coaches. they are the neaderthals. Like that hero who gave out blowup dolls. The only way the coaches will be motivated to stop racial behavior off the field is if it's a bad habit they won't want carried on to the field.  because the only thing that matters to the coaches is winning. Their jobs literally depend on it. A HC like Philbin will take notice if the player is doing something in practice that could be penalized in a game. 

 

this isn't about assigning 15 yards in the middle of the game. it's about creating a rule that changes off the field behavior. the league probably hopes this flag is never thrown.  it's like the rule that players and coaches can't encroach on the sideline and teams responded by denoting a "get back" coach. But it's a penalty that's almost never called. 

 

There might be a coach looking for racial words now. 

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I don't have alot of faith in mankind in general. Btw i was talking about the coaches. The only way they will be motivated to stop racial behavior off the field is if it's a bad habit they won't want carried on to the field.  because the only thing that matters to the coaches is winning. Their jobs literally depend on it.

 

this isn't about assigning 15 yards in the middle of the game. it's about creating a rule that changes off the field behavior. the league probably hopes this flag is never thrown. 

 

Merely window dressing for a problem that doesn't even exist.

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Merely window dressing for a problem that doesn't even exist.

 

You can pretend it doesn't exist but the fact remains Jon Martin left the team and he went public with all sorts of terrible news. the league doesn't enjoy all this attention on their locker rooms. They don't want it to happen again.  

 

 

Wait- is it a racial problem or a blow up doll problem?

 

It's both. the league will probably  also penalize homophobic words in the same rule. and that translates to teams not allowing their players and coaches to get into bad habits that could get them penalized. It's kind of ingenious actually. The way to change behavior is to make it in the teams' best interest to police the bad behavior. 

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You can pretend it doesn't exist but the fact remains Jon Martin left the team and he went public with all sorts of terrible news. the league doesn't enjoy all this attention on their locker rooms. They don't want it to happen again.  

 

 

 

It's both. the league will probably  also penalize homophobic words in the same rule. and that translates to teams not allowing their players and coaches to get into bad habits that could get them penalized. It's kind of ingenious actually. The way to change behavior is to make it in the teams' best interest to police the bad behavior. 

 

you're never changing the behavior of a person who's paid to hit people for a living.

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you're never changing the behavior of a person who's paid to hit people for a living.

 

Coaches coach. They change behavior every practice. Or at least try to.

 

This is just gonna be another item of coaching. Get both feet in bounds on a reception. Don't hit the QB in the head. Don't say racial or homophobic things. It's just another tendency to address.

 

The key was getting the coaches on board and a 15 yard penalty will get their attention. 

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Can't wait for the first flag. "Wait was was that for Bob?" "I don't know Mike, looks like a personal foul not sure what for." "I can't figure this one out."

Camera zoom.

"Oh my we've got the N word here Bob"

"Oh my"

"Oh my"

Message boards blow up.

CNN...ABC headlines..."the real NFL"

Good PR Rog.

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