kelly Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The 2014 New York Jets Roster: Better or Worse So Far ?Here we are at the beginning of April, with the big money free agents having all found their new homes, for the most part, it is time to take this break between free agency and the Draft to look at where the Jets have improved, as well as where they haven’t. Remember this is just a snapshot of where the Jets are on April 3rd, one month before the draft and five months before the season begins. For the sake of brevity I will only go through the starters and key reserves.QB – Geno Smith, Michael Vick, Matt Simms - This group has gotten better than a year ago and that would have been so even if they hadn’t added the number one ranked free agent quarterback on the market in Michael Vick. The reason being is the improvement in the final month of the season of Geno Smith and the natural progression that happens from year one to year two. For example, Mark Sanchez went from 12 touchdowns and 20 interceptions in his rookie year to 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions in year two. Expect Smith’s confidence to grow, his knowledge of the offense both in his reads and knowing when to run to improve and with more weapons his accuracy should increase as well. Smith also needs to make sure he makes those improvements because a competition with Vick is forthcoming. If Smith beats out Vick, I think he will and reading the tea leaves so does the organization, Smith will still have to be on his toes because Vick is a viable backup who can win games if Smith is injures or falters. With Simms as the backup there was no real threat to pull Smith and nowhere to go when he was struggling, now there is. Vick knows the offense from his time in Philadelphia, is mobile like Smith and still has the ability to succeed in the league. Vick is also turnover-prone and injury-prone so he isn’t perfect either. However for a guy labeled turnover-prone he has 128 career touchdowns to 85 interceptions which is great in comparison to the numbers Jets quarterbacks have put up in the last two years.Verdict: ImprovedRB – Chris Ivory, Bilal Powell, Mike Goodson - For right now this group is unchanged from the group that led the league in rushing for the final six weeks of the season. Ivory and Powell were a good tandem with Ivory wearing away at defenses and Powell being a change of pace runner who can catch out of the backfield as well as be a pass blocker on 3rd down. What the team is looking for is a back with speed to score from anywhere on the field that is also durable enough to handle the load if Chris Ivory gets injured again. The few glimpses we saw of Mike Goodson showed that he can be that guy but his legal troubles continue to drag on with the case most likely going to trial right before the season starts. The Jets have been looking at backs like Donald Brown, Maurice Jones-Drew and most currently Chris Johnson in free agency but if the price isn’t right they can certainly look to fill the need in the draft with a player such as Dri Archer, who is coming in to visit the Jets on April 17.Verdict: None so far, but most likely improved because they got only five quarters of play from Goodson last year.WR – Eric Decker, Jeremy Kerley, David Nelson, Stephen Hill, Jacoby Ford, Greg Salas - Signing Eric Decker, the number one ranked free agent wide receiver, already guarantees that this year’s group will be better than last year’s mess. Decker is 6’3″ tall, can get down the field (averages approximately 15 yards per catch), and has had back to back 80+ catch seasons. More impressively, in 2011 he had 44 receptions and eight touchdowns with Tim Tebow throwing to him. In three years as a starter he has 32 touchdowns already which is a huge number. The Jets are not done with this position either, this is one of the best wide receiver drafts of all-time and the Jets will most likely draft 1 or 2 to add to the receiving core. They could also take a flyer on Sidney Rice. Jacoby Ford will mainly be a special teams player possibly filling the kick and/or punt returner role but with 4.28 speed he may get some gadget plays to get him in space as a receiver.Verdict: Improved already and probably will improve much more by the start of the seasonTE: Jeff Cumberland, Zach Sudfeld, Chris Pantale - Cumberland resigned with the Jets on a very team friendly deal and has a chance to break out this year and realize his potential. The goal for the Jets at the position is to get a dual threat tight end in the draft and take away most of Cumberland’s blocking responsibilities, letting him split out wide and find favorable match ups. He will also be helped by an improved wide receiving core which will force defenses to focus their attention elsewhere. He must catch the ball when thrown to him as he drops way too many balls. Cumberland will be a good number two tight end. The Jets will most likely have one of these five players as their number one tight end: Eric Ebron, Jace Amaro, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Troy Niklas or CJ Fiedorowicz. The last three have the most experience playing in-line. Kellen Winslow Jr. will not be back. His season on the field showed signs of promise but it was a nightmare off the field.Verdict: Not Improved, but needs to be revisited after the draft to get a better grasp of whether it will be improved by the start of the season.OL: D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Brian Winters, Nick Mangold, Willie Colon, Breno Giacomini, Oday Aboushi, William Campbell, Ben Ijalana, Dalton Freeman - The Jets have kept the group together with the exception of swapping Austin Howard for Breno Giacomini. Giacomini was the starting right tackle for the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks the last couple of years and although his play grades out pretty much the same as Austin Howard, he has a nasty streak like Willie Colon and that attitude is what wins in the trenches. The resigning of Willie Colon was very important because he became the vocal leader of the line and big reason the line jelled in the last month and a half of the season. The Jets led the league in rushing the last six weeks of the year and kept Geno Smith upright, which allowed the young signal-caller to show his improvement in the final month. Getting Dalton Freeman back goes unnoticed but his emergence in camp last year showed that he can be a valuable backup to Nick Mangold in case of injury, which is something the Jets haven’t had. Whether the line will be improved or not will depend on whether Winters takes the lessons he learned as a rookie and comes back better and whether Campbell, Aboushi and Ijalana progressed far enough from their 1st year to challenge Winters if he struggles or replace Colon if he gets injured. The Jets brought in Rich Ornberger this week. Ornberger, a Long Island native, played in 13 games last year for the Chargers and has bounced around with the Patriots and Cardinals. He would be a quality backup at the guard position if signed.Verdict: Slightly improved. I think Giacomini’s intangibles make him a slightly better choice at right tackle than Howard, especially at Howard’s new salary. Also, Winters should be much improved with a year’s experience, adjusting to the speed of the NFL game and his new position.It isn’t the big splashy moves that most want, except for Vick and Decker, but the Jets have gotten better on offense. They’re better because their rookie quarterback isn’t a rookie anymore, they’re better because they brought in a quality backup to push Smith and they’re better because they got a playmaker in Decker. They are better because their young lineman got a year of experience and they aren’t done yet, with 12 draft picks and some good free agents still out there, there is plenty of room to improve even more.> http://thejetpress.com/2014/04/03/20...chris-ivory/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The 2014 New York Jets Roster: Better or Worse So Far ? Here we are at the beginning of April, with the big money free agents having all found their new homes, for the most part, it is time to take this break between free agency and the Draft to look at where the Jets have improved, as well as where they haven’t. Remember this is just a snapshot of where the Jets are on April 3rd, one month before the draft and five months before the season begins. For the sake of brevity I will only go through the starters and key reserves. QB – Geno Smith, Michael Vick, Matt Simms - This group has gotten better than a year ago and that would have been so even if they hadn’t added the number one ranked free agent quarterback on the market in Michael Vick. The reason being is the improvement in the final month of the season of Geno Smith and the natural progression that happens from year one to year two. For example, Mark Sanchez went from 12 touchdowns and 20 interceptions in his rookie year to 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions in year two. Expect Smith’s confidence to grow, his knowledge of the offense both in his reads and knowing when to run to improve and with more weapons his accuracy should increase as well. Smith also needs to make sure he makes those improvements because a competition with Vick is forthcoming. If Smith beats out Vick, I think he will and reading the tea leaves so does the organization, Smith will still have to be on his toes because Vick is a viable backup who can win games if Smith is injures or falters. With Simms as the backup there was no real threat to pull Smith and nowhere to go when he was struggling, now there is. Vick knows the offense from his time in Philadelphia, is mobile like Smith and still has the ability to succeed in the league. Vick is also turnover-prone and injury-prone so he isn’t perfect either. However for a guy labeled turnover-prone he has 128 career touchdowns to 85 interceptions which is great in comparison to the numbers Jets quarterbacks have put up in the last two years. Verdict: Improved RB – Chris Ivory, Bilal Powell, Mike Goodson - For right now this group is unchanged from the group that led the league in rushing for the final six weeks of the season. Ivory and Powell were a good tandem with Ivory wearing away at defenses and Powell being a change of pace runner who can catch out of the backfield as well as be a pass blocker on 3rd down. What the team is looking for is a back with speed to score from anywhere on the field that is also durable enough to handle the load if Chris Ivory gets injured again. The few glimpses we saw of Mike Goodson showed that he can be that guy but his legal troubles continue to drag on with the case most likely going to trial right before the season starts. The Jets have been looking at backs like Donald Brown, Maurice Jones-Drew and most currently Chris Johnson in free agency but if the price isn’t right they can certainly look to fill the need in the draft with a player such as Dri Archer, who is coming in to visit the Jets on April 17. Verdict: None so far, but most likely improved because they got only five quarters of play from Goodson last year. WR – Eric Decker, Jeremy Kerley, David Nelson, Stephen Hill, Jacoby Ford, Greg Salas - Signing Eric Decker, the number one ranked free agent wide receiver, already guarantees that this year’s group will be better than last year’s mess. Decker is 6’3″ tall, can get down the field (averages approximately 15 yards per catch), and has had back to back 80+ catch seasons. More impressively, in 2011 he had 44 receptions and eight touchdowns with Tim Tebow throwing to him. In three years as a starter he has 32 touchdowns already which is a huge number. The Jets are not done with this position either, this is one of the best wide receiver drafts of all-time and the Jets will most likely draft 1 or 2 to add to the receiving core. They could also take a flyer on Sidney Rice. Jacoby Ford will mainly be a special teams player possibly filling the kick and/or punt returner role but with 4.28 speed he may get some gadget plays to get him in space as a receiver. Verdict: Improved already and probably will improve much more by the start of the season TE: Jeff Cumberland, Zach Sudfeld, Chris Pantale - Cumberland resigned with the Jets on a very team friendly deal and has a chance to break out this year and realize his potential. The goal for the Jets at the position is to get a dual threat tight end in the draft and take away most of Cumberland’s blocking responsibilities, letting him split out wide and find favorable match ups. He will also be helped by an improved wide receiving core which will force defenses to focus their attention elsewhere. He must catch the ball when thrown to him as he drops way too many balls. Cumberland will be a good number two tight end. The Jets will most likely have one of these five players as their number one tight end: Eric Ebron, Jace Amaro, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Troy Niklas or CJ Fiedorowicz. The last three have the most experience playing in-line. Kellen Winslow Jr. will not be back. His season on the field showed signs of promise but it was a nightmare off the field. Verdict: Not Improved, but needs to be revisited after the draft to get a better grasp of whether it will be improved by the start of the season. OL: D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Brian Winters, Nick Mangold, Willie Colon, Breno Giacomini, Oday Aboushi, William Campbell, Ben Ijalana, Dalton Freeman - The Jets have kept the group together with the exception of swapping Austin Howard for Breno Giacomini. Giacomini was the starting right tackle for the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks the last couple of years and although his play grades out pretty much the same as Austin Howard, he has a nasty streak like Willie Colon and that attitude is what wins in the trenches. The resigning of Willie Colon was very important because he became the vocal leader of the line and big reason the line jelled in the last month and a half of the season. The Jets led the league in rushing the last six weeks of the year and kept Geno Smith upright, which allowed the young signal-caller to show his improvement in the final month. Getting Dalton Freeman back goes unnoticed but his emergence in camp last year showed that he can be a valuable backup to Nick Mangold in case of injury, which is something the Jets haven’t had. Whether the line will be improved or not will depend on whether Winters takes the lessons he learned as a rookie and comes back better and whether Campbell, Aboushi and Ijalana progressed far enough from their 1st year to challenge Winters if he struggles or replace Colon if he gets injured. The Jets brought in Rich Ornberger this week. Ornberger, a Long Island native, played in 13 games last year for the Chargers and has bounced around with the Patriots and Cardinals. He would be a quality backup at the guard position if signed. Verdict: Slightly improved. I think Giacomini’s intangibles make him a slightly better choice at right tackle than Howard, especially at Howard’s new salary. Also, Winters should be much improved with a year’s experience, adjusting to the speed of the NFL game and his new position. It isn’t the big splashy moves that most want, except for Vick and Decker, but the Jets have gotten better on offense. They’re better because their rookie quarterback isn’t a rookie anymore, they’re better because they brought in a quality backup to push Smith and they’re better because they got a playmaker in Decker. They are better because their young lineman got a year of experience and they aren’t done yet, with 12 draft picks and some good free agents still out there, there is plenty of room to improve even more. > http://thejetpress.com/2014/04/03/20...chris-ivory/2/great job bud!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Just don't know how Rex is going to squeeze three wins out of this lemon (((( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Just don't know how Rex is going to squeeze three wins out of this lemon (((( I really want to squeeze your head like a lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 This roster is just like last season except for Eric Decker being a Wide Receiver for Geno to throw to now. Still no #1 WR. This might be another bad to .500 season since Idzik saved money mostly. They will probably beat the lower tier nfl teams they will face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Obviously better. For multiple reasons. We will be a better team baring the injury bug hits again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I really want to squeeze your head like a lemon. Squeeze dis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Squeeze dis You'd better be pointing to your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 You'd better be pointing to your girlfriend. I'll trade you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I really want to squeeze your head like a lemon. Between your thighs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Between your thighs? BOOM #Stronzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 BOOM #Stronzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Between your thighs? Whatever it takes to get him to admit Rex did a good job last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Just don't know how Rex is going to squeeze three wins out of this lemon (((( 5...max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 5...max I'll take the over on a 5.5 win season. Bet you a jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 last I checked the offense wasn't the problem, it was the cornerback play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I think the Jets are a little better , sign a good QB and a good WR but the team has much to do , the teams needs CB,OG,LB,SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I think the Jets are a little better , sign a good QB and a good WR but the team has much to do , the teams needs CB,OG,LB,SS Don't they need a FS, not a SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 last I checked the offense wasn't the problem, it was the cornerback play better check again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Its all relative. Yes we got slightly better and more time is left so I wont be too critical, but i think the bills and pats improved more. The dolphins are still just a bunch of players together with no leader, they have talent but Im more worried about the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 better check again... haven't you heard ? the loss of cromartie is devastating. the ramifications will carry over to 2015, when idzik will have to spend 50 million dollars on Jeremy kerley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 One of the first/only write-ups that use improvement of last year's rookies (and 4 of them started for us as rookies last season) will lead to improvement from last season without changing the roster. The people having panic attacks are posting/behaving as though the only way to improve the team is by bringing in new/different players. Let's see if they still suck before we get out the pitchforks for them to be relegated to 2nd/3rd string. If we were contenders this year, that would be one thing. But last year we had so many positions that needed improvement for us to be serious contenders, that I'm fine with watching them improve another year before spending as though we were contenders in '14. Easy for me to say that, though, as I didn't shell out $ for a PSL. I freely admit that would bug the crap out of me to pay through the nose to watch the team suck for 1 year and then the next 2 seasons we know in the summer they're still not serious contenders. But I'm not in that position, so I'm fine watching the young guys improve. If they don't then Idzik will be tough to defend. If he gets a lot out of these first 2 drafts, he'll look plenty smart for not adding an overpriced FA that would have meant passing on a draftee at that position, or also would've meant a young surprise find would have been stuck on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 haven't you heard ? the loss of cromartie is devastating. the ramifications will carry over to 2015, when idzik will have to spend 50 million dollars on Jeremy kerley oh ! !..so you're serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 oh ! !..so you're serious as serious as idzik low balling DRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 as serious as idzik low balling DRC got it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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