Jets80 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 That's ******* demented. No kidding. Whether he "made a mistake" or is now "on the straight and narrow". The guy is now a member of our New York Jets! Just not a fan of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 One of the more interesting posts made in all this hysteria was made by Greenseed 4 "Geno wore #12 in college Vick wore #7 at VT (and the Falcons, and the Eagles) By default it is customary for the current holder of the number to decide whether or not to "sell" his number to the new-comer. Joe Namath wore the #12, and it has been retired, so out of respect for Mike Vick, Geno chose the #7. Whether or not he releases the number to the man who encouraged him to wear it will come down to them. " I'm reading a lot of posters saying that now they are going to root for Smith all the more to beat out the POS Vick. Some are hoping that Vick suffers a devastating injury so Smith can start. Smith chose #7 because he admires Mike Vick. Vick is probably his hero. He chose #7 after Vick had been to prison for dog fighting . Doesn't anyone find it just a tad hypocritical to be rooting for Smith in view of who his role model is? Just wondering No. When Geno Smith does what Vick does then it becomes hypocritical. There are people here who have no problem with Vick. Am I a hypocrite if I fail to despise these posters who are most likely all good people? Weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I don't root for him either, if it makes it any better. I find the Big Ben thing odd, he's the first go-to in order to point out some sort of fallacious strawman hypocrisy. They are both horrible people and would prefer not having them on my favorite team. It's actually a pretty horrific conversation to even be having when you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 i'm not gonna abandon the jets because i love football and i cant root for a differetn team. i will, however, be rooting daily for a career ending injury to vick. KARMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 So no tickets for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 No. When Geno Smith does what Vick does then it becomes hypocritical. There are people here who have no problem with Vick. Am I a hypocrite if I fail to despise these posters who are most likely all good people? Weak. Got to disagree. This is his hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Got to disagree. This is his hero Doubtful it was because of his inhumane torture of defenseless beings. So because a young person has or had what is (in my opinion) a misguided admiration, that is the same as Geno Smith being a dog killer and torturer himself? I sense this is not the first, nor will it be the last, foolish thing that Geno Smith has said or thought. But their shortcomings are not the same thing in any rational sense. One of them is a disgusting criminal. The other is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 good ol america where dogs lives are more important than a minorities LMAOOOOO gtfoh and get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The man did his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Vick is really good when healthy. He could never stay healthy. If the NFL had an 8 game schedule he would have won 4 rings by now. Point is maybe he will stay in the pocket more here. He has never had a power running game or a defense like the Jets have. nope hes not really good ...a good assessment is very inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 a daddy long legs with wings? seriously why make up stupid sh*t??? unless you're just trying to look stupid I KNOW WHAT I SAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 good ol america where dogs lives are more important than a minorities LMAOOOOO gtfoh and get over it. what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 good ol america where dogs lives are more important than a minorities LMAOOOOO gtfoh and get over it. Not the time or place but I'd love to hear you expand on this line of thinking, which is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Doubtful it was because of his inhumane torture of defenseless beings. So because a young person has or had what is (in my opinion) a misguided admiration, that is the same as Geno Smith being a dog killer and torturer himself? I sense this is not the first, nor will it be the last, foolish thing that Geno Smith has said or thought. But their shortcomings are not the same thing in any rational sense. One of them is a disgusting criminal. The other is not. 90% of the posts since the Vick signing has been announced have been about moral judgments one way or the other. If a person identifies himself with a person that has committed outrageous anti social behavior, and by taking Vick's # that's what Smith has done , it is only natural he is going to be associated with that behavior. Your clearly emotionally affected by the outrageous actions Vick has committed in the past, so I'll just take it as we disagee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 nope hes not really good ...a good assessment is very inconsistent When asked to do too much...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Because Michael Vick is the first bad person to play for the Jets. GTFO. He is a bad person, who made bad mistakes and paid for it dearly. Get over it. GOATS GOTTA GOAT The only thing Michael Vick is sorry about is the fact he got caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Not the time or place but I'd love to hear you expand on this line of thinking, which is mind boggling. pretty self explanatory, you dont have to agree with my line of thinking...its an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 One good thing that's come from the whole Vick thing is the lesson that dogs aren't people. You know I never realized that until Vick got busted. Thank god we have geniuses who are able to point that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Fare thee well, acupuncturejeff. You shall always be friend of the bears. we still doing POTW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 90% of the posts since the Vick signing has been announced have been about moral judgments one way or the other. If a person identifies himself with a person that has committed outrageous anti social behavior, and by taking Vick's # that's what Smith has done , it is only natural he is going to be associated with that behavior. Your clearly emotionally affected by the outrageous actions Vick has committed in the past, so I'll just take it as we disagee I disagree with your premise, which is tantamount to saying a young, impressionable, misguided fan of a criminal is no better than the criminal. Or put another way, a fan who buys a Vick or Roetlisberger jersey is no better morally than those players. This would mean that buying a Vick jersey means you deserve to go to jail. The whole line of thought makes no sense to me. One act is a vicious crime, the other is not a crime at all; it's mere foolishness at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 i'm not gonna abandon the jets because i love football and i cant root for a differetn team. i will, however, be rooting daily for a career ending injury to vick. Then you're as bad as you believe Michael Vick is as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Then you're as bad as you believe Michael Vick is as a person. i'm also glad hitler is dead and hope he died a painful miserable death and is now rotting in hell. does that make me as bad a person as hitler was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 pretty self explanatory, you dont have to agree with my line of thinking...its an opinion. I just can't grasp why you're connecting this with minorities? What does this have anything to do with race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 it's about time.... i bet youd jump for joy if the team were to get Ben Rothlesburger.... Screw that rapist idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 i'm also glad hitler is dead and hope he died a painful miserable death and is now rotting in hell. does that make me as bad a person as hitler was? Wanting injury for a person who has paid for the deeds of his crime and is now a legally accepted member of our society, yea...you're just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 The New York Jets have signed Michael Vick. Don't let this happen quietly. Look your dog in the eyes tonight and imagine Mike Vick strangling him, strangling her, electrocuting your dog.https://www.facebook.com/getridofvicknow - Share this page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Wanting injury for a person who has paid for the deeds of his crime and is now a legally accepted member of our society, yea...you're just as bad. reading comprehension problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I disagree with your premise, which is tantamount to saying a young, impressionable, misguided fan of a criminal is no better than the criminal. Or put another way, a fan who buys a Vick or Roetlisberger jersey is no better morally than those players. This would mean that buying a Vick jersey means you deserve to go to jail. The whole line of thought makes no sense to me. One act is a vicious crime, the other is not a crime at all; it's mere foolishness at worst. The point of the post was not that Smith is a criminal, and should be put in jail, I never said that, but rather it reflects on his moral view of what Vick had done. As i said 90% of these posts are about moral judgments. Mostly powered by geographic and ethnic background. When Smith was first involved in this the sheriff of his county said "if I arrest him, I will have to arrest 60% of the people in my county" The local people weren't out raged. The feds singled him out, and stepped in with a task force. Dog fighting is very common in the south. Young or not, it does indicate what Smith feels the severity and moral out rage of Vick's crime is. At the time of the crime Vick wasn't much older then Smith is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 reading comprehension problems? sorry you're the one who went off the deep end w/ the Hitler analogy - not going to go there. You stated that you wished harm to befall to another human who made mistake, legally paid for it and is now a member of our society. I don't agree with that and think that you fall into the same category that you place Vick into. FWIW - I don't think this is a good FOOTBALL move. Didn't want Vick here due to the Tebow-like sideshow that would follow - and your posts pretty much prove my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Dog fighting is very common in the south. I've been in San Antonio the past couple days, haven't seen one yet. #gipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The point of the post was not that Smith is a criminal, and should be put in jail, I never said that, but rather it reflects on his moral view of what Vick had done. As i said 90% of these posts are about moral judgments. Mostly powered by geographic and ethnic background. When Smith was first involved in this the sheriff of his county said "if I arrest him, I will have to arrest 60% of the people in my county" The local people weren't out raged. The feds singled him out, and stepped in with a task force. Dog fighting is very common in the south. Young or not, it does indicate what Smith feels the severity and moral out rage of Vick's crime is. At the time of the crime Vick wasn't much older then Smith is now The gist of your post was that rooting for one is the same as rooting for the other. That if I root on Smith during a game it's the same as rooting for Vick. I disagree with this premise and line of thought. And if 60% of the people in their county were electrocuting dogs for pleasure, I have no better opinion of them than of Vick. Being common makes it no better. The day I find out that Geno Smith has the same past that will extend to him as well. If I found out that Rex electrocutes puppies because he feels electrified puppy paws are a delicacy, same thing. Whatever the reasons Geno has for looking up to Vick, I haven't heard him say that torturing canines was one of Vick's most admirable traits that he hopes to someday do himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 sorry you're the one who went off the deep end w/ the Hitler analogy - not going to go there. You stated that you wished harm to befall to another human who made mistake, legally paid for it and is now a member of our society. I don't agree with that and think that you fall into the same category that you place Vick into. FWIW - I don't think this is a good FOOTBALL move. Didn't want Vick here due to the Tebow-like sideshow that would follow - and your posts pretty much prove my point but its the same thing....ur saying if i wish harm to or am happy that harm falls upon a human being who has made mistakes that i am just as bad. while i agree that killing millions odf people is alor worse than killing hundreds of dogs its still the same issue. i am wishing harm to a person who made mistakes. hitler paid for his crimes with his life...the ultimate penalty. what about a child molester who only did it once and went to jail and is out and back in society? am i wrong to want him dead? i think not. you are entitled to your opinion.....but for you to say i am just as bad as vick is stupid.....and honestly i really dont give a rats ass what you think of me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I've been in San Antonio the past couple days, haven't seen one yet. #gipped And you probably won't be unless your invited. It's illegal The same as you probably won't be invited to smoke a joint by passing strangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 blind outrage Nope. Not the same. Dog murdering =/= "too many defensive linemen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Get over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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