Green Jets & Ham Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Could be Bears DC Ron Rivera according to Mike & Mike {ESPN Radio} ... Greenberg is a Jet fan and he says the Jets would move on Rivera Just took this off the official Bears website Having stood in Ron Rivera's shoes two years ago, Lovie Smith is vowing to do whatever he can to help his defensive coordinator land an NFL head-coaching job. The St. Louis Rams have already sought permission to speak with Rivera about their vacant head-coaching position and other teams could follow. Ron Rivera coordinated a defense that allowed the fewest points in the NFL this season. Because the Bears have a first-round bye in the playoffs, NFL teams are permitted to interview Rivera once in Chicago this week. However, Rivera cannot be hired by another club or participate in a follow-up interview until after the Bears are finished with the playoffs. Smith took advantage of that window in 2003 when he was defensive coordinator of the Rams, interviewing with the Falcons, Giants and Bears before ultimately being hired by Chicago after St. Louis lost its playoff opener to the Panthers. "I was in the exact same situation as he's in right now and (Rams head coach) Mike Martz did a great job of helping me," Smith said. "One of his goals was to help me get a head football coaching job and he was able to do that. I'm going to do everything I possibly can to help Ron. "Ron has done a great job for us here. He deserves his opportunity to run his own team. This is the ideal week to (interview with prospective employers). It's a bye week for us and I've told Ron whatever he needs to do, just let me know what I can do to help." In addition to the Rams, the Chiefs, Lions, Packers, Saints, Texans and Vikings are all searching for new head coaches. "If you were looking for a head football coach right now, wouldn't you want to contact him?" Smith said. "I think quite a few of the teams will contact him this week." Rivera is in his second year as Bears defensive coordinator. He played nine seasons as a linebacker in Chicago from 1984-92, winning a Super Bowl ring with the famed 1985 team. Ron Rivera feels that he's matured as a coach in the two seasons he's worked for Lovie Smith. Rivera spent two seasons as a quality control coach with the Bears in 1997-98 before serving as Eagles linebackers coach for five years. Having coordinated one of the league's top defenses under Smith, Rivera feels that he's ready to become an NFL head coach. "The last couple years have been a great growing experience for me," Rivera said. "I'm in a situation right now where I think I've matured as a coach and most certainly would look forward to an opportunity. "If something like that were to come up, I most certainly would look at it because that is my ultimate goal." In Rivera's first season as coordinator in 2004, the Bears defense set a team record with six touchdowns, led the NFL in third-down efficiency and topped the NFC in red-zone percentage. In 2005, the Bears allowed a league-low 202 points and finished second in overall defense. "I think the r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I heard Smith on NFL Network last night and he was just glowing about Rivera and what he wants to do for him in getting a HC job. It was actually refreshing and Smith came off really well. I don't know a lot about him, but it might be a good place to start. It is a real shame that due to all of this distraction, Bradway is practically going to skate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyfromLI Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm seemed really coy about his future with the Jets in the interviews I saw. Do you really think he will leave for KC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 I heard Smith on NFL Network last night and he was just glowing about Rivera and what he wants to do for him in getting a HC job. It was actually refreshing and Smith came off really well. I don't know a lot about him, but it might be a good place to start. It is a real shame that due to all of this distraction, Bradway is practically going to skate Herm is not getting fired either, SD ... KC is reportedly prepared to pay him 20 million over five years ... I say GOD BLESS HIM so long as we get back at least a 1st RD Pick in the deal And if that happens, Rivera should be the primary target because he's a defensive mastermind and right now our defense is much further along then our offense, so we'll probably have to win with defense for the time being if we are going to win at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 if memory serves wasn't Rivera one of the finalists for Donnie's current position? Here's my question if there are rumors flying all over the league about other teams raiding our coaching staff - maybe just maybe they don't suck as bad as Jets fans think? What says more to me 10000 blowhards logging on to a message board to talk about how much they hate Donnie Henderson/Herm Edwards or multiple NFL teams that have these men on their short lists of possible coaching solutions. The fans are just plain wrong. Mark my words if the Jets let Herm get away we will all regret it in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm seemed really coy about his future with the Jets in the interviews I saw. Do you really think he will leave for KC? Herm is being especially coy. During the Sunday Press Conference, when the KC thing was brought up again, rather than emphasizing his point and looking straight out at the reporters, he darted his head down and avoided eye contact. Subtle point, I know. But if you watch Edwards enough, when he is looking to make a point, he makes direct eye contact and emphasizes a point. It was odd for him. It may be nothing, who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 if memory serves wasn't Rivera one of the finalists for Donnie's current position? Here's my question if there are rumors flying all over the league about other teams raiding our coaching staff - maybe just maybe they don't suck as bad as Jets fans think? What says more to me 10000 blowhards logging on to a message board to talk about how much they hate Donnie Henderson/Herm Edwards or multiple NFL teams that have these men on their short lists of possible coaching solutions. The fans are just plain wrong. Mark my words if the Jets let Herm get away we will all regret it in the future. Bit, I know you think highly of Herm, and that's prefectly fine, but do you really believe it would be a disaster if we wind up with Ron Rivera AND a 1st RD Pick {#20 Overall}, in addition to our own #4 Overall in this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm is a good coach. He should not be let go. He is not perfect, no coach not named Mumbles is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm is a good coach. He should not be let go. He is not perfect, no coach not named Mumbles is. EXACTLY Max, and if we can just get a push with Ron Rivera that 1st RD Pick would really come in handy Anything more than a push is Gravy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Bit, I know you think highly of Herm, and that's prefectly fine, but do you really believe it would be a disaster if we wind up with Ron Rivera AND a 1st RD Pick {#20 Overall}, in addition to our own #4 Overall in this draft? Ham I love draft picks as much as or more than the next man but also we have to know that the HC market is extremely scarce, and the Jets are a franchise without much identity, sans Herman Edwards. He's the face of the franchise for better or worse, you don't find guys like that every day, which is why some team would be willing to give up picks in the first place (i am not sure about the legality of that move). We could get another draft pick but lose the identity of the franchise that doesn't sound like a good trade to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 He's the face of the franchise for better or worse, you don't find guys like that every day, which is why some team would be willing to give up picks in the first place (i am not sure about the legality of that move). We could get another draft pick but lose the identity of the franchise that doesn't sound like a good trade to me. MR. PERSONALITY: The song and dance man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 if memory serves wasn't Rivera one of the finalists for Donnie's current position? Here's my question if there are rumors flying all over the league about other teams raiding our coaching staff - maybe just maybe they don't suck as bad as Jets fans think? What says more to me 10000 blowhards logging on to a message board to talk about how much they hate Donnie Henderson/Herm Edwards or multiple NFL teams that have these men on their short lists of possible coaching solutions. The fans are just plain wrong. Mark my words if the Jets let Herm get away we will all regret it in the future. Herm has a worse record than Joe Walton as a Jet HC maybe it's time to get off of his jock. Herm is in the bottom 1/3 of NFL coaches. Herm's coaching style is best suited to move every few years. at some point his preaching falls on deaf ears. and then what are you left with? it sure as hell isn't football knowledge. it's time for herm to move on, that's not to say he won't be successful somewhere else, just don't expect him to make gameday decisions or gameplans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I would trade Herm for a first rd pick in a HEARTBEAT.. we could have 3 picks within the first 32 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's not trading picks When you sign a guy under contract you are forced to give compensation I'm not so sure anymore I want Herman out though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 why would any team try to head hunt a coach that's a loser? are the chiefs stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 why would any team try to head hunt a coach that's a loser? are the chiefs stupid? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Woody Johnson is Richie Rich. He doesn't know what he's doing with the team. Terry Badway is a moron. Herm Edwards is soft and incompetent and doesn't know anything about football. Jay Cross is a woman. Mike Heimerdinger blows. Hi I post at Jetnation.com and everyone involved in the Jets organization is a moron and I know more than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 why would any team try to head hunt a coach that's a loser? are the chiefs stupid? how quickly you forget rich kotite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hi I post at Jetnation.com and everyone involved in the Jets organization is a moron and I know more than them. It's more than that, everyone in the NFL is a moron! I mean the Chiefs must be morons for wanting to give Herm a big contract! the Saints must be morons for wanting Donnie Henderson! the league must be morons for hyping Herm Edwards every chance they get! Everyone is stupid except for jets fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's more than that, everyone in the NFL is a moron! I mean the Chiefs must be morons for wanting to give Herm a big contract! the Saints must be morons for wanting Donnie Henderson! the league must be morons for hyping Herm Edwards every chance they get! Everyone is stupid except for jets fans! More! Everyone is stupid except for Jets fans at jetnation.com! JetMoses for GM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 if memory serves wasn't Rivera one of the finalists for Donnie's current position? Here's my question if there are rumors flying all over the league about other teams raiding our coaching staff - maybe just maybe they don't suck as bad as Jets fans think? What says more to me 10000 blowhards logging on to a message board to talk about how much they hate Donnie Henderson/Herm Edwards or multiple NFL teams that have these men on their short lists of possible coaching solutions. The fans are just plain wrong. Mark my words if the Jets let Herm get away we will all regret it in the future. Just like Cottrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i have said a million times,, this is a ploy by friends peterson/vermeil to help herm get a extension,,, al saunders is a LOCK for the KC job,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's more than that, everyone in the NFL is a moron! I mean the Chiefs must be morons for wanting to give Herm a big contract! the Saints must be morons for wanting Donnie Henderson! the league must be morons for hyping Herm Edwards every chance they get! Everyone is stupid except for jets fans! Bitonti - what would the jets record have been this year if you replaced herm with an average high school coach? it certainly could not have been much worse, in fact i would say it probably would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Bitonti - what would the jets record have been this year if you replaced herm with an average high school coach? it certainly could not have been much worse, in fact i would say it probably would have been better. This is the most intelligent post I've ever read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 This is the most intelligent post I've ever read are you telling me that rich kotite couldn't have coached this team to a win at home vs. the hapless saints? they were the worst team in the NFL and they beat the jets at home. nice job herm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Rich Kotite is not an average HIGH SCHOOL coach. And no, he wouldn't have won that game either. Head Coaches don't throw blocks, kick field goals, or run pass patterns, last time I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Coach D'Amato - Brings veteran presence, experience and can bring together the worst of locker rooms. Jimmy McGintry - Along with veteran presence, has proven that he can win with even the worst of players. Bud Kilmer - A hardliner. An ideal candidate to bring discipline back to the locker room. Coach Sam Winters -Willing to do what it takes to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 how about a coach with success at both the high school AND college level: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Rich Kotite is not an average HIGH SCHOOL coach. And no, he wouldn't have won that game either. Head Coaches don't throw blocks, kick field goals, or run pass patterns, last time I checked. no they COACH the players who throw blocks, kick field goals, or run pass patterns. and they decide what players START who throw blocks, kick field goals, or run pass patterns. If all we wanted was a motivator we could save a fortune by bringing in Tony Robbins for a hour every Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiJet Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Ham I read the article too, and Bears fans sound bittersweet with the rumors. Rivera is one of our own. He was instrumental in the Bears becoming a winner, after years of being terrible, and he has had a big hand in the team rebounding. I, for one, would hate to see him leave, but would love the idea of him coming to NY, to turn things around. Rivera will do well no matter where he goes. He reminds me of another former Bear, Jeff Fisher. Both worked in the 46, have experience coaching it, and are very prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 As far as Rivera goes I would love to get this guy. Guys like Bit forget the Herschel Walker trade, Rich Kotite getting hired after a 0-7 finish, Carl Peterson not being able to get enough talent to get a HOF'er like Dick Vermiel to the playoffs, the fact that Chrebet went undrafted, or Portis lasting until the second round. No Bit not everyone in an NFL front office knows wtf they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Is Fisher available? Is his contract up at Tennessee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I'd hire Savage as GM and Rivera or Fisher as Head Coach if Fisher was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyfromLI Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 no they COACH the players who throw blocks, kick field goals, or run pass patterns. and they decide what players START who throw blocks, kick field goals, or run pass patterns. If all we wanted was a motivator we could save a fortune by bringing in Tony Robbins for a hour every Sunday. Tony Robbins sounds like the way to go. Herm's strategy of wanting to hang on and stay in the game til the 4th quarter and hope for the best makes me want to vomit. This team needs someone who wants to run up the score, throw the ball north and south and blow teams out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Herm is a good coach. He should not be let go. He is not perfect, no coach not named Mumbles is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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