GlennFoley Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Hes not a great GM.. He overpays older players.. Look at Vinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yeah, god forbid we get a General Manager who knows what they're doing And while Bill may have overpaid for Vinny, who overpaid for Chad, Curtis, and everyone else who's overpaid on this current roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 In the past I have stuck up for you Foley. But I just can't on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Hes not a great GM.. He overpays older players.. Look at Vinny And Bradway is? Do you really think Parcells would have given up two 1sts and a 4th for a fat, underachieving load? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I still have resentment towards Parcells leaving us hanging That being said I do not think you can argue his knowledge and judgement of talent in his career. Look at his roster and who Dallas has drafted- Marion Barber, Julius Jones at RB- Dallas had a great draft just bringing in Demarcus Ware at defensive end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennFoley Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Im not a Bradway fan either, and I think Parcells would be an upgrade over him, but is BP really worth the distraction? I would love him as a coach, but as a GM? I just don't know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Just because we have a bad GM now, does not mean that we have to have a self-absorbed, short term plan man, that is looking to duck out of an organization because he has a wild hair. It is time to build smartly with someone that has a long range vision, rather to keep mortgaging the future for rainbow hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 It is time to build smartly with someone that has a long range vision, rather to keep mortgaging the future for rainbow hopes. Dierk, you have that already. Aren't Bradway and Hermy on a 10-year plan? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I still have resentment towards Parcells leaving us hanging That being said I do not think you can argue his knowledge and judgement of talent in his career. Look at his roster and who Dallas has drafted- Marion Barber, Julius Jones at RB- Dallas had a great draft just bringing in Demarcus Ware at defensive end In the long run, I think passing on Steven Jackson will prove to be a mistake. Who did the cowboys get with their other draft picks in the trade (besides julius jones)?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dierk, you have that already. Aren't Bradway and Hermy on a 10-year plan? :wink: TX-If you have something bad currently (we agree), it is smarter to build with a plan, rather than a hope and a stab (Parcells). Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennFoley Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Just because we have a bad GM now, does not mean that we have to have a self-absorbed, short term plan man, that is looking to duck out of an organization because he has a wild hair. It is time to build smartly with someone that has a long range vision, rather to keep mortgaging the future for rainbow hopes. This is what I was trying to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 In the long run, I think passing on Steven Jackson will prove to be a mistake. Who did the cowboys get with their other draft picks in the trade (besides julius jones)?? EricBarton I really do not know that answer-I went based on his value in the round he was taken-Jones was an excellent pick Jackson might turn out to be better in the future but Dallas got 2 good young running backs -something for us to be jealous of right now as Jet fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 In the long run, I think passing on Steven Jackson will prove to be a mistake. Who did the cowboys get with their other draft picks in the trade (besides julius jones)?? (Sports Network) - Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells plotted strategies in the ' draft room that resulted in accomplishing one of the club's main goals for draft weekend: add depth to the offensive line, secondary and running back position. But did this accomplishment come at the expense of acquiring a potential franchise running back? Dallas' decision to pass on Oregon State's , the No. 1-ranked rusher in the draft, speaks volumes about Parcells' evaluation of Jackson and his belief in Notre Dame's , who was added to provide a spark in the running game. Still, it remains to be seen just what the are missing out on with Jackson. The were determined to get Tulane's after they missed out on the big three QBs and wound up with WR with the 13th overall pick. Buffalo gave the a 2005 first-round pick, which could be at the top of round one unless Buffalo improves in 2004, in the trade to acquire Dallas' No. 1 (22nd overall). The biggest problem with this trade is the passing on Jackson, who is an ultra-talented workhorse back. Dallas is in dire need of a feature back and Jackson could have been a star in Big D. Even more puzzling was the selection of Jones with the second-round pick acquired from Buffalo. Jones' football career was on the rocks three years ago before his brother, Chicago's , helped him get back on the Irish roster. The difference between Jackson and Jones in terms of NFL potential is light years. Jackson is capable of carrying the ball 25 times per game; Jones had fumbling problems and might not be more than a third-down back. It's a risky move for a win-now team. The trade also left the out of the hunt for Jackson, Michigan's and Virginia Tech's . The draft's top-three RBs all went between picks 24 and 30. The plan to move , a great value pick at No. 52, from left to right tackle. Dallas also came up with a solid lineman in round three with the addition of LSU's , who is a solid, durable guard with nice mobility and a mean streak. Parcells is sending a message to his underachieving offensive linemen by adding young talent at the tackle and guard position so high in the draft. Parcells is beginning to build this team like his old Giant teams -- strong defense, physical offensive line and an offense that can control the clock in the fourth quarter. 's ability to manage a game was a huge factor in the trade with Houston. With Henson and an extra No. 1 pick on board, it's surprising to see the building for the long haul. This draft comes down to acquiring offensive line depth versus a possible franchise running back. Jones and Parcells wanted to upgrade at cornerback, but the selections of Rutgers' and Purdue's don't indicate a substantial upgrade opposite . Club also failed to land a run-stuffing defensive tackle at any point. Does Parcells have visions of Mark Bavaro when he sees ? The BC rookie will team up with to form an interesting one-two punch. 2004 Draft Picks: (2nd round-43rd overall) RB-Julius Jones, Notre Dame; (2-52) OT-Jacob Rogers, USC; (3-83) OG-Stephen Peterman, LSU; (4-121) CB-Bruce Thornton, Georgia; (5-144) TE-Sean Ryan, Boston College; (7-205) CB-Nathan Jones, Rutgers; (7-216) WR-Patrick Crayton, NW Oklahoma State; (7-223) CB- , Purdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 TX-If you have something bad currently (we agree), it is smarter to build with a plan, rather than a hope and a stab (Parcells). Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me I hear you Dierk. I'm not a big proponent of mortgaging the future either, especially with draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Dallas didn't just get J Jones. They also got M Spears. Jones had a high ankle sprain this year that he played through. But when healthy he is every bit as good as Jackson imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr nyjet Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 And Bradway is? Do you really think Parcells would have given up two 1sts and a 4th for a fat, underachieving load? I doubt it. true. the list of star players he drafted in foxboro, ny, and dallas makes dumbway look like an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Parcells isnt coming to NY, we arent that lucky shut up about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Parcells isnt coming to NY, we arent that lucky shut up about this Really. This is just as bad if not worse than the Reggie Bush talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Really. This is just as bad if not worse than the Reggie Bush talk. Yea we should be talking about reality. So I can't wait for these next 3 years of She-man Edwards football mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Yea we should be talking about reality. So I can't wait for these next 3 years of She-man Edwards football mediocrity. we'll be lucky to see mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 we'll be lucky to see mediocrity Better yet we'll be lucky if it's only 3 more years. How long before Sheman gets his extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 good point, Herm will most likely be here throughout the decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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