NYJetsVets91 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 A, B, C, D, or F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 NFL network guys both gave it an A I predict cimini and mehta will say C "because johnny" I voted B a need draft where he drafted too many corners and WR's. he will have to cut at least 2 probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 C. Decent early rounds. Poor mid rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 I saw that, and I was really surprised, although the lowest grade they gave any team was a B-... so there's that. I was torn between B and C. I ended up giving a C just because there were too many reach picks... I was really excited after Pryor and Amaro, ever since then the only pick I really liked was Dozier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 -5 for Rex giving away the big Boyd movie, amirite?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah not really a fan of Boyd... I'd rather have had Brett Smith in round 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisYearsModel Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I voted C. Not that I or most anyone else up here knows squat. I would have voted higher if they had used picks to move up and get a better WR instead of taking 3 of questionable ability later. Of course, if one of them turns out to be Jerry Rice II............................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 If Bridgewater and Manziel start winning playoff games, the grade falls somewhere between F and Hiroshima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 If Bridgewater and Manziel start winning playoff games, the grade falls somewhere between F and Hiroshima Bridgewater hurt slightly, but Geno got this and trading Bridgewater later wouldn't beat an 18 pick now. Thats actually how I rationalized it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 If Bridgewater and Manziel start winning playoff games, the grade falls somewhere between F and Hiroshima That. But also there are guys that we passed on in every round 3-5 who were graded higher. The players we took better pan out because if Turner or Ellington are good and our selections aren't Idzik deserves to have his job thrown into question. He really went out on a limb with a bunch of these picks in a draft where the Jets had a huge opportunity to build a strong base for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangisGreen Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I say a solid B. The only pick I really did not like was Mcdougle in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 A+++ The extra two pluses were for the lulz provided on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 A+++ The extra two pluses were for the lulz provided on this forum. this forum is full of lulz, but what is your real grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't grade drafts before the selected players play a full season, but i'd give this thread a solid C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 this forum is full of lulz, but what is your real grade? I don't grade drafts after a day. It's like marking an exam based on handwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It was promising at the top. But as we got to the middle its was downright nasty and defies any shred of football common sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 This draft gets a check minus in accepts correction and works well with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That. But also there are guys that we passed on in every round 3-5 who were graded higher. The players we took better pan out because if Turner or Ellington are good and our selections aren't Idzik deserves to have his job thrown into question. He really went out on a limb with a bunch of these picks in a draft where the Jets had a huge opportunity to build a strong base for the future. Because I'm so traumatized by the Tannenbaum Era, I'm actually taking it as a positive that we didn't draft "popular" names that draftniks liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 in the back of my mind, a nasty voice keeps whispering...."1998" I think pryor and amaro spare us that humiliation, but after that this draft has a spam quality to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't grade drafts after a day. It's like marking an exam based on handwriting. Fair enough... If you took an English exam it could be the most important part. I'm obviously basing it off of film, scout evaluations, college stats, etc. Only thing we have to go off of right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 If Bridgewater and Manziel start winning playoff games, the grade falls somewhere between F and Hiroshima Yep I never could have passed on Manziei. Even if he fails he was worth the shot. Solid B as we took multiple DB's and WR's hoping something sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I went with D. There was way to many reaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Solid A. Willing to reconsider in three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 If Bridgewater and Manziel start winning playoff games, the grade falls somewhere between F and Hiroshima Sanchez won playoff games and look where that got us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 I went with D. There was way to many reaches. This was my main reason to downgrade as well... The first two picks made me stay with a C though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Because I'm so traumatized by the Tannenbaum Era, I'm actually taking it as a positive that we didn't draft "popular" names that draftniks liked. Take it easy SAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 The 12 picks thing is misleading. Half of them in the last 3 rounds. What matters is what we did in 1-4. Most teams get 7 picks if they are lucky. We had 6 before round 5. Pryor and Amaro start immediately. I don't know what to make of McDougle, Saunders and Evans... I do know that being able to defend the TE and the slot WR has been a major problem for us over the years, and I think Pryor and McDougle could impact that. The scouting reports I've seen for the 2 WRs make it sound like Evans is a good fit for WCO depth and Saunders is a situational guy that can be used creatively, and could potentially become a fixture in certain situations. Dunno. I like that these weren't the guys that NFL.com rated however, because as the draft went down MOST of those guys were passed on by MOST of the teams in the league. There's a definite gap between scouting depts and sports media. I think the things that bothered me in this draft were 1.) taking McDougle over Gabe Jackson, 2.) not getting Tom Savage and 3.) taking Saunders over Ellington For the most part, I don't know enough to dig my heels in and lay down the drama like nothing was done right. The most promising thing I'm taking away from the draft right now is that we used those 12 picks to attack weaknesses, without solely drafting for need. We threw picks at positions (WR, LB and CB) that have definite room for improvement, competition and roster turnover. My hope is that we re-invent both position groups, and that is what it looks like the philosophy was... improve the position group, rather than just "get a guy". There's value in that way of thinking, it facilitates preparation for a strong "next man up" culture. Rather than hinging all of your hopes on a couple key guys, you have depth and contributions from top to bottom. I think we're also seeing a little of what this front office values in players - if we remember back to Tanny's "Mangini guy" mantra - it's similar here, they have a "type" and the thing we know the least about is how personality and attitude is affecting their board. I do know this... speed and physicality seems to be a big priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 The Pryor and Amaro tandem make it a B alone. Everyone bitching and moaning is losing site that they still need to, you know, see them play before you jump off a cliff. People in an up roar about the mid round picks are losing sight of the probability of those players hitting. It's just as likely the name you love in those rounds are out of the league in 3 years and the name you've never heard is still playing. Hopefully they hit on 1 or 2 of those and they net 4 starters and some depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I went with D. There was way to many reaches. Based on what? Just curious, but in order to evaluate what is a reach and what isn't, you have to either assume the whole league is drafting based on mocks from ESPN writers... or that NY Mick has access to the rest of the league's boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 The Pryor and Amaro tandem make it a B alone. Everyone bitching and moaning is losing site that they still need to, you know, see them play before you jump off a cliff. People in an up roar about the mid round picks are losing sight of the probability of those players hitting. It's just as likely the name you love in those rounds are out of the league in 3 years and the name you've never heard is still playing. Hopefully they hit on 1 or 2 of those and they net 4 starters and some depth. Remember Tanny drafts when he'd make 4 picks total, and it would include a 1st round bust, and 3 players the fans thought he should take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Based on what? Just curious, but in order to evaluate what is a reach and what isn't, you have to either assume the whole league is drafting based on mocks from ESPN writers... or that NY Mick has access to the rest of the league's boards. I don't really see how a mid round pick can be considered a reach. After the first 40-50, everyone has a different board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't really see how a mid round pick can be considered a reach. After the first 40-50, everyone has a different board Exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Remember Tanny drafts when he'd make 4 picks total, and it would include a 1st round bust, and 3 players the fans thought he should take? Maybe by sheer numbers they get lucky and land a few gems. It's definitely weird having so many picks and not trading a round like mad men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Maybe by sheer numbers they get lucky and land a few gems. It's definitely weird having so many picks and not trading a round like mad men. I like what Idzik did. We still need a lot of turnover on this roster, so giving up 3rd and 4th rounders is dumb. Most of the trade-able picks had 5th, 6th and 7th round value. They aren't going to get you much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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