nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think Coz does this around this time every year...but because it's June 10 and we're all bored as hell, here is my list. This was a LOT more fun to do with this roster than last year's! Again, the list is final. 1. Muhammad Wilkerson, DE 2. Nick Mangold, C 3. Sheldon Richardson, DE 4. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT 5. Damon Harrison, DT 6. Eric Decker, WR 7. David Harris, LB 8. Nick Folk, K --- KICKERS!!! 9. Jeremy Kerley, WR 10. Chris Ivory, RB 11. Dmitri Patterson, CB 12. Geno Smith, QB 13. Dee Milliner, CB 14. Willie Colon, G 15. Quinton Coples, OLB 16. Michael Vick, QB 17. Leger Douzable and Kenrick Ellis, DT --- same dude, right? 18. Demario Davis, LB 19. Chris Johnson, RB 20. Bilal Powell, RB Just missed: Dawan Landry, Calvin Pace, Breno Giacomini. A few notes... - With respect to the top 5, I couldn't care less what PFF says. That's how I see 'em. - Pretty evident to see a bit of Idzik roster building, as a lot of these guys wouldn't have been on last year's edition. - No rookies allowed on this list, but I could easily see both of our top 2 picks this year in the top 10 next year. - Go Jets - The list is final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 But this list isn't final, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 But this list isn't final, right? Is it final for today or is it final through July or what? Maybe it's final like the final score of a wildcard game even though on the season it's really only a semi-final of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Guys --- this list, flawed as it may be, is final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 kenrick ellis and douz are the same dude? Wha?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 When your QB is number 12- Houston we have a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 kenrick ellis and douz are the same dude? Wha?? You really are a pile of urine soaked blankets, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 lol @ geno rated higher than vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 lol @ geno rated higher than vick If this was a top rated QBs from his one and only year of playing football, he'd be 39th out of 41, but when a Jet fan makes a list, Geno Smith magically becomes almost mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think Coz does this around this time every year...but because it's June 10 and we're all bored as hell, here is my list. This was a LOT more fun to do with this roster than last year's! Again, the list is final. 1. Muhammad Wilkerson, DE 2. Nick Mangold, C 3. Sheldon Richardson, DE 4. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT 5. Damon Harrison, DT 6. Eric Decker, WR 7. David Harris, LB 8. Nick Folk, K --- KICKERS!!! 9. Jeremy Kerley, WR 10. Chris Ivory, RB 11. Dmitri Patterson, CB 12. Geno Smith, QB 13. Dee Milliner, CB 14. Willie Colon, G 15. Quinton Coples, OLB 16. Michael Vick, QB 17. Leger Douzable and Kenrick Ellis, DT --- same dude, right? 18. Demario Davis, LB 19. Chris Johnson, RB 20. Bilal Powell, RB Just missed: Dawan Landry, Calvin Pace, Breno Giacomini. A few notes... - With respect to the top 5, I couldn't care less what PFF says. That's how I see 'em. - Pretty evident to see a bit of Idzik roster building, as a lot of these guys wouldn't have been on last year's edition. - No rookies allowed on this list, but I could easily see both of our top 2 picks this year in the top 10 next year. - Go Jets - The list is final Thanks, Idzik! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I've gone through the list at least 9 times hoping you missed someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 If this was a top rated QBs from his one and only year of playing football, he'd be 39th out of 41, but when a Jet fan makes a list, Geno Smith magically becomes almost mediocre. a jet fan is sitting in a lifeboat having just barely made it off the titanic. everyone is in shock and crying over their lost loved ones. the jets fan stands up and says, "come on guys, but wasn't the food amazing?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 How in the world does Bilal Powell make this list but arguably the best SAM LB in all of football with 10 sacks last year "just missed the list"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 How in the world does Bilal Powell make this list but arguably the best SAM LB in all of football with 10 sacks last year "just missed the list"? Bowell deserves it more than half those names but Pace should be in there. Agreed. Remove the kicker put Pace in there. He's a ******* kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Remove Dimtri Patterson and place Kyle Wilson. Wilson is one of the best nickel corners in the league and is a top 20 Jets player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Bowell deserves it more than half those names but Pace should be in there. Agreed. Remove the kicker put Pace in there. He's a ******* kicker. jets offensive MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 not that it matters but Breno is a more important and talented Jet than Colon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Demario Davis has got to be higher than that. No way Coples or Patterson or Milliner or Geno are better players at their respective position than Davis right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 jets offensive MVP Powell? Makes sense. He led the team in yards from scrimmage, was 2nd in receiving and was money in a couple of games on the ground. Guys just a good all around Football player. Rex has done a hell of a job developing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Guys, kickers are kewl and score lots of points. Agree on the Pace ommission. Kyle Wilson should have been honorable mention, too. Geno's December shot him up the list. It's too bad the list is final, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I'm really tired of arguing the point - THIS LIST IS FINAL!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Bowell deserves it more than half those names but Pace should be in there. Agreed. Remove the kicker put Pace in there. He's a ******* kicker. Na, Folk had a probowl type year last year. Bilal isn't even a starter. I can't believe that what Calvin pace provides isn't better than 176 carries for 697 yards and 1 TD. And I'm not discrediting Bilal, coming off the bench and avg. 4 yards per carry is vital. Im just saying that given Calvin's role in the defense doesn't lend itself to 10 sacks in a season. thats pretty impressive. Even if Bilal stays on the list which would be cool, the maker on the list is seriously telling me that Calvin Pace isn't better than Leger or Kendrick in their limited roles? Kendrick even lost his job to Damon Harrison. Calvin Pace should have made this list somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 What is this list supposed to be? The best players or least likely to be cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 2. Nick Mangold, C 11. Dmitri Patterson, CB 12. Geno Smith, QB 13. Dee Milliner, CB 16. Michael Vick, QB 17. Leger Douzable and Kenrick Ellis, DT --- same dude, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 What is this list supposed to be? Final... duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Na, Folk had a probowl type year last year. Bilal isn't even a starter. I can't believe that what Calvin pace provides isn't better than 176 carries for 697 yards and 1 TD. And I'm not discrediting Bilal, coming off the bench and avg. 4 yards per carry is vital. Im just saying that given Calvin's role in the defense doesn't lend itself to 10 sacks in a season. thats pretty impressive. Even if Bilal stays on the list which would be cool, the maker on the list is seriously telling me that Calvin Pace isn't better than Leger or Kendrick in their limited roles? Kendrick even lost his job to Damon Harrison. Calvin Pace should have made this list somehow. He's a kicker. Powell led the team in yards from scrimmage and was the 2nd leading receiver on the team. For a team with zero offense, his production was probably more valuable than what Pace provided. Hard to verify either or...but thats my thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 FINAL LIST FOLKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Is this list final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 He's a kicker. Powell led the team in yards from scrimmage and was the 2nd leading receiver on the team. For a team with zero offense, his production was probably more valuable than what Pace provided. Hard to verify either or...but thats my thought. His production sounds good until we come back down to earth and realize that this is the anemic Jets offense we're talking about here. It wasn't like that feat was too damn hard to achieve lol. But I dont want to sound like I'm saying Powell doesn't deserve to be on the list, I just feel that if you have a pro bowl type season, even as a kicker on such a team then you deserve to be on the list. If you're the best in the league at what you do though there's no stat can give you credit you still deserve to be on this list like Calvin Pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Is this list final? This is it^^ The final list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 His production sounds good until we come back down to earth and realize that this is the anemic Jets offense we're talking about here. It wasn't like that feat was too damn hard to achieve lol. But I dont want to sound like I'm saying Powell doesn't deserve to be on the list, I just feel that if you have a pro bowl type season, even as a kicker on such a team then you deserve to be on the list. If you're the best in the league at what you do though there's no stat can give you credit you still deserve to be on this list. folk is out most talented offensive player in 2013 measured against his peers. sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 For some reason the title of this thread makes me think of the Violent Femmes. The Violent Femmes. They bring all their equipment on the bus..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 folk is out most talented offensive player in 2013 measured against his peers. sad but true Exactly. Normally the kicker probably shouldn't be on the list. But he was our most consistent threat to put points on the board last year. Thats not Folks fault lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think you have to drop Mangold and Brick a few slots after awful seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I'd go with this. Not that anyone cares: 1. Muhammad Wilkerson, DE 2. Eric Decker, WR (+4 spots compared to OP's rankings) * Best FA WR on the market, has been WR1-level productive with three very different QB's in his career. 3. Sheldon Richardson, DE 4. Nick Mangold, C (-2) 5. Damon Harrison, DT 6. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT (-2) 7. Chris Ivory, RB (+3) * Despite mediocre OL play still had 4.6 ypc. We've complained for years about RB's who only take what the OL gives them. Ivory gives us more. Only reason he isn't higher is he can't catch passes. Guess what: Neither can Marshawn Lynch. Not a problem there. 8. Jeremy Kerley, WR (+1) * Offense showed a marked decline when he wasn't in the lineup. I'm excited to see how he fares this season with Decker on the outside. 9. Dee Milliner, CB (+4) * Sure, this ranking is more on potential rather than overall body of work, but If you can handle yourself against Josh Gordon, you're a top 10 player on this roster. His physical tools are off the charts; he merely needs time at the 2nd hardest position on the field behind QB. 10. Demario Davis, LB (+8) * Not sure why Davis was so low on the other guy's rankings. Captain of the defense with sideline to sideline speed. 11. Kyle Wilson, CB (+10) * He's gotten killed here but has become a vital performer against slot guys who have become insanely difficult to handle in today's NFL. 12. Breno Giacommini, RT (+9) * Huge upgrade in the run-blocking department over Austin Howard. We'll finally be able to run to the right side with success this year. 13. David Harris, LB (-6) * Completely one-dimensional player who once got outrun by Alge Crumpler. Yes, this is still relevant today. 14. Quinton Coples, LB (+1) * It's simple. With his hand in the dirt he should be higher on this list. When he's not, he's lower. But definitely still a top 15 guy on raw talent alone. 15. Chris Johnson, RB (+4) * Finally, a capable pass-catching back with some moves and a little speed. Yes, he's on the decline, but as a RBBC member, he's better than most # 2's out there. 15. Calvin Pace, OLB (+6) * Still wins battles at the point of attack. Was definitely overpaid by this team when he first came here, but is actually a very underrated rotational guy at his currently salary. 16. Leger Douzable, DT (+1) * No, not the same guy as Kenrick Ellis. He's better. 17. Bilal Powell, RB (+3) * With injury prone Ivory and aging Chris Johnson ahead of him, he's still an important piece to the puzzle. There's something to be said for the poor man's Curtis Martin types who do all things at at least an average level and stay healthy, especially at this position on the field. 18. Geno Smith, QB (-6) * The incumbent performed OK in the final 4 games of the season and showed some ability to win games on his own during the season. Granted, those games in which he played a big part in winning were ones against poor defenses, but he belongs on this list nonetheless. Just not at # 12. 19. Kenrick Ellis, DT (-2) 20. Willie Colon, G (-6) Honorable Mention/Jury's Out: Jace Amaro, TE (A guy can dream we have a real TE for once, no?); Calvin Pryor, S Not making the cut: Michael Vick, QB (dead to me AND terrible); Nick Folk, K (Dude, kickers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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