RSJ Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Dan Leberfeld was on and said that KC is not the only team willing to part with compensation for Herm Edwards. Also 660 just had a reporter on from KC (forget his name) who said that Peterson plans on making a MAJOR run at Edwards and is willing to part with players, picks and cash to get him and it will be a very nice package. But that Herm is his number one guy and Peterson will be making a push in the next day or two. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thanks for posting this. I had started taking the Patriots front office for granted. No way would I have ever imagined that there would be multiple NFL Organizations stupid enough to part with picks in exchange for a below average head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smizzy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Please let this happen. Please. Ill switch religions if need be,just make this happen. Getting rid of herm would be addition by subtraction. getting picks in return would be the ultimate gift to Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well you can blast Herm if you want but they have been competitive most of his time here. People say that isn't important. But this is the Jets we are talking about... My Point? If they get rid of him they better have a real good PLAN B lined up. Not a search process. Someone that is ready to sign on the dotted line. Otherwise this franchise could take YET another step backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well you can blast Herm if you want but they have been competitive most of his time here. People say that isn't important. But this is the Jets we are talking about... My Point? If they get rid of him they better have a real good PLAN B lined up. Not a search process. Someone that is ready to sign on the dotted line. Otherwise this franchise could take YET another step backwards. There is no chance in hell this team regresses without Herm at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well you can blast Herm if you want but they have been competitive most of his time here. People say that isn't important. But this is the Jets we are talking about... My Point? If they get rid of him they better have a real good PLAN B lined up. Not a search process. Someone that is ready to sign on the dotted line. Otherwise this franchise could take YET another step backwards. one man's trash is another man's treasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 There is no chance in hell this team regresses without Herm at the helm. I keep forgetting that Herm inherited the Lombardi Packers. He was a kick away from the Championship last year. He lost both QBs this year. I am not saying he is without fault. He will need GREAT coordinators to win. He will have to delegate a lot. BUT...we could do much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 The Jets will have a lot of picks if they can get a 2nd and a 3rd. With the likely 4 comp picks coming and a possible Abe trade Bradway can now fill all of our special teams needs on day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well you can blast Herm if you want but they have been competitive most of his time here. People say that isn't important. But this is the Jets we are talking about... My Point? If they get rid of him they better have a real good PLAN B lined up. Not a search process. Someone that is ready to sign on the dotted line. Otherwise this franchise could take YET another step backwards. max - the only problem with that plan is that woody would be saddling the new GM with a HC bradway selected. the only way to do this is by firing bradway and trading hermy for a bag of balls. then let the next gm pick his HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 I keep forgetting that Herm inherited the Lombardi Packers. He was a kick away from the Championship last year. He lost both QBs this year. I am not saying he is without fault. He will need GREAT coordinators to win. He will have to delegate a lot. BUT...we could do much worse. There is no doubt the Jets could do worse but they could do better too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Kotite is available. What are they waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm in KC? Can you imagine the BBQ's? this is a match made in heaven. Herm must go,if not for the jets fans ...do it for the BBQ!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm in KC? Can you imagine the BBQ's? this is a match made in heaven. Herm must go,if not for the jets fans ...do it for the BBQ!! Quick call my broker - I need to buy some KC Masterpiece stock immediatly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Quick call my broker - I need to buy some KC Masterpiece stock immediatly! Herm for a draft pick would be a KC MASTERPIECE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Dan Leberfeld was on and said that KC is not the only team willing to part with compensation for Herm Edwards. Also 660 just had a reporter on from KC (forget his name) who said that Peterson plans on making a MAJOR run at Edwards and is willing to part with players, picks and cash to get him and it will be a very nice package. But that Herm is his number one guy and Peterson will be making a push in the next day or two. Amazing. Snap! A bidding war? That's freakin great! The jets could make a huge score out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 This would be unreal. Am I dreaming??? Anyways, if we can somehow land a 2nd and 3rd rd pick for Herm, we could have... 6 1st day draft choices!! Our original 1st, 2nd and 3rd. 1 comp 3rd rd pick 2 1st day picks for Herm And we could have 7 1st day picks if we trade down a couple spots and pick Lendale White, who might shoot up the draft board, I'd take him at 4th overall because I think other teams in the 5-11 range will covet a running back. Teams like the Cardinals and 49ers would scoop him up if he is still on the board. I mean, if Lendale is your guy, and you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Wouldn't it be nice to get say...Jared Allen & a 3rd round pick for Hermie? Allen could replace Abe in a second. Allen's NFL stats: (He's going into only his 3rd year in 06!) 2004: 15 games - 31 total tackles (29 solo), 9 sacks 2005: 16 games - 55 tackles (48 solo), 11 sacks, 7 forced fumbles (2 recovered), 5 passes defended Lets compare those to Abe's last 2 years: 2004: 12 games - 48 total tackles (33 solo), 9.5 sacks, 3 forced fumbles (1 recovered), 2 passes defended 2005: 16 games - 58 tackles (44 solo), 10.5 sacks, 6 forced fumbles ( 1 recovered), 1 pass defended Gotta give Allen a bit of a break for his rookie year compared to Abe's 5th year, but, the similarities are there. They both can rush the QB and are strip sackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 6 1st day draft choices!! Our original 1st, 2nd and 3rd. 1 comp 3rd rd pick 2 1st day picks for Herm Dude, the Jets are $28 million OVER the salary cap. How the hell do you think they will be able to sign all those draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I'm all for getting picks for Herm (if that can be done)...what I have a problem with is the braintrust (or lack there of) making these draft picks. This would be a golden opportunity for us because things like this don't happen often. We need someone that can not only pick the no brainers in the draft, but the diamonds in the rough. Jimmy Johnson was good at that...finding talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I personally would like Herm to stay, but if he even hints he wants to leave, set up the compensation agreement, and let him talk. I want a 1st and a 3rd, as a minimum. or a player who is a pass rusher, and a high day 1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well you can blast Herm if you want but they have been competitive most of his time here. People say that isn't important. But this is the Jets we are talking about... My Point? If they get rid of him they better have a real good PLAN B lined up. Not a search process. Someone that is ready to sign on the dotted line. Otherwise this franchise could take YET another step backwards. Well, that's one way of looking at it. Here's another: Herm inherited a a good team and in 5 seasons, ran them into the ground, and destroyed our 64 million dollar franchise QB; the team is in cap hell, and will suck for at least another year, if not two (the duration of his remaining contract). The shelf life called a window of opportunity was squandered under Herm. Now he has a pre-packaged team all good to go, in KC. Gift wrapped for him by Petersen and Vermeil. Maybe he can get it right the second time around. I doubt it. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE *SS ON THE WAY OUT! And Woody? This is what you get for letting the NFL handpick you a HC. How does it feel? Everybody is laughing at you Woody. You could have cleaned house in 2003, but no. You had to be Mr. Nice guy. This must be Herm's way of saying "thanks". What a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Well, that's one way of looking at it. Here's another: Herm inherited a a good team and in 5 seasons, ran them into the ground, and destroyed our 64 million dollar franchise QB; the team is in cap hell, and will suck for at least another year, if not two (the duration of his remaining contract). The shelf life called a window of opportunity was squandered under Herm. Now he has a pre-packaged team all good to go, in KC. Gift wrapped for him by Petersen and Vermeil. Maybe he can get it right the second time around. I doubt it. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE *SS ON THE WAY OUT! And Woody? This is what you get for letting the NFL handpick you a HC. How does it feel? Everybody is laughing at you Woody. You could have cleaned house in 2003, but no. You had to be Mr. Nice guy. This must be Herm's way of saying "thanks". What a guy. "Mr. Nice Guy" may nix the KC deal if there is one...I'm all for taking Woody out to the woodshed if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Woody is a moron. I wouldn't be surprised if Herm turns this around, and gains all the leverage (when Woody clearly has it all, now) and milks Woody out of a contract extension, and a raise. I still think that's what will happen. If I was the owner of the Jets, here's what I would do to stick it right up Herm's *ss for trying to play me for a sucker twice: If Al Davis was interested in Herm, I would do everything I could to make a deal with Oakland happen. Imagine Herm trying to work Al Davis like he does Woody? And the Raiders are a bigger mess than the Jets are. Here ya go, Herm! Go work your magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 amazing how teams are willing to part with money, players & draft picks for Herm but the consensus here is that Herm sucks...guess all of you know better then the football people...my bad, what was I thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 amazing how teams are willing to part with money, players & draft picks for Herm but the consensus here is that Herm sucks...guess all of you know better then the football people...my bad, what was I thinking 13-This is the farm system for future owners of the NFL. Every one of is the smarter than 75% of the current owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBeans Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 amazing how teams are willing to part with money, players & draft picks for Herm but the consensus here is that Herm sucks...guess all of you know better then the football people...my bad, what was I thinking Has this team progressed, regressed, or stayed about the same in the 5 years Herm has been coaching? Just wondering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 amazing how teams are willing to part with money, players & draft picks for Herm but the consensus here is that Herm sucks...guess all of you know better then the football people...my bad, what was I thinking Peterson and Herm are boys. I don't see any other team wanting permission to speak to Herm. Houston-Minnesota-St.Louis-New Orleans. Herm is a master motivator. But a sh*t coach. As I said to JetMo & Max on Sunday at the game, he'd make a hell of a college coach, but he's a decent at best NFL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Has this team progressed, regressed, or stayed about the same in the 5 years Herm has been coaching? Just wondering.... Truthfully-The team is better (playoffs) in 3 of the 5 years than what he inherited. NO team increases wins every year over the course of 5 years. That is impossible. Does that mean that I am lobbying for him to stay? No. Does that mean that I think he is a GREAT coach? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 the demand for Herm is sky high across the league and Jets fans are RUSHING to meet that demand. Whatever. I love draft picks as much as or more than the next guy but cmon if the entire league wants Herm maybe he's not the brain dead moron everyone thinks he is. Sad to say it but Herm is actually one of the Jets few strong points these days. Lose him and we are a franchise without identity. You all may HATE Herm but at least he is an identity. At least he's a personality. When i turn on the NFL network and see "in their words: Herman Edwards" we can all take it to the bank that the next coach will not have the same charisma, the same leadership, the same personality. And the cynics among you will respond: great! get rid of his personable butt as soon as possible! That's a sucker bet to me. NFL teams like the Chiefs don't make these decisions based on BS. It's like the song goes you don't know what you've got until it's gone. ps the fans crap on 3 out of 5 years well in the 10 years prior to herm they made the playoffs once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 the demand for Herm is sky high across the league and Jets fans are RUSHING to meet that demand. Whatever. I love draft picks as much as or more than the next guy but cmon if the entire league wants Herm maybe he's not the brain dead moron everyone thinks he is. Sad to say it but Herm is actually one of the Jets few strong points these days. Lose him and we are a franchise without identity. You all may HATE Herm but at least he is an identity. At least he's a personality. When i turn on the NFL network and see "in their words: Herman Edwards" we can all take it to the bank that the next coach will not have the same charisma, the same leadership, the same personality. And the cynics among you will respond: great! get rid of his personable butt as soon as possible! That's a sucker bet to me. NFL teams like the Chiefs don't make these decisions based on BS. It's like the song goes you don't know what you've got until it's gone. ps the fans crap on 3 out of 5 years well in the 10 years prior to herm they made the playoffs once. Oh please. Herman Edwards is all hype, no substance. The man is the product of a brilliant media campaign, orchestrated since the moment he got here. His marketability is a result of that. He has "personality"? Well, that settle's it then: Here's 20 million over 5 years. Herm is doing what he has always done; he's doing whats best for Herm. He has two years left on his contract here, with a dead arm franchise QB. His marketability will only deteriorate (rapidly) if he stays. Herm is getting while the getting is good. Good luck finding an 0-Coordinator and a D-Coordinator, Herm. I'm sure everybody is lining up to take a turn to get thrown under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herman Edwards is all hype, no substance. The man is the product of a brilliant media campaign, orchestrated since the moment he got here. The fans may not believe in Herm but the players and the league obviously do. that's all the matters. The fact that another team is willing to go through all this to try and get a man currently under contract (a relatively cheap bottom 1/3rd of the league contract by the way) proves he doesn't suck. It's empirical proof. No one will make a deal or give up a draft pick for a coach who sucks. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 The fans may not believe in Herm but the players and the league obviously do. that's all the matters. I agree, that's all that matters. And yet, watch as Herm and his media propagandists (Cannizzaro et al) blame "the fans". Bit, you're right, all that matters is what Woody thinks of Herm. And as we all know, Woody thinks the world of Herm. This must be Herm's way of saying "thanks". Whatever. Look, it's time for a change. Herm wants out, or he wants the Jets to match whaterver the Chiefs offer. I think he knows, he's at a crossroads: He's never going to be able to cash in any better than he can right now. I gotta hand it to him and his agent- Show me another HC in the history of the NFL, coming off a 4-12 season, being offered $20 mil for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 The fans may not believe in Herm but the players and the league obviously do. that's all the matters. The fact that another team is willing to go through all this to try and get a man currently under contract (a relatively cheap bottom 1/3rd of the league contract by the way) proves he doesn't suck. It's empirical proof. No one will make a deal or give up a draft pick for a coach who sucks. Period. Thats what I was saying, why would any team give up anything to a coach under contract if that said coach was as bad as all of you say? I can see it now: HERM GOES TO KC AND THE JETS HIRE JIM HASSLETT... No Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thats what I was saying, why would any team give up anything to a coach under contract if that said coach was as bad as all of you say? I can see it now: HERM GOES TO KC AND THE JETS HIRE JIM HASSLETT... No Thanx Uhh... this just in: Herm's not exactly digging his heels in, begging to stay your HC. He exhausted the shelf life on all the veterans he inherited, ran the team into the ground, and destroyed our 64 million dollar franchise QB. Watch that greasy eel slide out the door, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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