SoFlaJets Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 from JC-that Herm wants out and Tuna wants back in-go over and look-there's a link provided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 If this were to happen I would never speak a negative word about Richi Rich again. I have had the feeling since the Eddie George signing that Parcells and Jerry Jones do not see eye to eye and it was made worse with several other players. Bring him home richie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yeah, that's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Parcells coming to the Jets is not going to happen- we want to stick to reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Personally I don't think this will ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I wouldn't say that it is totally out of the relm of possibility. It actually makes sense. All his family is still in the area. He is getting old. And finally he appears sick of an owner operator like Jerry Jones. He has not had the total control in Dallas that he has invisioned when he took the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Revenge against Belichick, who knows. But this will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_andy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Actually it states that Parcells would be interested in coming back as a GM and hire a new head coach, and would want full control of football operations. The info is from an anonymous source reported to the Dino Costas Show. So, who knows. Wouldn't be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Well if there's an owner to have that will let a coach 'coach away' without interference it's Woody Johnson. Johnson would be the ideal owner for an egomaniac HC/GM type like Parcells. Of course if Fat Ass would have stuck around he would have figured it our for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 When Mort was just asked about other possible coaching changes he was waiting to hear today he said that possibly Herm Edwards "where there is smoke there is fire" and Dallas where they were expecting to hear Parcells is stepping down. Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Is this the part in the story where Parcells pulls a Belichick on the Boys and goes to the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Well, I don't know about you guys, but being a Jets fan for too many years to remember, Parcells was the only HC (including Weeb) where every game I felt we had a chance to win. Did I like that he abandoned us like baby left on a door step? Hell no! But, at least we had respectability around the league...something this team doesn't even have the slightest clue at being. Respected, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Well, I don't know about you guys, but being a Jets fan for too many years to remember, Parcells was the only HC (including Weeb) where every game I felt we had a chance to win. Did I like that he abandoned us like baby left on a door step? Hell no! But, at least we had respectability around the league...something this team doesn't even have the slightest clue at being. Respected, that is. i agree on EVERY FREAKIN WORD in your post,,, damn, every freakin word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 When Mort was just asked about other possible coaching changes he was waiting to hear today he said that possibly Herm Edwards "where there is smoke there is fire" and Dallas where they were expecting to hear Parcells is stepping down. Hmmmm. OK STOP IT! JUST STOP!! I'm getting too excited over here! No, but seriously. If we got draft picks for Herm, brought the Tuna back, and get a new head coach (JEFF FISHER PLEASE), it would be a HUGE step for this franchise. Instant winning mentality. That being said, I am not so sure I want Parcells as our GM. His drafts leave ALOT to be desired. But if thats what it takes to bring Parcells back, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 ok, here is the choice , Parcells as GM and Jerry Mathers from Leave it to Beaver as HC ,,or Herm stays??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I am not so sure I want Parcells as our GM. His drafts leave ALOT to be desired. As opposed to the great ones we have now under Bradway? (Vilma would be an exception) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 The whole Parcells is a bad GM thing is rediculous. He made some mistakes but lets see his 5 year track record from 1995-2000 vs Bradway's. BP Ty Law, Troy Brown, Randy Thomas, J Abe, S Ellis, C Martin, T Glenn, C Pennington, L Coles, Fabini, Fergeson. These are just off the top of my head. Now for Bradway Vilma, L Jordan, K McKenzie. Can't think of anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 As opposed to the great ones we have now under Bradway? (Vilma would be an exception) Eh, I actually think Bradway has really done well with the draft. Look at all these players Randy Thomas, Kareem McKenzie, Adrian Jones, Kerry Rhodes, Erik Coleman, Jonathan Vilma, Nugent, Miller, Houston. Now he has made some mistakes, but I think his good outweighs his bad (Thomas over Reed). People dont realize, but Vilma was no slam dunk pick, nobody in the draft is. Terry deserves credit for that one. Like I said, if thats what it takes to get the Tuna back, so be it. I'm not married to Bradway as the GM, I think he's done a fine job, but it could have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Bradway didnt draft Randy Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Bradway didnt draft Randy Thomas. Who did? Oh yeah, lets not forget LaMont Jordan. Its not Terrys fault that Herm is a di**head and didnt use him enough. Terry drafted a helluva talent in the 2nd rd that year in LaMont. Its pretty obvious that Terry has gotten a worser wrap because Herm is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Who did? Oh yeah, lets not forget LaMont Jordan. Its not Terrys fault that Herm is a di**head and didnt use him enough. Terry drafted a helluva talent in the 2nd rd that year in LaMont. Its pretty obvious that Terry has gotten a worser wrap because Herm is an idiot. Parcells pick Randy Thomas in the second round. Bradway's 5 year record does not even come close to Parcells. And I did not even remember about guys like Lawyer Milloy, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Parcells pick Randy Thomas in the second round. Bradway's 5 year record does not even come close to Parcells. And I did not even remember about guys like Lawyer Milloy, ect. Parcells seems to be either HIT or MISS to grade an entire draft. I remember looking through some of his jets drafts (the orlando pace year), and we got nothing in that draft. That really was a colossal screw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Barton I do agree with you though that Bradway's drafts would look much better if he had someone to coach them and didn't listen to Herm about certain players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Parcells seems to be either HIT or MISS to grade an entire draft. I remember looking through some of his jets drafts (the orlando pace year), and we got nothing in that draft. That really was a colossal screw up. No one is perfect in the draft. But Parcells was a helluva lot more accurate. Farrior would have developed here if he got the right coaching. Overall Farrior was a solid pick and it is easy to want O Pace now when our o-line is the worst in the league. But when Parcells was here and even in 2001 our O-Line was the best in the league with lower salaried guys. I could see him not wanting to spend big bucks on a #1 overall player 2 straight years in a row. It would have killed the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Barton I do agree with you though that Bradway's drafts would look much better if he had someone to coach them and didn't listen to Herm about certain players. Ya know what I just realized. It scares me, Parcells LOVES Curtis Martin. If Parcells come here, we'll undoubtedly be stuck with Martin for at least 1 more season. Maybe not, but I think the odds are Parcells would stick with him, even though Curtis is probably 1 of the 5 worst starting running back in the NFL right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 It scares me, Parcells LOVES Curtis Martin. If Parcells come here, we'll undoubtedly be stuck with Martin for at least 1 more season. Maybe not, but I think the odds are Parcells would stick with him, even though Curtis is probably 1 of the 5 worst starting running back in the NFL right now. Barton you are too much. You know what Parcells loves? Winning football games. Curtis went from being a 1,700 back to being bottom 5. That is what they call a terrible post. He had a busted knee. He said he could play. Blame the coach for playing him. But don't blame him for being a gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 It hasn't been 24 hours since the season ended and already the rumor mongers have Parcells becoming the new GM! Too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Barton you are too much. You know what Parcells loves? Winning football games. Curtis went from being a 1,700 back to being bottom 5. That is what they call a terrible post. He had a busted knee. He said he could play. Blame the coach for playing him. But don't blame him for being a gamer. Why is Martin so selfish? Look at steven davis in carolina, handing the rock to Foster because he knew it would help the team. And Holmes splitting it with Larry Johnson for the good of the team. Curtis was selfish, he knew he was playing like sh** and that the team needed a more effective ground game, but no, he continued on in search of his meaningless 1,000 yard streak which he did not get, and the team kept losing. Sometimes you have to shoot a horse when he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Why is Martin so selfish? Look at steven davis in carolina, handing the rock to Foster because he knew it would help the team. And Holmes splitting it with Larry Johnson for the good of the team. Curtis was selfish, he knew he was playing like sh** and that the team needed a more effective ground game, but no, he continued on in search of his meaningless 1,000 yard streak which he did not get, and the team kept losing. Sometimes you have to shoot a horse when he's dead. It's not Curtis' fault. You want players that will carry the rock on one leg. The problem is the coach who doesn't say enough is enough and sits him at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Barton you are too much. You know what Parcells loves? Winning football games. Curtis went from being a 1,700 back to being bottom 5. That is what they call a terrible post. He had a busted knee. He said he could play. Blame the coach for playing him. But don't blame him for being a gamer. Bingo!!!!!!!!! this might be one of main reasons i think Herm is negligent as a HC,,,playin a guy who ADMITS to bein 45% healthy and sittin a perfectly healthy young backup,,, all because as a explayer he cant seem to play youngsters,,plus he was puttin players future health at risk,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well, I don't know about you guys, but being a Jets fan for too many years to remember, Parcells was the only HC (including Weeb) where every game I felt we had a chance to win. Did I like that he abandoned us like baby left on a door step? Hell no! But, at least we had respectability around the league...something this team doesn't even have the slightest clue at being. Respected, that is. Right On Old Buddy..Tuna said he would Coach 3 years and he did!! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's not Curtis' fault. You want players that will carry the rock on one leg. The problem is the coach who doesn't say enough is enough and sits him at the right time. EB is not totally wrong! Yes you want a Gamer but if you play hurt and don't produce like Martin did in 02 when he had 2 high ankle sprains your a selfish stat player not a Team first player! Martin tried for his 1000+ this season and the only one that it would have done anything for is Statman himself!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Why is Martin so selfish? Look at steven davis in carolina, handing the rock to Foster because he knew it would help the team. And Holmes splitting it with Larry Johnson for the good of the team. Curtis was selfish, he knew he was playing like sh** and that the team needed a more effective ground game, but no, he continued on in search of his meaningless 1,000 yard streak which he did not get, and the team kept losing. Sometimes you have to shoot a horse when he's dead. You are looking at this all wrong Barton. Why do you insist the guy is being selfish? He has been the MAIN COG in this offense for along time. at no point was he ever selfish. Not one day. He was the leagues leading rushes last yr and he looked great. He got banged up and was still able to run the ball. We lose Chad & Fiedler and You could see Curtis Martin tried to be the guy thhe team could lean on. Even though the O-line was breaking down and we were as 1 dimensional as an NFL team can get. What on earth did you want this guy to do? Say " Nah...**** the Jets...play the rookie ill just cash my check this yr" ? WHY? so FANS could say he was another player "stealing" money? The guy played hurt because his HC asked him to. I call that a gamer. Not a selfish player. Oh and I think he has the right mindset. He did get injured. He was the leagues leading rusher last yr. He is in great shape and health(besides the knee) and he feels like he can still play. Why the F_ _ k would you want him to ride off into the sunset? To give Cedrik houston the ball cuz you liked the pick? a steady dose of Martin/Houston/Blylock is waht this team needs. Not to give 1 guy the ball and push for a meanigless record. It was HErman edwards who did that. I didn't see Curtis Martin holding press confrences saying " I want my 1,000yrd or else" It was Herm who proclaimed there was no other reason to play out the games except to get Curtis 1,000yrds. How on earth would you put this on Martin and then have the balls to say he is selfish? You have lost you god damned mind? Get the ******* USC RB"S out of your brain. We have 3 quality RB's and alot of money tied up in them. MOVE THE **** ON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBeans Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 You are looking at this all wrong Barton. Why do you insist the guy is being selfish? He has been the MAIN COG in this offense for along time. at no point was he ever selfish. Not one day. He was the leagues leading rushes last yr and he looked great. He got banged up and was still able to run the ball. We lose Chad & Fiedler and You could see Curtis Martin tried to be the guy thhe team could lean on. Even though the O-line was breaking down and we were as 1 dimensional as an NFL team can get. What on earth did you want this guy to do? Say " Nah...F#ck the Jets...play the rookie ill just cash my check this yr" ? WHY? so FANS could say he was another player "stealing" money? The guy played hurt because his HC asked him to. I call that a gamer. Not a selfish player. Oh and I think he has the right mindset. He did get injured. He was the leagues leading rusher last yr. He is in great shape and health(besides the knee) and he feels like he can still play. Why the F_ _ k would you want him to ride off into the sunset? To give Cedrik houston the ball cuz you liked the pick? a steady dose of Martin/Houston/Blylock is waht this team needs. Not to give 1 guy the ball and push for a meanigless record. It was HErman edwards who did that. I didn't see Curtis Martin holding press confrences saying " I want my 1,000yrd or else" It was Herm who proclaimed there was no other reason to play out the games except to get Curtis 1,000yrds. How on earth would you put this on Martin and then have the balls to say he is selfish? You have lost you god damned mind? Get the farging USC RB"S out of your brain. We have 3 quality RB's and alot of money tied up in them. MOVE THE F#ck ON. Maxman, spill in aisle three. Max, spill in aisle three - thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 You are looking at this all wrong Barton. Why do you insist the guy is being selfish? He has been the MAIN COG in this offense for along time. at no point was he ever selfish. Not one day. He was the leagues leading rushes last yr and he looked great. He got banged up and was still able to run the ball. We lose Chad & Fiedler and You could see Curtis Martin tried to be the guy thhe team could lean on. Even though the O-line was breaking down and we were as 1 dimensional as an NFL team can get. What on earth did you want this guy to do? Say " Nah...F#ck the Jets...play the rookie ill just cash my check this yr" ? WHY? so FANS could say he was another player "stealing" money? The guy played hurt because his HC asked him to. I call that a gamer. Not a selfish player. Oh and I think he has the right mindset. He did get injured. He was the leagues leading rusher last yr. He is in great shape and health(besides the knee) and he feels like he can still play. Why the F_ _ k would you want him to ride off into the sunset? To give Cedrik houston the ball cuz you liked the pick? a steady dose of Martin/Houston/Blylock is waht this team needs. Not to give 1 guy the ball and push for a meanigless record. It was HErman edwards who did that. I didn't see Curtis Martin holding press confrences saying " I want my 1,000yrd or else" It was Herm who proclaimed there was no other reason to play out the games except to get Curtis 1,000yrds. How on earth would you put this on Martin and then have the balls to say he is selfish? You have lost you god damned mind? Get the farging USC RB"S out of your brain. We have 3 quality RB's and alot of money tied up in them. MOVE THE F#ck ON. LMFAO I hope your joking. If Martin KNOWS he is 45% and the team is getting nothing from the ground game, and keeps losing, why should he carry on? Give the ball to the better player - Cedric Houston No doubt this falls moreso on Herm for not just sitting him out sooner, but Curtis should realize he was playing like crap and give the ball to the better player or at least SPLIT carries. That would be too much to ask for Curt, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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