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NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports the Panthers are "attempting to trade" Steve Smith.

In other words, Smith will likely be cut if a trade partner can't be found. Considering that Smith turns 35 in May and is due $7 million in 2014, the Panthers aren't going to find a taker. In theory, it's surprising that it would come to this with one of the greatest players in Panthers history, but Smith appeared to have lost multiple steps last season. Excusing his rookie year and injury-ruined 2004, Smith's 745 yards were the second fewest of his career. With or without Smith, the Panthers have a desperate need at wideout.

 

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'splain Lucy.

I like Steve Smith but he's going on 35 and he's not a receiver I want around when he loses a couple more steps. I dont see him ageing gracefully especially in our offense. My flat out no was to the thread that got merged suggesting we might call about trading for him.

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I like Steve Smith but he's going on 35 and he's not a receiver I want around when he loses a couple more steps. I dont see him ageing gracefully especially in our offense. My flat out no was to the thread that got merged suggesting we might call about trading for him.

 

 

Gotcha.  I am with you on that. I wouldn't trade ugatz for him.  I would pick him up on the cheap if he does happen to wind up on the Hackensack scrap heap looking for a short term, no pain deal.

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You know Hicks is 26 right?

 

I think my point didn't come across. 

I'd rather have Steve Smith, an old, declining star  ---- than Nicks, a guy who has never truly lived up to his potential. I know Nicks is 26, but nothing about his play has ever given me the impression that he'll take the next step. Last season in particular, he looked pathetic.

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I think my point didn't come across.

I'd rather have Steve Smith, an old, declining star ---- than Nicks, a guy who has never truly lived up to his potential. I know Nicks is 26, but nothing about his play has ever given me the impression that he'll take the next step. Last season in particular, he looked pathetic.

Nicks on a cheap prove himself one year deal is not a bad move though.
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Nicks on a cheap prove himself one year deal is not a bad move though.

Okay. I suspect a lesser organization is just going to pay him though, none of this prove it stuff everyone seems to think agents must love. LOL

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Steve Smith?  Nicks?  I don't care.  Which ever one is going to give us 50/800 cheapest sign on up.  I don't know what everybody else is expecting, but that is what I expect, even want, from a FA WR.  I don't expect 80/1300 and I think you're crazy or at least a little reckless if you do. 

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Smith is a douche. He's also not nearly the player he was and I don't know that 800 yards is even realistic.

Nicks is lazy. What kind of a player not fully run out every route in a contract year? The kind who's going to do it even more after he's got guaranteed dollars on a new contract.

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Nicks is lazy. What kind of a player not fully run out every route in a contract year? The kind who's going to do it even more after he's got guaranteed dollars on a new contract.

The kind of player who had knee, foot & abdominal problems from 2012-2013? He still caught 55 balls last year albeit no touchdowns.

He averages 8/70/1,000 when healthy and is 26 years old.

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i have always loved steve smith. he is a tough, gritty player who leaves it all on the field. that's why it hurts me to say he shouldn't be on jets radar. he's got two years left tops and the jets can't justify bringing in a player like him with the current QB situation. i'd prefer going young and hope by the time the young guys develop, we have the qb situation in good enough shape to make a run.

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Smith is a douche. He's also not nearly the player he was and I don't know that 800 yards is even realistic.

Nicks is lazy. What kind of a player not fully run out every route in a contract year? The kind who's going to do it even more after he's got guaranteed dollars on a new contract.

 

maybe some unc homerism here but i don't think lazy is the right word. if anything, maybe he doesn't fight very hard through injuries but even that is a stretch. lis franc is notoriously difficult to come back from and what i saw out of him in 2013 very much looked like a player with a bum wheel.

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maybe some unc homerism here but i don't think lazy is the right word. if anything, maybe he doesn't fight very hard through injuries but even that is a stretch. lis franc is notoriously difficult to come back from and what i saw out of him in 2013 very much looked like a player with a bum wheel.

 

Break the bank!

 

Lazy or injured.  Doesn't really matter.  Both are red flags for a contract.  I'm sure somewhere there is a board having the same conversation about Santonio Holmes. 

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Break the bank!

 

Lazy or injured.  Doesn't really matter.  Both are red flags for a contract.  I'm sure somewhere there is a board having the same conversation about Santonio Holmes. 

 

the question is was he 100% last year and if not, will he ever be again? guarantee you are correct about the santonio convos!

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I'll take SS all dayy.  He may have lost a step but the dude can catch like the best of them, strong veteran, will smack Geno in the face if need be, and gives some damn attitude to last years pussy-footed team.  For the right price, I am sold. And not to mention he can mentor the likes of Kerley and other young wideouts we bring on.  

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Mentor?  elohel

 

 

Steve Smith vs. The World
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Steve Smith is a fighter. It’s just that he has spent 12 years in Carolina, playing pro football in college basketball country, on the maddeningly mediocre Panthers, so not too many people keep up with his battles. Hell, just the other day, hefired a shot across the bow of his ex–offensive coordinator, current Browns head coach Rob Chudzinski:

The prior offensive coordinator really was positioning himself to just apply for that head coaching job … I think our offense suffered a little bit because of that … At times, we got cute. We did things that weren’t necessarily us, like the under-utilizing of [running back] Mike Tolbert. But we’re out of that. The past is the past.

This is the you-get-half-a-bar of peer reviews if there ever was one. Football is supposed to be about individual battles and team wars and all that, but few NFL players actually exemplify that conflict and turmoil, nor show their emotion and passion inherent in living that kind of life, quite like Smith does. He is one of the more bracingly human athletes that I can remember watching. So here’s a look at his career, via some of his greatest bouts.

Steve Smith vs. His Teammates

Let’s get this out of the way first: Steve Smith beat the crap out of three of his teammates. In 2002 he got in a fight with fellow receiver Guilian Gary. Later that same year, he broke the nose of another receiver, Anthony Bright, during a film session. He was charged with assault for that altercation. Five years later, he again broke a teammate’s nose; this time it was cornerback Ken Lucas.

The account of the Bright fight is pretty horrifying, with reports suggesting that Smith became enraged with Bright after the practice squad player asked for a play to be shown again, and then jumped him after the lights were turned out during a film session (“all hell broke loose”). Bright wound up suing Smith in 2004, claiming that the fight ruined his NFL career.

Since I’m about to talk about what a badass Steve Smith is for the rest of this post, I feel like it’s only right to point out that he has done some pretty deplorable things during his playing career. He knows this; if you want to see how much these incidents have worn on him, watchthe E:60 segment about his violent outbursts.

According to an ESPN The Magazine feature on the incident, it sounds like Lucas and Smith had been going at each other in practices when Smith snapped. And the aftermath of that incident has been kind of fascinating. For as disturbing as the fight was, their public and private reconciliation served as a catalyst for the team that season, which the Panthers finished with a 12-4 record. When Smith caught his first touchdown that season, following the fight, he ran over to Lucas and presented him with the ball. Lucas said after the game, “Since day one, since the moment it happened, he has done everything that a man could ever do from a forgiveness standpoint … My hat is off to him. I’m surprised, but I’m not surprised.”

Later, Smith would tell ESPN The Magazine, “Yeah, we’re friends … We just didn’t take the normal way of finding that out.”

Steve Smith vs. The New Orleans Saints

Remember Bountygate? Steve Smith does. The Carolina man was one of those reportedly targeted by Gregg Williams’s league of extraordinary cheap-shot artists. Did Smith mind having bounties put on various parts of his body? “This isn’t powder puff.”

Steve Smith vs. Michael Johnson (and the frailty of his own arm)

In 2009, New York Giants safety Michael Johnson broke Smith’s arm. Then Smith broke his arm again playing flag football the following January, in 2010. Lesson one here is obvious: Don’t play flag football with Steve Smith. Lesson two: Steve Smith never forgets. When asked by Peter King if he would be ready in time to play the Giants in the 2010 season, Smith replied, “I’d bet my game check on it … I’m going after him.” Smith later apologized for the comments.

Steve Smith vs. Jake Delhomme

These guys were like Maverick and Goose from Top Gun, except in their version Maverick regularly flew his F-16 right into a mountain. I’m still not sure if Jake Delhomme’s 2009 season wasn’t an act of performance art. Right before the season, he got his five-year, $42.5 million extension. He then celebrated by essentially lighting all that money on fire, throwing seven picks in his first three games, including four in the season opener. It was during that game, against the Eagles, that Smith showed what kind of teammate and friend he was by … well, by sitting down next to a crestfallen Delhomme and breaking his balls a little:

“Hey, I know you feel like crap. I mean, you’re not a very handsome guy anyway, so. But, the performer, the quarterback … I never really liked you as a quarterback. But as a person, that’s who I love. I love you as a person.”

Hold on, that quote needs a soundtrack …

Steve Smith and Jake Delhomme vs. Bojangles’ Chicken

What the sh*t is going on here?

Steve Smith vs. Mark Sanchez

Steve Smith on the New York Jets quarterback, while cohosting a Carolina sports radio show: “He sucks. I wouldn’t let Mark Sanchez throw me a paper bag sandwich.”

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Sanchez’s reaction? “You have to ask Steve. I wish him and his team a healthy and successful season.”

Steve Smith vs. Von Miller

Good-bye, Von Miller. They will sing your name in the Hall of Fame For Dudes Who Got Laid Out By Steve Smith.

Steve Smith vs. Referees and the Infirm

Here’s Smith after a 2011 loss to the Vikings: “If the ref says it’s holding, I can sit here and say this and that. But at the end of the day he’s the guy with the flag and he calls it … I got a few texts already saying in the HD it didn’t look too bad. But for a 70-year-old man gimping down the field, I guess that’s what he saw.”

The People vs. Steve Smith

Here’s a life tip: If you’re going to go at Steve Smith, know that he very well may go back.

Here he is getting after it with some Eagles fans:

And here he is arguing his moral responsibility to sign stuff for annoying, teenage Jets fans.

“I love my 14-year-old son, but if he was ever talking the way you guys are, he wouldn’t have any teeth.” Word. Parenting.

Steve Smith vs. Robert Mays

244 total yards againt the Bears in the 2005 playoffs. MAYYYYYYYS.

Steve Smith vs. the 2012 Panthers

When the 2-8 Panthers met up with the 3-7 Eagles last November, Smith was asked to assess the entertainment value of the clash: “Oh, it’s real exciting.” In the same interview, he was asked how hungry Carolina was for a win: “How about malnutrition? Well beyond [hunger] … Searching through the trash, looking for any scraps. I think we’re there.”

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/steve-smith-vs-the-world/

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