eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Aqib Talib (DEN) Contract Details Six-year contract worth $57 million. Talib received $11.5 million in fully guaranteed salary. The full guarantee is made up of a $5 million signing bonus, $2 million 2014 roster bonus, and $4.5 million 2014 base salary. His 2015 and 2016 base salaries are both guaranteed for injury only and will become fully guaranteed if he is on the roster on the 3rd day of that respective league year. He has $500,000 roster bonuses paid for games active in the first three years of the contract. Base salaries are $4,500,000(2014), $5,500,000(2015), $8,500,000(2016), $11,000,000(2017), $11,000,000(2018), and $8,000,000(2019). Contract Analysis Here’s a prime example of the media often overstating the guaranteed money in contracts. Contrary to reports, Talib received $11.5 million in fully guaranteed salary. Given Denver’s situation, there is a legitimate chance that this ends up being a one-year deal. And given the $7 million in cap savings that gets credited to Denver if they part ways with Talib after 2015, I’d be surprised if he remains a Bronco for more than two seasons. PFF Analysis Vontae Davis (IND) Contract Details Four-year contract worth $36 million. Davis received $15 million in fully guarantees and another $5 million in partial guarantees. The fully guarantee is comprised of a $ 5 million signing bonus, $5 million 2014 base salary, and $5 million of his 2015 roster bonus. If he is on the roster the 5th day of the 2015 League Year he will fully guarantee another $5 million of his contract. Davis can earn up to $3 million in performance escalators which are available in the final two years of his contract. Contract Analysis Because $5 million of Davis’ $6 million 2015 roster bonus is guaranteed, this reads like a two-year deal worth $20 million. Davis, who has been inconsistent in his career thus far, has $7 million and $9 million base salaries in 2016 and 2017, respectively. With only $2,500,000 in dead money associated with the deal in 2016, Davis will have to continue to perform at a high level to earn all $36 million. Alterraun Verner (TB) Contract Details Four-year contract worth $25.5 million. Verner will earn $8 million in 2014, all of which is fully guaranteed. In 2015 he has $4 million guaranteed for injury only. This money will become fully guaranteed if Verner is on the roster on the fifth day of the 2015 League Year. In 2016 he has a $2 million guarantee that will become fully guaranteed in 2016. He can earn $250,000 for each year he is selected to the Pro Bowl. Base salaries of the contract are $5,000,000(2014), $4,250,000(2015), $6,750,000(2016), and $6,500,000(2017) Contract Analysis Darrelle Revis’ replacement, Verner’s contract is front-loaded. With the use of a roster bonus and no signing bonus, Tampa Bay can part ways with Verner after 2014 with no cost (his 2015 salary is guaranteed for just injury). The $8 million he’ll be paid this coming year is 31% of the contract’s total value. Verner won’t turn 26 until December, so chances are he’ll play out this entire deal. The Bucs got great value here. Linval Joseph (MIN) Contract Details Five-year contract worth $31.25 million. The deal contains $12.5 million in fully guaranteed money, made up of a $3 million signing bonus, $2.4 million roster bonus, $2014 base salary, and $3.6 million of his 2015 base salary. Base salaries of the contract are $3,500,000(2014), $3,900,000(2015), $5,650,000(2016), $6,150,000(2017), and $5,150,000(2018). Contract Analysis This deal, which makes Joseph the NFL’s 11th highest paid defensive tackle in terms of average salary, is basically a two-year/$13 million deal (or $12.8 million if Joseph skips OTA’s). His dead money amount decreases from $6 million in 2015 to $1.8 million in 2016, so the Vikings will be free to cut him after the two years. Minnesota will then be able to evaluate on a year-to-year basis as to whether Joseph is worth a $6-$7 million cap hit each year.http://overthecap.co...agent-analysis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The fudge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Funny that you're telling him how to write a contract, when it sounds pretty damn similar to what he gave Decker. If he doesn't pan out, he can be cut after year two with minimal cap implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 BOOSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Funny that you're telling him how to write a contract, when it sounds pretty damn similar to what he gave Decker. If he doesn't pan out, he can be cut after year two with minimal cap implications. I wasn't sure he knew, 'cause about a dozen other guys, at positions of need for the Jets, signed these type of contracts 2 days earlier, elsewhere. Maybe he read Jason's article and used it as a learning guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The struggle is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I wasn't sure he knew, 'cause about a dozen other guys, at positions of need for the Jets, signed these type of contracts 2 days earlier, elsewhere. Maybe he read Jason's article and used it as a learning guide? The mcdonalds fry cook lecturing a professional nfl GM about contracts is hysterical to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 The mcdonalds fry cook lecturing a professional nfl GM about contracts is hysterical to me. Not lecturing..... providing him with knowledge that he may be lacking. Seattle's having cap troble, losing a lot of players.... wasn't that Idzik's Dept? Hmmmmmmm? I used to be a short order cook in High School. NEVER McD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I quit, free agency has made this place intolerable. I'll be back for the mock draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Those first two cocksuckers got more than $10M a year. **** em. Verner did not get so much, but I'm not sold on his fit. He supposedly only played about 115 snaps in man last year and is better suited to zone. Who the **** wanted any part of Linval Joseph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Not lecturing..... providing him with knowledge that he may be lacking. Seattle's having cap troble, losing a lot of players.... wasn't that Idzik's Dept? Hmmmmmmm? Damn you Woody Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I quit, free agency has made this place intolerable. I'll be back for the mock draft We'll see if you are a man of your convictions.... I bet you can't stay away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Those first two cocksuckers got more than $10M a year. **** em. Verner did not get so much, but I'm not sold on his fit. He supposedly only played about 115 snaps in man last year and is better suited to zone. Who the **** wanted any part of Linval Joseph? You missed the point of our conversation. I was asked to provide some instances of FA contracts where the team could get out of the deal w/o with no long term consequences. So I showed him some..... That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I quit, free agency has made this place intolerable. I'll be back for the mock draft Dont' be a bitch. This place has been intolerable millions of times. Running away will never make you free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Not lecturing..... providing him with knowledge that he may be lacking. Seattle's having cap troble, losing a lot of players.... wasn't that Idzik's Dept? Hmmmmmmm? I used to be a short order cook in High School. NEVER McD's Who knew players coming off a superbowl win are expensive. I for one am shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You missed the point of our conversation. I was asked to provide some instances of FA contracts where the team could get out of the deal w/o with no long term consequences. So I showed him some..... That's it. Every ******* deal is structured that way. If you did not know it, congratulations for googling. As said above, Decker's deal is similar. Your ******* post acts like those guys didn't get $$. They got ******* $10M for a year. $11.5M for one year of Talib? Do not want. It makes me happier about Idzik not matter what you impatient ****ers think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Austin Howard (OAK) Contract Details Five-year contract worth $30 million. Howard received a $5 million roster bonus and fully guaranteed base salary in 2014. His 2015 base salary is guaranteed for injury and will become fully guaranteed in March of 2015. Howard will receive a $3 million roster bonus on the 5th day of the 2015 League Year. Base salaries of the contract are $2,900,000(2014), $3,900,000(2015), $4,400,000(2016), $4,900,000(2017), $5,400,000(2018). Contract Analysis While GM Reggie McKenzie has been torn apart for his 2014 offseason work, at least he structured this deal the right way. The lack of a signing bonus means no dead money is attached to this contract after 2014. Howard automatically gets $7.9 million in his pocket, but has no job security beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Austin Howard (OAK) Contract Details Five-year contract worth $30 million. Howard received a $5 million roster bonus and fully guaranteed base salary in 2014. His 2015 base salary is guaranteed for injury and will become fully guaranteed in March of 2015. Howard will receive a $3 million roster bonus on the 5th day of the 2015 League Year. Base salaries of the contract are $2,900,000(2014), $3,900,000(2015), $4,400,000(2016), $4,900,000(2017), $5,400,000(2018). Contract Analysis While GM Reggie McKenzie has been torn apart for his 2014 offseason work, at least he structured this deal the right way. The lack of a signing bonus means no dead money is attached to this contract after 2014. Howard automatically gets $7.9 million in his pocket, but has no job security beyond that. 8 million for that scrub. That's ******* terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Every ******* deal is structured that way. If you did not know it, congratulations for googling. As said above, Decker's deal is similar. Your ******* post acts like those guys didn't get $$. They got ******* $10M for a year. $11.5M for one year of Talib? Do not want. It makes me happier about Idzik not matter what you impatient ****ers think. I can picture you throwing furniture around the room while you're posting. We're all Jets fans here, what's with all the "F" bombs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I can picture you throwing furniture around the room while you're posting. We're all Jets fans here, what's with all the "F" bombs? Why would I throw my ******* furniture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 8 million for that scrub. That's ******* terrible. $7 million for this Scrub? Ha-Ha! Overthecap.com got the details of the contract Idzik worked out with Giacomini's agent. It calls for $7 million in guaranteed money over the first two of its four-year length. The guarantees break down to a $2.5 million signing bonus, a $1 million salary for this year, a $1 million roster bonus for this year, and $2.5 million of his $4.5 million salary for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Why would I throw my ******* furniture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 armchair GM lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yes we have everyone that thinks they can run a NFL organization- if it was so easy everyone would win a chamionship without trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I quit, free agency has made this place intolerable. I'll be back for the mock draft That's selfish. We need you now more than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yes we have everyone that thinks they can run a NFL organization- if it was so easy everyone would win a chamionship without trying You included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You sure told him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 That's selfish. We need you now more than ever. death to the blind faith brigade!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Aqib Talib (DEN) Contract Details Six-year contract worth $57 million. Talib received $11.5 million in fully guaranteed salary. The full guarantee is made up of a $5 million signing bonus, $2 million 2014 roster bonus, and $4.5 million 2014 base salary. His 2015 and 2016 base salaries are both guaranteed for injury only and will become fully guaranteed if he is on the roster on the 3rd day of that respective league year. He has $500,000 roster bonuses paid for games active in the first three years of the contract. Base salaries are $4,500,000(2014), $5,500,000(2015), $8,500,000(2016), $11,000,000(2017), $11,000,000(2018), and $8,000,000(2019). Contract Analysis Here’s a prime example of the media often overstating the guaranteed money in contracts. Contrary to reports, Talib received $11.5 million in fully guaranteed salary. Given Denver’s situation, there is a legitimate chance that this ends up being a one-year deal. And given the $7 million in cap savings that gets credited to Denver if they part ways with Talib after 2015, I’d be surprised if he remains a Bronco for more than two seasons. PFF Analysis Vontae Davis (IND) Contract Details Four-year contract worth $36 million. Davis received $15 million in fully guarantees and another $5 million in partial guarantees. The fully guarantee is comprised of a $ 5 million signing bonus, $5 million 2014 base salary, and $5 million of his 2015 roster bonus. If he is on the roster the 5th day of the 2015 League Year he will fully guarantee another $5 million of his contract. Davis can earn up to $3 million in performance escalators which are available in the final two years of his contract. Contract Analysis Because $5 million of Davis’ $6 million 2015 roster bonus is guaranteed, this reads like a two-year deal worth $20 million. Davis, who has been inconsistent in his career thus far, has $7 million and $9 million base salaries in 2016 and 2017, respectively. With only $2,500,000 in dead money associated with the deal in 2016, Davis will have to continue to perform at a high level to earn all $36 million. Alterraun Verner (TB) Contract Details Four-year contract worth $25.5 million. Verner will earn $8 million in 2014, all of which is fully guaranteed. In 2015 he has $4 million guaranteed for injury only. This money will become fully guaranteed if Verner is on the roster on the fifth day of the 2015 League Year. In 2016 he has a $2 million guarantee that will become fully guaranteed in 2016. He can earn $250,000 for each year he is selected to the Pro Bowl. Base salaries of the contract are $5,000,000(2014), $4,250,000(2015), $6,750,000(2016), and $6,500,000(2017) Contract Analysis Darrelle Revis’ replacement, Verner’s contract is front-loaded. With the use of a roster bonus and no signing bonus, Tampa Bay can part ways with Verner after 2014 with no cost (his 2015 salary is guaranteed for just injury). The $8 million he’ll be paid this coming year is 31% of the contract’s total value. Verner won’t turn 26 until December, so chances are he’ll play out this entire deal. The Bucs got great value here. Linval Joseph (MIN) Contract Details Five-year contract worth $31.25 million. The deal contains $12.5 million in fully guaranteed money, made up of a $3 million signing bonus, $2.4 million roster bonus, $2014 base salary, and $3.6 million of his 2015 base salary. Base salaries of the contract are $3,500,000(2014), $3,900,000(2015), $5,650,000(2016), $6,150,000(2017), and $5,150,000(2018). Contract Analysis This deal, which makes Joseph the NFL’s 11th highest paid defensive tackle in terms of average salary, is basically a two-year/$13 million deal (or $12.8 million if Joseph skips OTA’s). His dead money amount decreases from $6 million in 2015 to $1.8 million in 2016, so the Vikings will be free to cut him after the two years. Minnesota will then be able to evaluate on a year-to-year basis as to whether Joseph is worth a $6-$7 million cap hit each year. http://overthecap.co...agent-analysis/ Thats the same type of contract that Denver offered DRC and he rejected it. On the surface it looked like a 6 year 54 million dollar deal, but in reality it was more of a 1 year 10 million dollar contract. The rest of the numbers were bullsh*t. As a side note, this is exactly why I hate Lawyers. They're f'ing liars and they use legal jargon to mislead yet bind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'm sure Idzik is taking notes on your lecture. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 You sure told him. Wow! You really told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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