Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 At corner, we have two former first rounders whom about half the teams in the NFL would like to have. Milliner played outstanding down the stretch and Wilson is one of the better slot corners in the league. Yet because we missed out on Vontae Davis, Darrelle Revis and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, somehow we're to believe we're sunk at the CB position. While any of those 3 would have been nice to have, particularly Davis (who Idzik coveted), it's difficult to believe we're really that bad off here. Meanwhile, Antonio Cromartie is still available any time we'd like to bring him back. Safety has never been a valuable position in Rex Ryan's defense, and we retained our starters from last season. Antonio Allen, who pick sixed Tom Brady, is back. Landry is back. Ed Reed might be back. Does Jairus Byrd or TJ Ward add an extra element to the defense? Sure. But let's not pretend that it is ever in the cards to overspend at this spot. This defense was once ranked # 1 with Eric Smith at safety. It can return to # 1 without Jairus Byrd. We're supposedly missing pass-rushers. Well, we gain one next year. When Antwan Barnes returns. Along with Quinton Coples and Calvin Pace. Surely Rex Ryan can make it work with those guys. The entire reason Rex Ryan was retained as HC came with the assumption that the defense would be fine under his guidance even if we didn't address all of our weaknesses. I have to imagine we will come away with at least a few new players to the D with 12 draft picks. Rex should have all the players he needs when all is said and done to field a high-caliber defense. If he can't, he isn't the defensive genius we once thought. No, our biggest need was clearly at WR, where only one player (Kerley) seemed capable of having an 800+ yard season regardless of QB. So Idzik addressed it in free agency. He brought in a player who has produced with three different QB's, and will surely produce here. Need filled. So instead of looking at what Idzik has NOT done this offseason, I choose to look at what he is accomplishing, and what it says about his philosophy. As he promised, this is a team that will be built through the draft. I'm willing to give Dee Milliner and Geno Smith a chance, because they've both shown flashes that they can and will improve their games. I'll hazard a guess that Sheldon Richardson will continue to progress off his Defensive Rookie of the Year campaign. And I imagine the 2014 draft will be a fun one. If the players we already have continue to progress, we'll show we never needed the pricey free agents we passed on. And if we have another draft in 2014 like we did in 2013, we can expect to see some more impact players added into the fold that won't cost big dollars and be gone in 2-3 years. The slow play is the right play. If you cannot see this then this is not the team you'll want to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, we had more than 6 other needs that we haven't even begun to address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, Rex Ryan is the head coach, so its all good in the hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 need to sign at least three pro bowl caliber cbs before anything can be rexs fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, championships arent won in March, yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, is a marathon not a sprint, so keep it real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, the journey of a thousand footsteps begins with one footstep. But then continues with more footsteps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, the tortoise always beats the hare, sup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, I don't know, I've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Late comeback: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 totally agree,..I've agreed with your take all week, we've had zero talent on offense for too long but our defensive genius HC needs corners ...if you would've told me in January we'd spend all 12 draft picks and every FA dollar on Offense I would've signed for it, and shouldn't that be ok? Shouldn't the " best defensive mind in football" be able to draw something up?....I'm totally fine with our approach and even happier our GM isn't getting bullied by the child , frat boy HC running into his office and demanding he sign Santonio Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 totally agree,..I've agreed with your take all week, we've had zero talent on offense for too long but our defensive genius HC needs corners ...if you would've told me in January we'd spend all 12 draft picks and every FA dollar on Offense I would've signed for it, and shouldn't that be ok? Shouldn't the " best defensive mind in football" be able to draw something up?....I'm totally fine with our approach and even happier our GM isn't getting bullied by the child , frat boy HC running into his office and demanding he sign Santonio Holmes. We need Pro Bowlers all over the field on defense or Rex Ryan, who once beat Peyton Manning with Drew Coleman getting significant snaps, won't be able to do anything. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, we haven't upgraded any position on offense other than WR #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, we had more than 6 other needs that we haven't even begun to address. They're not "needs". They're "wants". Our only significant need was WR. We don't "need" corners or safeties, because we have 4 returning starters there. We lost Austin Howard then immediately filled his spot with a better run blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked they didn't put tomotoes in Tom Kha Gai but my order has them in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, we haven't upgraded any position on offense other than WR #1. Last I checked, free agency isn't over yet, and we also have 12 draft picks. And that upgrade at WR was not only our biggest need, it was an enormous upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, free agency isn't over yet, and we also have 12 draft picks. Last I checked, other teams have draft picks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked they didn't put tomotoes in Tom Kha Gai but my order has them in it. Last I checked, I preferred Cashew Chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, I preferred Cashew Chicken. Last I checked that was Chinese not Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 totally agree,..I've agreed with your take all week, we've had zero talent on offense for too long but our defensive genius HC needs corners ...if you would've told me in January we'd spend all 12 draft picks and every FA dollar on Offense I would've signed for it, and shouldn't that be ok? Shouldn't the " best defensive mind in football" be able to draw something up?....I'm totally fine with our approach and even happier our GM isn't getting bullied by the child , frat boy HC running into his office and demanding he sign Santonio Holmes. Rex Ryan has 7 corners including two 1st round picks,..picks he made by the way. How many more damn corners must have have? How about developing Milliner and WIlson and Berry and Walls and the other 3 on the roster? Get a FS in the draft and call it a day. Move on to the offense. Rex has been crying corners for years, yet I dont know the last time our corners got us in the playoffs. Moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Since Idzik arrived, we've accumulated the following: 1. The 2013 top overall rookie (Richardson) 2. The 2013 top corner prospect (Milliner), who shut down Josh Gordon. 3. The 2013 top QB prospect (Geno), who may well be a real life, actual QB if given time. He also might be a better prospect than any QB in the 2014 draft, the way things are looking. If he's not, oh well. We burned the # 39 pick on him, not a top 10 pick. 4. A nasty, mean runner (Ivory) who looks like a poor man's Marshawn Lynch; averaged 4.5 ypc behind a so-so line, with opposing teams stacking the box no less. 5. An underrated pass-rusher (Barnes), who was leading the team in pressures and had 2 sacks in 5 games before his injury. 6. A former nobody WR (Nelson) who proved to be a nice # 4 and could play a big role on the '14 roster, even as the 4th option. 7. The 2014 top WR free agent (Decker), who has produced with 3 different QB's, without having to overspend; he could have easily been a Colt and been Andrew Luck's favorite target for the next 10 years. 8. An upgrade at the RT position without having to pay $6M per season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked that was Chinese not Thai. Last I checked, they all look the same to me. Taste the same too. Even their tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, other teams have draft picks too. Not 12. And not all of them have a GM/scouting combo that can be trusted to make quality picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, I preferred Cashew Chicken.Someones googling " cashew chicken NFL" as we speak to find out what position he plays and start a thread about why we didn't sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Someones googling " cashew chicken NFL" as we speak to find out what position he plays and start a thread about why we didn't sign him. If by "someone" you mean me? Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Not 12. And not all of them have a GM/scouting combo that can be trusted to make quality picks. Last I checked, when did John Idzik become a scouting guru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, they all look the same to me. Taste the same too. Even their tears. Last I checked that was racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Clearly you haven't checked in the past few days. /chickenlittle'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, if we don't sign a cornerback we are not going to the Superbowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, when did John Idzik become a scouting guru? He didn't, but he ended up with the DROY as part of his 2013 haul, and that was without using his own scouts. And he did so by making a pick most of us (including me) didn't like at the time. He makes the unpopular moves but they're having a tendency to work out so far. I'd say he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked that was racist. No, it would be racist if I said their tears tasted differently. Pay attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 CB was probably our second biggest need. Losing out on DRC sucks, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Last I checked, when did John Idzik become a scouting guru? Last I checked, the above is not a proper sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 CB was probably our second biggest need. Losing out on DRC sucks, imo. I'd say it was a pretty distant 2nd. Milliner and Wilson are the truth. Though missing out on Vontae Davis does hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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