Jetknowledge Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm starting to see why it's been so quiet today. Reports are that we had a scheduling conflict with sanders and now I see why. http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/3/14/5509888/john-idzik-visits l-texas-tech-pro-day If this is true I think our 1st 2 picks could be 18. Marquise Lee & 49. Jace Amaro And we mite still get a shot at emmanuel sanders. I for 1 was happy we for once aren't tied down by the cap. And are building a young talented team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm not sure the others are all that impressed Love your team spirit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Really impressive? We went into free agency with so many glaring needs and barely filled any of them. We still need CB another WR a TE,LB and possibly a backup QB. Im not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Positives: 1. Getting Decker to sign-- Not because Decker is a great player, but because it proved that the franchise was a viable landing spot for upper-level, young free agents. Not closing on Decker would have looked tragic. 2. Idzik doesn't care about headlines-- While frustrating to some fans, it really is the way to go. Tannenbaum would have thrown giant deals at every free agent with a Q rating. 3. Getting snubbed by Pettigrew-- He stinks, and losing him keeps TE high on the list of needs heading into the draft. Jace Amaro and Troy Niklas (both of whom could be available at 39) have a good chance to be better players than Pettigrew at a fraction of the cost. Negatives: 1. Didn't address guard/moved laterally at tackle-- Austin Howard didn't deserve his contract, but Giacomini isn't an upgrade anywhere else but on the balance sheet. He wasn't cheap, either. Geoff Schwartz would have been an ideal addition, but he went to the Giants for $4 mil per. 2. Allegedly got played by Vontae Davis, losing Alterraun Verner in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Really impressive? We went into free agency with so many glaring needs and barely filled any of them. We still need CB another WR a TE,LB and possibly a backup QB. Im not impressed. We know it's been discussed in EVERY thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 watching "that's my boy" with my boys. seeing rex ryan with the bellichek bobble head is priceless. I would think rex just loves this offseason, so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanincanada Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The real impressive part of the offseason was keeping one of the top three HCs in the NFL and locking him up to a long term deal. Rex is the only real positive this franchise has going for it, despite some really, really, really dumb fans that wanted him gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Really impressive? We went into free agency with so many glaring needs and barely filled any of them. We still need CB another WR a TE,LB and possibly a backup QB. Im not impressed. Truth is we aren't even a week into this, it's just beginning. Idzik isn't just throwin money around, he has a plan to build a team, and keep headaches out. What can you possibly complain about unless you really want to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Deals have a funny way of getting done on weekends fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Its been the right fa but I do think that missing Schwartz was bad. Its not bad fa but its not great yet either. If idzik just is simply refusing to overpay guys and set a precedent I can respect that. In the long run that strategy is proven to work. Its probably the most successful strategy there is long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The real impressive part of the offseason was keeping one of the top three HCs in the NFL and locking him up to a long term deal. Rex is the only real positive this franchise has going for it, despite some really, really, really dumb fans that wanted him gone Woody?...what are you doing here, don't you have more important things to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Really impressive? We went into free agency with so many glaring needs and barely filled any of them. We still need CB another WR a TE,LB and possibly a backup QB. Im not impressed. You get an A+ for persistence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 We know it's been discussed in EVERY thread Are you sure because earlier today you made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Truth is we aren't even a week into this, it's just beginning. Idzik isn't just throwin money around, he has a plan to build a team, and keep headaches out. What can you possibly complain about unless you really want to complain. #1 The last thing I want to be doing is complaining about the Jets. I love this team. It's like the guys that work for me.... if you're performance is lacking you get called on the carpet. Now consider you're the Manager of a $ 2 Billion business..... You don't wait 2 years to question the manager about problems on the line... you catch it before the problem wastes an entire production run. Stop the machines, trouble shoot and fix. #2 There is a lot to complain about.... but I'll try not to stir up the zealots. I really do appreciate your team spirit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Its been the right fa but I do think that missing Schwartz was bad. Its not bad fa but its not great yet either. If idzik just is simply refusing to overpay guys and set a precedent I can respect that. In the long run that strategy is proven to work. Its probably the most successful strategy there is long term. 10 yr. plan.... excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 #1 The last thing I want to be doing is complaining about the Jets. I love this team. It's like the guys that work for me.... if you're performance is lacking you get called on the table. Now consider you're the Manager of a $ 2 Billion business..... You don't wait 2 years to question the manager about problems on the line... you catch it before the problem wastes an entire production run. Stop the machines, trouble shoot and fix. #2 There is a lot to complain about.... but I'll try not to stir up the zealots. I really do appreciate your team spirit! Reminder 45 years and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanincanada Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Woody?...what are you doing here, don't you have more important things to do? I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Positives: 1. Getting Decker to sign-- Not because Decker is a great player, but because it proved that the franchise was a viable landing spot for upper-level, young free agents. Not closing on Decker would have looked tragic. 2. Idzik doesn't care about headlines-- While frustrating to some fans, it really is the way to go. Tannenbaum would have thrown giant deals at every free agent with a Q rating. 3. Getting snubbed by Pettigrew-- He stinks, and losing him keeps TE high on the list of needs heading into the draft. Jace Amaro and Troy Niklas (both of whom could be available at 39) have a good chance to be better players than Pettigrew at a fraction of the cost. Negatives: 1. Didn't address guard/moved laterally at tackle-- Austin Howard didn't deserve his contract, but Giacomini isn't an upgrade anywhere else but on the balance sheet. He wasn't cheap, either. Geoff Schwartz would have been an ideal addition, but he went to the Giants for $4 mil per. 2. Allegedly got played by Vontae Davis, losing Alterraun Verner in the process. Shane.... do you think the it was the allure of our great heritage and young budding QB that brought Decker here? Or, the fact he and his wife obviously like the spotlight( their own reality series has been renewed on the E! Channel). Nothing makes for better TV than the NY Jets(remember the NFL series the Jets did in 2011?) The $36 mil he could have gotten elsewhere.... NYC is the Press Capital of the World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Shane.... do you think the it was the allure of our great heritage and young budding QB that brought Decker here? Or, the fact he and his wife obviously like the spotlight( their own reality series has been renewed on the E! Channel). Nothing makes for better TV than the NY Jets(remember the NFL series the Jets did in 2011?) The $36 mil he could have gotten elsewhere.... NYC is the Press Capital of the World There's my million-dollar idea NY Jets wives reality show! Cha-Ching! Woody's wife included Woody the media attention whore would be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Negatives: 1. Didn't address guard/moved laterally at tackle-- Austin Howard didn't deserve his contract, but Giacomini isn't an upgrade anywhere else but on the balance sheet. He wasn't cheap, either. Geoff Schwartz would have been an ideal addition, but he went to the Giants for $4 mil per. 2. Allegedly got played by Vontae Davis, losing Alterraun Verner in the process. 1. Aside from not showing interest in Shwartz and not landing Asamoah, I'm not sure which move you were hoping for. For all we know, Breno Giacomini might be our new swing tackle, and Ben Ijalana will be the starter at either RT or OG. I also wouldn't rule out a draftee like Taylor Lewan in the first, as he might slide and present fair value for the draft slot. 2. Getting "played" by Davis just reveals that Vontae wanted to stay with his (playoff caliber) team, in his current house, at his current pay (which is substantial), and that our beans weren't enough to pry him away from those factors. How much higher than $10M per would it have taken to change his mind without overpaying? Verner is the only real argument here given that he was signed for a very reasonable contract, and changed teams. Still, I question how he would have fit in a press coverage scheme as he's billed more as a zone defender who plays bail-technique in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Shane.... do you think the it was the allure of our great heritage and young budding QB that brought Decker here? Or, the fact he and his wife obviously like the spotlight( their own reality series has been renewed on the E! Channel). Nothing makes for better TV than the NY Jets(remember the NFL series the Jets did in 2011?) The $36 mil he could have gotten elsewhere.... NYC is the Press Capital of the World After reading about his conference call today, I definitely got the impression that becoming a celebrity couple is really high on his list of priorities. No matter what he says, there's no way you go from Peyton Manning to Geno Smith for "football reasons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Positives: 3. Getting snubbed by Pettigrew-- He stinks, and losing him keeps TE high on the list of needs heading into the draft. Jace Amaro and Troy Niklas (both of whom could be available at 39) have a good chance to be better players than Pettigrew at a fraction of the cost. Negatives: 2. Allegedly got played by Vontae Davis, losing Alterraun Verner in the process. these are the same situation. anytime another team uses the Jets to drive up their asking price with their current team it is a negative by the way the whole Revis signing with Patriots thing was not a positive. It's a friggin Greek tragedy. Casual Jets fans will find out about this next summer and want to put out their eyes. Whether they could have avoided it or not is a moot question. All that matters is the Pats are loading up for another run and the Jets are shooting for the wildcard...maybe. Like every other year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 After reading about his conference call today, I definitely got the impression that becoming a celebrity couple is really high on his list of priorities. No matter what he says, there's no way you go from Peyton Manning to Geno Smith for "football reasons." Hold on cowboy. Peyton Manning is 1 hit away from being done and will probably retire next season after the Broncos win the Super Bowl. Geno Smith on the other hand is a young gun who will win multiple Super Bowls here in the years to come. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 these are the same situation. anytime another team uses the Jets to drive up their asking price with their current team it is a negative by the way the whole Revis signing with Patriots thing was not a positive. It's a friggin Greek tragedy. Casual Jets fans will find out about this next summer and want to put out their eyes. Whether they could have avoided it or not is a moot question. All that matters is the Pats are loading up for another run and the Jets are shooting for the wildcard...maybe. Like every other year. So we should bet it all on this year? You clown, there is no combination of fa signings that win us the superbowl this season. The only thing we can do this offseason is **** up three years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 So we should bet it all on this year? You clown, there is no combination of fa signings that win us the superbowl this season. The only thing we can do this offseason is **** up three years from now. Do these words sound familiar? I think I figured out idzik's plan. Push 40m into next year's cap, get the first pick of the draft and then get rid of Rex. Go into next off-season and then push 80 into the following years cap then sign LeBron James and Melo to a max contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Are you sure because earlier today you made a mistake. Did I? Or was I just busting your chops for redundancy redundancy redundancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I like that he hasn't blown the cap in one off season makes no sense to trade old bad deals for new bad deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Did I? Or was I just busting your chops for redundancy redundancy redundancy? Only you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 #1 The last thing I want to be doing is complaining about the Jets. I love this team. It's like the guys that work for me.... if you're performance is lacking you get called on the carpet. Now consider you're the Manager of a $ 2 Billion business..... You don't wait 2 years to question the manager about problems on the line... you catch it before the problem wastes an entire production run. Stop the machines, trouble shoot and fix. #2 There is a lot to complain about.... but I'll try not to stir up the zealots. I really do appreciate your team spirit! Thank you, I try. And I don't feel anyone can complain till preseason game 4, when we actually see our starters and what our rookies MITE contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Thank you, I try. And I don't feel anyone can complain till preseason game 4, when we actually see our starters and what our rookies MITE contribute. Don't let the Grammar police(BG/SuperT) catch you mizspelln.... you'll get a verbal lashing! With regard to pre-season game 4.... I don't know any Jet fan who waits that long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 After reading about his conference call today, I definitely got the impression that becoming a celebrity couple is really high on his list of priorities. No matter what he says, there's no way you go from Peyton Manning to Geno Smith for "football reasons." He said the broncos didn't even reach out to him. And he wanted to feel welcomed, & respected. That's what he got here, and money. And 2 great states to call home. Plus he heard all the talk of him being a 2, i'm sure there's a chip on his shoulder and he wants to prove how good he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 He said the broncos didn't even reach out to him. And he wanted to feel welcomed, & respected. That's what he got here, and money. And 2 great states to call home. Plus he heard all the talk of him being a 2, i'm sure there's a chip on his shoulder and he wants to prove how good he really is. Boy, I hope you're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 He said the broncos didn't even reach out to him. And he wanted to feel welcomed, & respected. That's what he got here, and money. And 2 great states to call home. Plus he heard all the talk of him being a 2, i'm sure there's a chip on his shoulder and he wants to prove how good he really is. I know that if I wanted to teach John Elway a lesson, I'd come a-runnin' to the Jets offense to help me do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 They say week 3 of free agency is when you get your best bargains. Its pretty obvious Idzik isnt even close to being done. Still a ton of guys out there that can help this team out and a ton of cap room. The ending objective is to have 2 or even 3 viable starters battling it out at every position by the time training camp starts. Here's a list: http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/look-top-remaining-nfl-free-agents Outside linebackers (1) 47. Shaun Phillips Defensive ends (7) 18. Jared Allen 42. Corey Wootton 51. Julius Peppers 64. Anthony Spencer 82. Robert Ayers 95. Willie Young Cornerbacks (4) 12. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie 48. Antonio Cromartie 60. Walter Thurmond III 77. Chris Harris Defensive tackles (2) 34. Henry Melton 100. Pat Sims Inside linebackers (1) 80. Brandon Spikes Quarterbacks (2) 52. Michael Vick 107. Josh Freeman Running backs (5) 40. Ben Tate 75. Knowshon Moreno 81. James Starks 90. LeGarrette Blount 92. Maurice Jones-Drew Wide receivers (6) 35. Julian Edelman 39. Emmanuel Sanders 44. James Jones 89. Brandon LaFell 102. Jerome Simpson Tight ends (2) 71. Jermichael Finley Offensive tackles (1) 101. Zach Strief Offensive guards (2) 86. Davin Joseph 98. Travelle Wharton Centers (1) 94. Brian De La Puente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 ^great list RSJ I would like to show interest in Shaun Phillips or Anthony Spencer, let them rotate with Barnes, Coples and Pace (re-signed on cheap), and work in a drafted rookie (Trent Murphy, Attoacho from the second rd.) We can draft a WR in the first, a start able RB in the 3rd round, and get a TE in the 4th (Fiodorwicz, Lylerla). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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