#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 @AdamSchefter: Saints still haven’t released RB Darren Sproles and now plan to trade him due to heavy interest, per ESPN source. Not being released, though Probably not here. Considering the deal McCluster got, I'm not surprised. Sproles is probably a bit better, $1M less and no guarantee. That is worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I'm not sure what this points out. ESPN lists him as a FS, but that is traditionally a role that is depicted by the deep man in a Cover-1 scheme. As I mentioned, Rex likes his safeties to have the versatility to "switch" pre-snap to add an element of confusion to the offense, but I've yet to see Allen be the deep man. Yeah, idk. Rex's defenses are unique and its true that Byrd did great under Petine, so it probably would have translated here. I'm going to put the trust in Rex/Idzik that he wasnt worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 His coverage is a work in progress. Athletically, once he gets his technique down, he should be able to play FS. Either way, I dont want to pay a safety 8 million a year. He was basically a cover LB at SC. He really neither has the speed, hips or skill set you want in a cover free safety. It's why he lasted so long in the draft. I like him a lot and became a great asset vs more traditional pro set covering larger TEs but can be a liability in spread sets. Also playing in space is something he's never done and really isn't something that can be teach, it's all feel and angles. Landry was asked to play a lot more deep half a which he was getting beat over the top due to age and speed which is why they got Reed. Looked like Landry lost a step last year but really he's also more of a traditional SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Vick, Ware, and Revis, Does Idzik realize we're 2-3 years away from a Super Bowl run. With those three. You mean 2-3 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Jets fans on Twitter talking sh*t about all the value pickups they're about to make. Yesterday they were bragging about all the FA's that Rex was gonna pull in the minute free agency opened. Gotta love Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 From Kimberley Martin, Cowboys set to release Miles Austin, THIS IS WHY YOU WAIT. Uh yeah. That's gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Kolb got cut. Prefer to Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Yeah, idk. Rex's defenses are unique and its true that Byrd did great under Petine, so it probably would have translated here. I'm going to put the trust in Rex/Idzik that he wasnt worth the money. Not so fast, hombre. Byrd flew to New Orleans for a looksie. At the time of this post the Saints have around $2M in cap room, ranked 31st out of 32. His not being signed yet isn't an indication that we've given up on him. Who knows, maybe he just wanted to be wined and dined in the french quarter for a weekend; get away from the rain. http://www.spotrac.com/cap-tracker/nfl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 He was basically a cover LB at SC. He really neither has the speed, hips or skill set you want in a cover free safety. It's why he lasted so long in the draft. I like him a lot and became a great asset vs more traditional pro set covering larger TEs but can be a liability in spread sets. Also playing in space is something he's never done and really isn't something that can be teach, it's all feel and angles. Landry was asked to play a lot more deep half a which he was getting beat over the top due to age and speed which is why they got Reed. Looked like Landry lost a step last year but really he's also more of a traditional SS. My understanding was that Allen lasted until the 7th because he was not asked to play cover safety in college and no one knew for sure if he could. Not that he did not have the ability to do so, once taught. FWIW Rich Cimini @RichCimini Mar 10 Cromartie says S Antonio Allen has "freakish" talent, could be the next Ed Reed. Whoa, come back to us, Cro. #Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Kolb got cut. Prefer to Vick I did too until I saw that he's still yet to be cleared from the concussion he sustained last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Just because the market sets a price doesn't make him worth it. We have other needs, $8M for a safety just isn't worth it. That's his worth not sure what else to tell you but to repeat what I already stated. Bryd getting $8 mil sounds right whether you want to do it or not is another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Kolb got cut. Prefer to Vick We will wind up with Shaun HIll think about it last season we had David Garrard for a backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I did too until I saw that he's still yet to be cleared from the concussion he sustained last season. Still prefer to Vick We will wind up with Shaun HIll think about it last season we had David Garrard for a backup QB. Fine by me. Why put $10M up for a guy we don't want to see the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ok I was ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 My understanding was that Allen lasted until the 7th because he was not asked to play cover safety in college and no one knew for sure if he could. Not that he did not have the ability to do so, once taught. FWIW Rich Cimini @RichCimini Mar 10 Cromartie says S Antonio Allen has "freakish" talent, could be the next Ed Reed. Whoa, come back to us, Cro. #Jets You've quoted wiki and Cimini. Do you accept defeat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Jared Allen's first visit as a free agent will be with the Denver Broncos, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Pft saying Vick is fine waiting for the right spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Strief is a 30 year old right tackle who has played 41 games for the Saints. A good pass protector Strief could be an important cog in any offensive line and could certainly come in and play from the get go. This is one that I really like, and would welcome someone of Strief's ability to this line. PFF ranked Strief as the 7th best offensive tackle in the league last year. He allowed 3 sacks and 4 hits and just the 4 penalties on the season. http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/3/11/5498210/free-agency-jets-inquire-about-zach-strief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 For the first time in nine years, Troy Polamalu will be paired with a safety other than Ryan Clark. The Pittsburgh Steelers have agreed to terms with former Carolina Panthers safety Mike Mitchell, according to multiple reports. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000333137/article/mike-mitchell-pittsburgh-steelers-reach-agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 You've quoted wiki and Cimini. Do you accept defeat? lol. Cro's quote was the point. Sometimes safeties look slow when they are indecisive. We will see. My feeling is that Allen improves by leaps and bounds this offseason. Playing LB at SC means nothing. Spurrier has LB's that are smaller and faster than Darren Sproles playing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 lol. Cro's quote was the point. Sometimes safeties look slow when they are indecisive. We will see. My feeling is that Allen improves by leaps and bounds this offseason. Playing LB at SC means nothing. Spurrier has LB's that are smaller and faster than Darren Sproles playing for him. It means everything that he's never played FS in college or the pros where's he's had success covering TEs in a Cover 1 press, he's runs 4.7s and is 6'1 210 lbs. He's not a traditional roaming over the top back half FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Cowboys released Miles Austin definitely worth a look sign him and Nicks and draft a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It means everything that he's never played FS in college or the pros where's he's had success covering TEs in a Cover 1 press, he's runs 4.7s and is 6'1 210 lbs. When Ed Reed was signed he took plays away from Allen. Allen will be Ed Reed;s replacement. Period. You can call it whatever you want. FS, SS or whatever. Allen will be the Ed Reed of this defense. That being said, there was no reason to ever like Byrd. He was overrated anyway. 1/4 of his picks were against Geno or Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Cowboys released Miles Austin definitely worth a look sign him and Nicks and draft a WR.[/quote You really want Nicks huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hell yes we need a #1 WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 When Ed Reed was signed he took plays away from Allen. Allen will be Ed Reed;s replacement. Period. You can call it whatever you want. FS, SS or whatever. Allen will be the Ed Reed of this defense. That being said, there was no reason to ever like Byrd. He was overrated anyway. 1/4 of his picks were against Geno or Sanchez. Reed moved Landry to his more traditional spot. It's not like you can't just watch the games and see for yourself. But yeah totally agree the free and strong thing is overrated these days due to offenses playing more spread 3-4 WR sets and less traditional pro style. Safeties need to be much more versatile. Allen is a keeper and should probably start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hell yes we need a #1 WR Don't know if I'd still classify Nicks as a #1 but respect your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Linval Joseph to Vikings via Adam Schefter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Reed moved Landry to his more traditional spot. It's not like you can't just watch the games and see for yourself. But yeah totally agree the free and strong thing is overrated these days due to offenses playing more spread 3-4 WR sets and less traditional pro style. Safeties need to be much more versatile. Allen is a keeper and should probably start. We agree on the most important part. We havent had a good safety on this team since Victor Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Hell yes we need a #1 WR I agree but I would much rather get the #1 in the draft and sign a Tate or Jones in FA. Hakeem is a big ? and I would hate to take a chance on the Giants garbage and ruin the opportunity to grab someone healthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I agree but I would much rather get the #1 in the draft and sign a Tate or Jones in FA. Hakeem is a big ? and I would hate to take a chance on the Giants garbage and ruin the opportunity to grab someone healthier. Only guy I like more than Nicks is Boldin but hes getting older and Decker will demand way too much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Cowboys released Miles Austin definitely worth a look sign him and Nicks and draft a WR. Wouldn't get 16 games out of the two of them put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Linval Joseph to Vikings via Adam Schefter.didnt even realize he was a FA. Solid signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Wouldn't get 16 games out of the two of them put together. Disagree so any NFL player who gets injured will never play a full season again according to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 didnt even realize he was a FA. Solid signing. 5 years over 30 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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