77DRAFT Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Greed Revis works fast, less than 24 hours and he is a locker room cancer. Too bad he's second tier compared to the top CB's in the league, he's like cro, used to be great. Currently just good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I thought I read this morning that they only have 5 million in cap space? . Yep, Revis only counts as $5M against their 2014 cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think they have $10M. It think that is because $4.5-5M of the Revis money is kicked to next year. Have you noticed the way we treat $10M as if it is "a lot" for them, but we have more than $30M and it's "we better not overpay anyone!" or "we need to leave money for draft picks!"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think they have $10M. It think that is because $4.5-5M of the Revis money is kicked to next year. Idk, I know they had 15 at the beginning of free agency. Then cut their NT and signed Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Idk, I know they had 15 at the beginning of free agency. Then cut their NT and signed Revis. He's not cut just yet, he's asking for his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 He's not cut just yet, he's asking for his release. Oh, I meant their backup NT. Not Wilfork. My bad, would have specified - but I forgot his name. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Idk, I know they had 15 at the beginning of free agency. Then cut their NT and signed Revis. Jason's site estimates them at $10.3M. Cutting WIlfork would add $8M. http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Patriots&Year=2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 On a side note: Wilfork would be a beast in the Jets DL rotation. lol Nah. At this point in their careers Snacks is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Oh, I meant their backup NT. Not Wilfork. My bad, would have specified - but I forgot his name. lol Sopoaga. The dude from SF. He signed with the Eagles who traded him to the Pats. That pick is probably what they used to get Sproles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This is poetic justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Kk, thanks Dom. That clarifies everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanincanada Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Now I'm actually happy Revis signed with the Pats, we may be able to run against them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I love this. I thought something like this would happen. They will probably dump McCourty too. And maybe they cannot resign Edelman. Oh but they have Revis. He will stop the run. He will catch touchdown passes. With Wilfat gone, teams will pour through the Pats D line. Maybe they won't even have to pass it against the NE Revises.. That's why the NFL has the best structure. There is an opportunity cost to signing a big name player like Revis. Maybe they won't be able to keep other players. This isn't Revis' fault btw. Whoever is making the decisions (I assume Belichick) has to weigh the risks/rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Jason's site estimates them at $10.3M. Cutting WIlfork would add $8M. http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Patriots&Year=2014 This is most peculiar. I have heard about a dozen times that Revis got a one year 12 million contract. That isn't what Jason's site says. Jason has him on the Pats in 2015 with a 25 million cap hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Now I'm actually happy Revis signed with the Pats, we may be able to run against them again. As opposed to the 300+ we put up on them in 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanincanada Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 As opposed to the 300+ we put up on them in 2013? Wasn't he hurt then? I could be wrong but thought so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 This is most peculiar. I have heard about a dozen times that Revis got a one year 12 million contract. That isn't what Jason's site says. Jason has him on the Pats in 2015 with a 25 million cap hit I believe there is a 2015 team option on the contract. It allows the Pats to spread the 12 million over two cap years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 This is most peculiar. I have heard about a dozen times that Revis got a one year 12 million contract. That isn't what Jason's site says. Jason has him on the Pats in 2015 with a 25 million cap hit Read the article Ape posted - Perspective on the Revis deal or whatever he called it. Revis had it structured to provide some flexibility for 2014 AND to prevent him from being franchised in 2015. It is actually like a 2 yr/$32M or something. They will cut him at the end of this year and he will have been paid $12M though there is some wiggle because a big chunk of it is something like $333,333 game checks for 15 weeks. They have to cut him or restructure at the end of this year or pay him some crazy bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Read the article Ape posted - Perspective on the Revis deal or whatever he called it. Revis had it structured to provide some flexibility for 2014 AND to prevent him from being franchised in 2015. It is actually like a 2 yr/$32M or something. They will cut him at the end of this year and he will have been paid $12M though there is some wiggle because a big chunk of it is something like $333,333 game checks for 15 weeks. They have to cut him or restructure at the end of this year or pay him some crazy bonus. yep. patriots get 2 years to spread the cap hit and revis gets franchise protection. win/win in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Read the article Ape posted - Perspective on the Revis deal or whatever he called it. Revis had it structured to provide some flexibility for 2014 AND to prevent him from being franchised in 2015. It is actually like a 2 yr/$32M or something. They will cut him at the end of this year and he will have been paid $12M though there is some wiggle because a big chunk of it is something like $333,333 game checks for 15 weeks. They have to cut him or restructure at the end of this year or pay him some crazy bonus. Thanks Interesting how they hammered out this elaborate contract in 4 hours. Hmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Circus. That will never get old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks Interesting how they hammered out this elaborate contract in 4 hours. Hmmmmmmmm not as elaborate as it looks. the only real negotiating point was $ this year and protection from being franchised at the end of the year. the other stuff was just fluff to make that happen and give the pats two years to spread the money. the $333,333 bonus for 15 games is the only part to me that doesn't make a lot of sense. that's peanuts and doesn't really give pats much protection against a revis injury nor does it motivate him to tough out an injury to obtain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 OH snap..WILFAT wants out. I guess he sees that he is being asked to reduce his cap # and he said no, release me and let me show you my market value. A 32yo 325+ DT coming off of an Achilles is going get 7.5 million/11.5 million cap figure? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 How long before he's a Jet? Denver's all in for this year. I can see them throwing a ton of money at Wilfork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Sign Wilfork and Spikes and add them to our defense which is 10x better than the Patriots defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 A 32yo 325+ DT coming off of an Achilles is going get 7.5 million/11.5 million cap figure? Ok. He is an instant upgrade on most of the teams in the NFL at that position right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I just want to come in and say that Vince Wilfork is the single best NT I've ever seen. It's almost insulting how little notice his career will get - only the one ring from his rookie season. Seymour had the better timing and generally I like his style of player more, but Wilfork should be a HOFer and won't. He basically carried the Pats' D on his back during the second half of the 2000s, not one player close to his level on that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks Interesting how they hammered out this elaborate contract in 4 hours. Hmmmmmmmm There is nothing shady, scummy, or sh*tty about the NFL and it's inner workings. The knock on your door is just the milk man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Romeo Crennel would love have him on his team. Not sure if the Texans have the ammunition to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Wasn't he hurt then? I could be wrong but thought so I checked he missed the 177 yard game, but not the road game where we got 129. Of course that was in the A 32yo 325+ DT coming off of an Achilles is going get 7.5 million/11.5 million cap figure? Ok. The difference between the salary and the cap figure are the millions money you guys are paying him no matter where he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Is he doing this bc of the Revis signing? Or this would be happening today regardless....hope its the former and not the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Wilfork if released will be signed quick. The guy is a massive upgrade PLUS an achilles is Stronger after its been torn. So injury-wise I think Wilfork is no more susceptible to injury because of the Achilles. DO IT Pats, release Wilfork....your defense will instantly become worse...INSTANTLY. Recipe to beat the Pats...RUN IT UP THE GUT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If we wanted to we could slap them back in face by signing Wilfork.. but that would take reps away from Snacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks Interesting how they hammered out this elaborate contract in 4 hours. Hmmmmmmmm Sounds like a pretty simple deal. They agreed on a one year deal and price and then added a bunch of clauses to protect each other. The 2nd year numbers are so out there that they probably required no negotiation. They are just there to insure that they either cut him or restructure next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I love Wilfork but was just being tongue in cheek earlier. We cannot afford another Kris Jenkins. Idzik has been doing everything almost entirely right since he got here. Unless they feel otherwise, I don't think this is something we'd do. Watch it happen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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