SoFlaJets Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Lazy bastid... Numbers game: A lot of work goes into a draft. It takes almost a full year for the entire scouting process. Former GM Terry Bradway, the senior director of college scouting, provided his annual numbers breakdown, illustrating the point: Number of schools visited: 263. Number of school visits: 575. Number of players written up in scouting reports: 1,372. Number of player evaluations: 3,500. Player interviews: 635. Pro days attended: 115. College games attended: 120. The numbers remain fairly steady from year to year, and you can bet every other team is doing the same amount of homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It is amazing when you think about all the analysis and reviews that go into this process. And still a lot of luck is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Give Bradway credit, he is a f'in survivor. Like a cockroach after a Nuclear Blast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 All that and we still drated Gholston and Vlad, not sure why he is still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I remember the first year he was GM he spent the first day of free agency at Disney World. Ahh...the Herm years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I remember the first year he was GM he spent the first day of free agency at Disney World. Ahh...the Herm years. If I am not mistaken he worked from home almost all the time,,maybe Idzik has changed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 All that and we still drated Gholston and Vlad, not sure why he is still around. Tough to say without knowing his scouting reports on either of them. Can't assume all of the scouts are to blame for Tanny's idiotic decisions, especially considering those were just as prevelant on the pro personnel side as they were in the draft (it's certainly possible Bradway was on board with both picks, but who knows). Given that it was Bradway allegedly screaming in the draft room for Wilson over Hill, it seems that Tanny didn't exactly defer to him on all picks. It's more likely that Bradway supported the Vlad pick given that he was a far less highly touted prospect, while Gholston was simply the last "big name" player on the board at the time of his pick, so that seemed to be made more by default than any particular glowing interest by the team in him. While he was obviously not the greatest of GMs for this team, whether it is deserved or not Bradway does seem to have a pretty good reputation around the league for his scouting purposes, and the fact that Idzik chose to retain him even after replacing the vast majority of the Jets scouting department seems to say something about how he feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 All that and we still drated Gholston and Vlad, not sure why he is still around. weren't they drafted under Tanny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Tough to say without knowing his scouting reports on either of them. Can't assume all of the scouts are to blame for Tanny's idiotic decisions, especially considering those were just as prevelant on the pro personnel side as they were in the draft (it's certainly possible Bradway was on board with both picks, but who knows). Given that it was Bradway allegedly screaming in the draft room for Wilson over Hill, it seems that Tanny didn't exactly defer to him on all picks. It's more likely that Bradway supported the Vlad pick given that he was a far less highly touted prospect, while Gholston was simply the last "big name" player on the board at the time of his pick, so that seemed to be made more by default than any particular glowing interest by the team in him. While he was obviously not the greatest of GMs for this team, whether it is deserved or not Bradway does seem to have a pretty good reputation around the league for his scouting purposes, and the fact that Idzik chose to retain him even after replacing the vast majority of the Jets scouting department seems to say something about how he feels. Bradway's major mistake as GM in my mind would be Edwards as HC, and even then ike Tanny nearly won a championship and would have with some luck and a better HC. As far as the scouting deparatment goes, in my opinion their job is to locate guys under the radar, who can come in the from of UFA, or late round steals, and I don't really see that with Bradway, considering the way Tanny traded picks we could have used more of it, I think Snacks and Woodhead are both UDFA who have become exceptional players. the Jets don't seem to give UDFA enough of a chance, I think Campbell should have played a lot last season, yet the guy never really saw the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 weren't they drafted under Tanny? bradway was Tanny's head scout, a position he retained under Idzik, he was retained by the organization because he had some success, I don't specifically know what decisions he signed off on, as far as Mangini, Vlad, but he most likely was sold on Gholston, with Sanchez these guys are the only top 5 picks we've had in a couple of decades, and he was instrumental in both, last year was a decent draft and the three stooge combo of Gholston (Bradway) Sanchez (REX) and VLAD (Idzik) should be okay, I'm happy with it because the roster is improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Give Bradway credit, he is a f'in survivor. Like a cockroach after a Nuclear Blast BUMP cause damn, this guy has some great Corporate Political skills or pictures of Woody from his Frat Days when his Frat visited the Petting Zoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Tough to say without knowing his scouting reports on either of them. Can't assume all of the scouts are to blame for Tanny's idiotic decisions, especially considering those were just as prevelant on the pro personnel side as they were in the draft (it's certainly possible Bradway was on board with both picks, but who knows). Given that it was Bradway allegedly screaming in the draft room for Wilson over Hill, it seems that Tanny didn't exactly defer to him on all picks. It's more likely that Bradway supported the Vlad pick given that he was a far less highly touted prospect, while Gholston was simply the last "big name" player on the board at the time of his pick, so that seemed to be made more by default than any particular glowing interest by the team in him. While he was obviously not the greatest of GMs for this team, whether it is deserved or not Bradway does seem to have a pretty good reputation around the league for his scouting purposes, and the fact that Idzik chose to retain him even after replacing the vast majority of the Jets scouting department seems to say something about how he feels. Given Tannybum was the major idiot....let us not forget that idiot #2 is now in Oakland. I think Bradway is pretty far down on the idiot scale. Do not forget he never claimed to be a GM. He is a capologist who, by his own admission, forced into the GM role and bailed at the first opportunity to get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Given Tannybum was the major idiot....let us not forget that idiot #2 is now in Oakland. I think Bradway is pretty far down on the idiot scale. Do not forget he never claimed to be a GM. He is a capologist who, by his own admission, forced into the GM role and bailed at the first opportunity to get out. I think Bradway is a scout, not a capologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 BUMP cause damn, this guy has some great Corporate Political skills or pictures of Woody from his Frat Days when his Frat visited the Petting Zoo Beat me to the punch. It's the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 All that and we still drated Gholston and Vlad, not sure why he is still around. Not to mention Dwayne Robertson, Mike Nugent and Justin Miller to name just a few since Bradway has been here. His best draft was 2000 when he got Sean Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington and Anthony Becht. Could have done without Becht but he also grabbed Laveranues Coles in the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 bradway was Tanny's head scout, a position he retained under Idzik, he was retained by the organization because he had some success, I don't specifically know what decisions he signed off on, as far as Mangini, Vlad, but he most likely was sold on Gholston, with Sanchez these guys are the only top 5 picks we've had in a couple of decades, and he was instrumental in both, last year was a decent draft and the three stooge combo of Gholston (Bradway) Sanchez (REX) and VLAD (Idzik) should be okay, I'm happy with it because the roster is improving. Idzik did not draft Vlad - That too was Tanny. Kyle Wilson was another Tannenbaum doozy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Bradway also gave us D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold as well as Jericho Cotchery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Bradway also gave us D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold as well as Jericho Cotchery. I thought those were tannys picks,no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Bradway also gave us D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold as well as Jericho Cotchery. Brick and Mangold were Tanny's first draft. Cotch was drafted under Bradway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Bradway also gave us D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold as well as Jericho Cotchery. That was Mangini, and if Bradway got Russell Wilson which he somehow leaked out he was banging the table for Rex would have told him to pack on 20 pounds for a wildcat package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 To Bradways credit, rumors 2 years ago were there was a huge shouting match in 2/3rd round over Russell Wilson. Bradway was touting Wilson all year and was livid Tanny passed on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Given Tannybum was the major idiot....let us not forget that idiot #2 is now in Oakland. I think Bradway is pretty far down on the idiot scale. Do not forget he never claimed to be a GM. He is a capologist who, by his own admission, forced into the GM role and bailed at the first opportunity to get out. Huh? Tannenbaum was the alleged capologist. The one who gave him that moniker was Parcells, and in comparison to the Tuna, who it seems couldn't concern himself with such unimportant nonsense - he may very well have been. But I never heard from anyone, anywhere, at any time that Terry Bradway was a capologist of any sort. Pretty sure Tannenbaum was Bradway's cap guy (same role that Tannenbaum had under Parcells). And Bradway as GM was Tuna's final gift to the Jets, to give the team the best chance possible of flopping after he left, to make his years look even better in hindsight (and kind of mission accomplished on that front). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Not to mention Dwayne Robertson, Mike Nugent and Justin Miller to name just a few since Bradway has been here. His best draft was 2000 when he got Sean Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington and Anthony Becht. Could have done without Becht but he also grabbed Laveranues Coles in the third round. Bradway wasn't hired until 2001. The 2000 draft was the almighty Tuna's last draft with Jets. IIRC, the reason we had 2 of the extra 1st round picks was for Belicheat and for the Keyshawn trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Huh? Tannenbaum was the alleged capologist. The one who gave him that moniker was Parcells, and in comparison to the Tuna, who it seems couldn't concern himself with such unimportant nonsense - he may very well have been. But I never heard from anyone, anywhere, at any time that Terry Bradway was a capologist of any sort. Pretty sure Tannenbaum was Bradway's cap guy (same role that Tannenbaum had under Parcells). And Bradway as GM was Tuna's final gift to the Jets, to give the team the best chance possible of flopping after he left, to make his years look even better in hindsight (and kind of mission accomplished on that front). Couldn't agree more about the Tuna. Plus Bradway was on the Chiefs staff at the time so he wasn't forced into anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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