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Best, worst picks for first 32 draft slots over last 10 years AND Milliner is a burger flipper!

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How the fck is Milliner a burger flipper?! Bullsht.

 

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  • 32

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    No. 32 pick: Logan Mankins, Derek Sherrod

    ROCK STAR: Logan Mankins, G, New England Patriots (2005)
    One of the premiere guards in the league, Mankins has been the Patriots' most stable lineman. He's started 130 games in nine seasons and is a six-time Pro Bowler and five-time All-Pro.

    Honorable mention: Mathias Kiwanuka (2006), Benjamin Watson (2004)

    BURGER-FLIPPER: Derek Sherrod, OT, Green Bay Packers (2011)
    Drafted to protect Aaron Rodgers, Sherrod has played in only 12 games in two years (zero starts) and missed all of 2012 with an injury.

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    No. 31 pick: Greg Olsen, Rashaun Woods

    ROCK STAR: Greg Olsen, TE, Chicago Bears (2007)
    Olsen is as sure-handed as you'll find at the tight end position and has been a big target for Jay Cutler and Cam Newton. He's averaged 55 catches and five touchdowns in his seven seasons.

    Honorable mention: Doug Martin (2012), Mike Patterson (2005)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Rashaun Woods, WR, San Francisco 49ers (2004)
    Woods played in 14 games his rookie season, garnering only seven receptions for 160 yards and a touchdown. He was never heard from again.

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    No. 30 pick: Heath Miller, A.J. Jenkins

    ROCK STAR: Heath Miller, TE, Pittsburgh Steelers (2005)
    A two-time Pro Bowl player, Miller has been Ben Roethlisberger's safety valve for years. He's averaged more than 50 catches and four touchdowns in his nine seasons.

    Honorable mention: Muhammed Wilkerson (2011), Joseph Addai (2006)

    BURGER FLIPPER: A.J. Jenkins, WR, San Francisco 49ers (2012)
    Jenkins has eight career receptions in 19 games. Below pedestrian.

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    No. 29 pick: Nick Mangold, Kentwan Balmer

    ROCK STAR: Nick Mangold, C, New York Jets (2006)
    No center in the last decade has been as durable and dependable as Mangold. He's started all 126 games in his eight seasons and is a five-time Pro Bowler and two-time All Pro.

    Honorable mention: Hakeem Nicks (2009), Ben Grubbs (2007)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Kentwan Balmer, DT, San Francisco 49ers (2008)
    Balmer failed to record a sack and only started 11 games in five seasons.

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    No. 28 pick: Joe Staley, Lawrence Jackson

    ROCK STAR: Joe Staley, OT, San Francisco 49ers (2007)
    Staley has started all 98 games he has played in during his seven-year career, including every game the last three seasons. A three-time Pro Bowler, he's the protector of Colin Kaepernick's blind side.

    Honorable mention: Chris Gamble (2004), Marcedes Lewis (2006)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Lawrence Jackson, DE, Seattle Seahawks (2008)
    An inconsistent starter in Seattle, Jackson was a solid sub for three seasons with the Lions before flaming out with 19 career sacks.

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    No. 27 pick: Roddy White, Jimmy Smith

    ROCK STAR: Roddy White, WR, Atlanta Falcons (2005)
    White has been a stellar NFL receiver. A five-time Pro Bowler and an All-Pro, he had a streak of six consecutive 1,000-yard seasons and even led the league in receptions (115) in 2010.

    Honorable mention: Jason Babin (2004), DeAngelo Williams (2006)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Jimmy Smith, CB, Baltimore Ravens (2011)
    It took Smith three seasons to become a starter in Baltimore but you want a first-round corner to have more than four interceptions in three years.

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    No. 26 pick: Clay Matthews, John McCargo

    ROCK STAR: Clay Matthews, LB, Green Bay Packers (2009)
    Matthews has missed a handful of games in recent years but otherwise he's been one of the most feared and consistent pass rushers in the NFL. A four-time Pro Bowler and an All-Pro, Matthews has 50 career sacks in five seasons with Green Bay.

    Honorable mention: Anthony Spencer (2007), Duane Brown (2008)

    BURGER FLIPPER: John McCargo, DT, Buffalo Bills (2006)
    McCargo has just one career start in six seasons and only a couple of sacks. That's rough for a first-round pick, regardless of an injury-riddled career.

  • 25

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    No. 25 pick: Jon Beason, Ahmad Carroll

    ROCK STAR: Jon Beason, LB, Carolina Panthers (2007)
    Beason was a monster his first four seasons in the league with Carolina. He started all 64 games, averaged more than 100 tackles per season, made three Pro Bowls and was named to the All-Pro team once. Injuries have cost him some of his productivity of late but he's still a respectable player for the Giants.

    Honorable mention: Santonio Holmes (2006), Mike Jenkins (2008)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Ahmad Carroll, CB, Green Bay Packers (2004)
    Carroll played well his first two years in the league, but ultimately has started just 28 games in five seasons with three career interceptions.

  • 24

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    No. 24 pick: Aaron Rodgers, Peria Jerry

    ROCK STAR: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers (2005)
    Rodgers' credentials speak for themselves: Super Bowl winner, league MVP, three-time Pro Bowler, All-Pro, 58 wins in six years as a starter, commercial pitchman.

    Honorable mention: Steven Jackson (2004), Dez Bryant (2010)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Peria Jerry, DT, Atlanta Falcons (2009)
    Jerry started just 15 games in four seasons and registered two sacks before bouncing back in 2013 with 14 starts and 3.5 sacks.

  • 23

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    No. 23 pick: Dwayne Bowe, Danny Watkins

    ROCK STAR: Dwayne Bowe, WR, Kansas City Chiefs (2007)
    Despite never playing with a top-level quarterback, Bowe has put up solid numbers in his seven seasons and at times has shown he's capable of being a premiere receiver.

    Honorable mention: Davin Joseph (2006), Michael Oher (2009)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Danny Watkins, G, Philadelphia Eagles (2011)
    The former Canadian firefighter started 12 games his rookie season but has only started six in the last two.

  • 22

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    No. 22 pick: Demaryius Thomas, Brady Quinn

    ROCK STAR: Demaryius Thomas, WR, Denver Broncos (2010)
    Thomas exploded onto the scene as an elite pass-catcher when Peyton Manning arrived in Denver. Two 90--plus-catch, 1,400-plus-yard seasons later, No. 88 is a two-time Pro Bowler and a feared NFL receiver who's only getting better.
    Honorable mention: Percy Harvin (2009), Manny Lawson (2006)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Brady Quinn, QB, Cleveland Browns (2007)
    Quinn is just 4-16 in his career as a starter and has better biceps than deep ball.

  • 21

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    No. 21 pick: Vince Wilfork, Matt Jones

    ROCK STAR: Vince Wilfork, DT, New England Patriots (2004)
    The Heavy Chevy is what you call a run-stopper, and has been among the best in the league at doing so during his 10-year career. A five-time Pro Bowler and once an All-Pro, Wilfork's value was seen last season when New England's run defense was non-existent after his year-ending injury.

    Honorable mention: Alex Mack (2009), Reggie Nelson (2007)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Matt Jones, WR, Jacksonville Jaguars (2005)
    High hopes heading into the league after playing quarterback in college, Jones started just 15 games in his four years and couldn't escape substance-abuse problems.

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    No. 20 pick: Tamba Hali, Kenechi Udeze

    ROCK STAR: Tamba Hali, DE, Kansas City Chiefs (2006)
    A three-time Pro Bowler, Hali has missed only three games in eight seasons. Durable, reliable, and fearless, he's sacked NFL quarterbacks 46.5 times in the last four years and is one of the game's premier pass rushers.

    Honorable mention: Aqib Talib (2008), Kendall Wright (2012)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Kenechi Udeze, DE, Minnesota Vikings (2004)
    Udeze had just 11 sacks in four seasons before his career was cut short by leukemia, .

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    No. 19 pick: Antonio Cromartie, Jeff Otah

    ROCK STAR: Antonio Cromartie, CB, San Diego Chargers (2006)
    Cromartie has been a very good NFL corner, being named a Pro Bowler three times and once an All-Pro. His 28 career interceptions place him 10th on the active list.

    Honorable mention: Michael Griffin (2007), Jeremy Maclin (2009)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Jeff Otah, OT, Carolina Panthers (2008)
    After a successful rookie season in which he started 12 games, Otah caught the injury bug and started just 17 more in his short career. He missed all of 2010 due to injury.

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    No. 18 pick: Joe Flacco, Erasmus James

    ROCK STAR: Joe Flacco, QB, Baltimore Ravens (2008)
    When you tell your owner, "Nah, I'm good" on signing a contract extension, then you go out and win the Super Bowl and sign a fresh $100 million deal, you're a Rock Star. It also helps to be 28 games over .500 for your career as a starter and 9-4 in the playoffs.

    Honorable mention: Will Smith (2004), Leon Hall (2007)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Erasmus James, DE, Minnesota Vikings (2005)
    James played just one full season (his first) and had five sacks in four seasons. His career was cut short by injury and an indefinite suspension by the league.

  • 17

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    No. 17 pick: Josh Freeman, David Pollack

    ROCK STAR: Josh Freeman, QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2009)
    Before the wheels inexplicably fell off in 2013, Freeman was a big-time NFL quarterback with a 10-win and 4,000-yard season under his belt. He looked on his way to becoming one of the bright young stars in the league. We'll see if he can regain that shine.

    Honorable mention: Chad Greenway (2006), Mike Iupati (2010)

    BURGER FLIPPER: David Pollack, LB, Cincinnati Bengals (2005)
    Pollack started just 6 of 16 games over two seasons and recorded 4.5 sacks before a neck injury cut short his career.

  • 16

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    No. 16 pick: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Justin Harrell

    ROCK STAR: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Arizona Cardinals (2008)
    DRC made the Pro Bowl as a rookie after a six-interception rookie season with the Cardinals, and has been steady throughout his six NFL years. His 19 career picks and more than 100 pass breakups make him still one of the league's top corners.

    Honorable mention: Ryan Kerrigan (2011), Shawn Andrews (2004)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Justin Harrell, DT, Green Bay Packers (2007)
    Harrell could never stay on the field for the Packers. He played in just 14 games in three seasons and missed all of 2009 with an injury.

  • 15

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    No. 15 pick: Derrick Johnson, Tye Hill

    ROCK STAR: Derrick Johnson, LB, Kansas City Chiefs (2005)
    Johnson has been as steady as they come in nine seasons with the Chiefs. A three-time Pro Bowler and once an All-Pro, he has 376 tackles in the last three years for a strong Kansas City defense.

    Honorable mention: Branden Albert (2008), Brian Cushing (2009)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Tye Hill, CB, St. Louis Rams (2006)
    Hill played only one full season (his first) in five years in the league and registered five career interceptions.

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    No. 14 pick: Darrelle Revis, Chris Williams

    ROCK STAR: Darrelle Revis, CB, New York Jets (2007)
    Fourteen is the draft slot for top defensive talent. Revis, a five-time Pro Bowler and three-time All-Pro, is widely considered the best cornerback of his generation, and renders half the field unusable whenever he's healthy. His 21 career interceptions seem low, but when no one throws your way out of fear, it's hard to pick anything off.

    Honorable mention: Earl Thomas (2010), Robert Quinn (2011)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Chris Williams, OT, Chicago Bears (2008)
    Inconsistent in his seven-year career, Williams has only been able to log three full seasons.

  • 13

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    No. 13 pick: Brian Orakpo, Brandon Graham

    ROCK STAR: Brian Orakpo, LB, Washington Redskins (2009)
    A three-time Pro Bowl player, Orakpo missed nearly all of 2012 and bounced back with 10 sacks last season to push his career total to 39.5. A feared edge rusher, he's among the game's best when at full strength.

    Honorable mention: Jammal Brown (2005), Sheldon Richardson (2013)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Brandon Graham, LB, Philadelphia Eagles (2010)
    Philadelphia traded up to get the Michigan standout and it hasn't exactly paid dividends. Graham has started just 12 games in four seasons and has registered 11.5 sacks.

  • 12

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    No. 12 pick: Haloti Ngata, Christian Ponder

    ROCK STAR: Haloti Ngata, DT, Baltimore Ravens (2006)
    Ngata has been the best defensive tackle in the game for several years now. Incredibly consistent and durable, he's missed just five games in eight seasons, not to mention he's a five-time Pro Bowler and two-time All-Pro pick.

    Honorable mention: Marshawn Lynch (2007), Ryan Clady (2008)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Christain Ponder, QB, Minnesota Vikings (2011)
    Another quarterback bust from 2011, Ponder had moments of competence but hasn't lived up to his first-round draft selection. He does have more touchdowns (38) than interceptions (34), which is more than some can say.

  • 11

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    No. 11 pick: Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Maybin

    ROCK STAR: Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers (2004) 
    This is far and away the most loaded of the first-round draft slots with four potential Hall of Famers taken here in the last decade. But when you play in a quarterback-driven league, and you're a quarterback who's won two Super Bowls (and played in another), you're the Rock Star of this group.

    Honorable mention: DeMarcus Ware (2005), Patrick Willis (2007), J.J. Watt (2011)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Aaron Maybin, DE, Buffalo Bills (2009) 
    Heralded as the next Bruce Smith when drafted, Maybin finished with six career sacks in four seasons. They all came in 2011.

  • 10

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    No. 10 pick: Jerod Mayo, Blaine Gabbert

    ROCK STAR: Jerod Mayo, LB, New England Patriots (2008)
    A two-time Pro Bowl player and once All-Pro selection, Mayo is the unquestioned leader of a consistently stout Patriots defense. His presence was clearly missed after going down in Week 6 of 2013 and missing the rest of the season.

    Honorable mention: Michael Crabtree (2009), Dunta Robinson (2004)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Jacksonville Jaguars (2011)
    Can you believe that before the 2011 draft there was talk of Gabbert going first overall? This was a real discussion. Gabbert is 5-22 as a starter with just a 53.3 completion percentage. Great hair, though.

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    No. 9 pick: Luke Kuechly, Dee Milliner

    ROCK STAR: Luke Kuechly, LB, Carolina Panthers (2012) 
    Only two years into the league, Kuechly is a bona fide rock star at the linebacker position. He has 200 tackles in two seasons, and was Defensive Rookie of the Year and then Defensive Player of the Year.

    Honorable mention: Carlos Rogers (2005), B.J. Raji (2009)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Dee Milliner, CB, New York Jets (2013)
    It might be early to declare Milliner a bust, but when you're labeled as the next island inhabitant, anything less is falling coconuts.

  • 8

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    No. 8 pick: DeAngelo Hall, Derrick Harvey

    ROCK STAR: DeAngelo Hall, CB, Atlanta Falcons (2004)
    Say what you will about Hall, and plenty have, he's produced in all three of his NFL stops. His 43 career interceptions rank fifth among active players.

    Honorable mention: Antrel Rolle (2005), Eugene Monroe (2009)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Derrick Harvey, DE, Jacksonville Jaguars (2008)
    Harvey played just three full seasons, garnering eight sacks. He never lived up to the lofty expectations which surrounded him on draft day.

  • 7

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    No. 7 pick: Adrian Peterson, Troy Williamson

    ROCK STAR: ADRIAN PETERSON, RB, Minnesota Vikings (2007)
    The most violent runner since Jim Brown, AD finished 8 yards shy in 2012 of breaking the all-time single-season rushing record. Not to mention him topping 1,250 yards rushing in six of his seven seasons, to go along with three All-Pro selections.

    Honorable mention: Joe Haden (2010), Aldon Smith (2011)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Troy Williamson, WR, Minnesota Vikings (2005)
    Williamson played just one full year in five NFL seasons, registering only 37 catches in it. He finished with four career touchdowns.

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    No. 6 pick: Vernon Davis, Vernon Gholston

    ROCK STAR: Vernon Davis, TE, San Francisco 49ers (2006) 
    Davis entered the league with the body of an Adonis, and the hype to match, and he's done nothing but live up to the immense expectations. Feared, explosive, Davis is a two-time Pro Bowler and scored 13 touchdowns two separate times in his eight-year career.

    Honorable mention: Julio Jones (2011), Kellen Winslow II (2004)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Vernon Gholston, DE, New York Jets (2008)
    One of the biggest defensive busts overall of the last decade, Gholston registered zero career sacks during his three seasons with the Jets.

  • 5

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    No. 5 pick: Patrick Peterson, Glenn Dorsey

    ROCK STAR: Patrick Peterson, CB, Arizona Cardinals (2011)
    In just three short seasons Peterson is already one of the most explosive and dynamic defensive players in football. Throw in his return-game versatility (he even played a little offense in 2013) and it's easy to see why he's in this position. Cam Newton went first overall in 2011, but an argument could be made for Peterson as the best player in that draft.

    Honorable mention: Eric Berry (2010), Sean Taylor (2004)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Glenn Dorsey, DT, Kansas City Chiefs (2008)
    Remember the hype on Dorsey coming into the 2008 draft? Much more was expected than six sacks in 78 career starts.

  • 4

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    No. 4 pick: Philip Rivers, Aaron Curry

    ROCK STAR: Philip Rivers, QB, San Diego Chargers (2004)
    Mr. Bolo Tie has been one of the grittiest quarterbacks in the league during his tenure, earning five Pro Bowl selections, having 79 wins as a starter, and throwing 221 touchdown passes. Tough, hard-nosed and always willing to do whatever it takes for his team, Rivers is the undeniable face of the Chargers.

    Honorable mention: D'Brickashaw Ferguson (2006), A.J. Green (2011)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Aaron Curry, LB, Seattle Seahawks (2009)
    Curry registered just 5.5 sacks in his first two seasons and zero in his third. He was out of the league by 2012.

  • 3

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    Pick No. 3: Larry Fitzgerald, Tyson Jackson

    ROCK STAR: Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals (2004)
    Eight Pro Bowls and six seasons of 1,000-plus receiving yards despite playing with JV quarterbacks most of his career. His 64-yard touchdown in Super Bowl XLVIII should have won the game if not for a crazy Steelers comeback, too.

    Honorable mention: Matt Ryan (2008), Joe Thomas (2007)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Tyson Jackson, DE, Kansas City Chiefs (2009)
    Pass rushers are key but with only nine career sacks in five seasons, despite 55 starts, isn't going to cut it. Plus, it's a tad too early to announce Marcel Dareus, Dion Jordan or even Trent Richardson -- all No. 3 picks -- as busts.

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    No. 2 pick: Calvin Johnson, Jason Smith

    ROCK STAR: Calvin Johnson, WR, Detroit Lions (2007)
    If you need to know why Megatron is the best second pick of the last decade, put on the tape of the 2013 Cowboys game in which he had 14 catches for 329 yards and a touchdown. Throw in four Pro Bowls and three All-Pro selections and he's headed for a Hall of Fame career.

    Honorable mention: Ndamukong Suh (2010), Von Miller (2011)

    BURGER FLIPPER: Jason Smith, T, St. Louis Rams (2009)
    Linemen selected with the second overall pick should start more than 26 games in four seasons. Even Robert Gallery made it eight years and started 103 games in that span.

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    Pick No. 1: Andrew Luck, JaMarcus Russell

    ROCK STAR: Andrew Luck, QB, Indianapolis Colts (2012)
    When you're 22-10 in two years with a nearly 2:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio, with 600-plus rushing yards and nine touchdowns, yeah, you're a rock star.

    Honorable Mention: Eli Manning (2004), Cam Newton (2011) 

    BURGER FLIPPER: JaMarcus Russell, QB Oakland Raiders (2007)
    Sure, he's the most infamous of the recent top picks, but Russell was downright bad. Seven wins, 52 percent completion percentage and only 18 touchdowns in three seasons, and he weighed more than his left tackle.

 

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Pretty stupid to include guys with 10 year careers and weigh them against guys who were only rookies or 2nd year players.  Particularly one like Milliner who missed a bunch of his rookie summer and then got injured mid-season as well.

 

Because after 1 season, Aaron Rodgers was one of their proverbial burger flippers.  

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A corner after his first year is a burger flipper but the article claims its to early to say anything about a RB averaging 3 yards a carry after 2 years.

 

Yeah, you read my mind on that one.  Not sure it would be possible to come up with two more idiotically contradictory conclusions than that nonsense.

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So Josh Freeman was the best 17th pick over the last 10 years?

 

Because Sanchez was in that draft, and we extended Sanchez's contract, the Bucs look smart by comparison.  But a bunch of Mark's friends showed up for his workout and no one showed up for Freeman's, so he's got that going for him.

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Because Sanchez was in that draft, and we extended Sanchez's contract, the Bucs look smart by comparison.  But a bunch of Mark's friends showed up for his workout and no one showed up for Freeman's, so he's got that going for him.

 

Not what I was getting at.

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Before the wheels inexplicably fell off in 2013, Freeman was a big-time NFL quarterback with a 10-win and 4,000-yard season under his belt. He looked on his way to becoming one of the bright young stars in the league. We'll see if he can regain that shine.

 

Are you ******* kidding me? Freeman's one good year was against arguably the weakest schedule in NFL history. 

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Jet-centric?

 

11 former Jets listed as Rockers, Flippers or Honorable Mentions. I think that qualifies

 

Wilkerson

Mangold

Cromartie

Holmes

Revis

Richardson

Maybin

Milliner

Gholston

Ferguson

Smith

 

That's a lot 

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11 former Jets listed as Rockers, Flippers or Honorable Mentions. I think that qualifies

Wilkerson

Mangold

Cromartie

Holmes

Revis

Richardson

Maybin

Milliner

Gholston

Ferguson

Smith

That's a lot

Holmes, Cro, J. Smith n Maybin were not drafted by Jets. That leaves us with 7 players listed out of 128 (4*32). Not really "Jet-Centric".

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Nick Mangold never missed a start? I guess he didn't watch that magical night in Baltimore when Mark Sanchez's career as a Jet took a turn for the worse and never got back on track (not that it was ever on track).

I think he meant to say "Mangold hasn't missed a start in the games he has started"...which is true for all players.

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