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I live here so I'm curious.  Real interest or just a negotiating ploy?

 

 

SAN ANTONIO — Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two top lieutenants met recently with several San Antonio officials to discuss the potential of moving his NFL team from the Bay Area to the Alamo City, local leaders involved in the talks confirmed Tuesday.

On the weekend of July 18, Davis met with the officials, including Henry Cisneros, then-Mayor Julián Castro, City Manager Sheryl Sculley, Mario Hernandez of the San Antonio Economic Development Foundation, and both Richard Perez and David McGee, the president and chairman of the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce, respectively.

Late Tuesday, after the Express-News published a version of this story on its websites, Sculley issued a memo to the City Council.

“I was asked to meet two weeks ago with the owner of the Oakland Raiders, Mark Davis, and members of his staff. Mr. Davis has expressed interest in a possible relocation of his NFL team to San Antonio and we are engaged in preliminary due diligence,” she wrote. “The agenda for this visit included a tour of the Alamodome and meetings with local business leaders.”

Sculley wrote that those discussions were preliminary and confidential and that she would update the council as things progressed.

San Antonio has often been used as a bargaining chip for pro sports franchises trying to negotiate better deals in their own respective cities, but sources have characterized Davis' interest in San Antonio to be at least somewhat more serious. He is clearly perturbed with his current situation in Oakland, where the team's lease expires after the 2014-15 season.

Cisneros, who led the charge to build the Alamodome when he was mayor, has been described by sources as the architect of the meeting. His son-in-law, Brad Badger, is in corporate sponsorship sales for the Raiders.

When reached by the San Antonio Express-News, he tempered the significance of the meetings. Cisneros said that over the years, he'd become friends with Davis, who was already coming to San Antonio for an event. Cisneros said he wanted to take the opportunity to make a pitch to Davis in case he decides to relocate the team.

“So we spent the weekend and took advantage of the opportunity to show him San Antonio in the event if it ever became necessary to consider a site other than Oakland,” Cisneros said. “We know they have lease issues with Alameda County, so it was a good opportunity to show him facilities in San Antonio as well as have him meet key leaders in San Antonio.”

Davis and his associates spent two or three days here, visiting the Alamodome and other places, sources familiar with the talks said. They also took an aerial tour of the city in a helicopter, arranged by developer Marty Wender.

With some upgrades, the Alamodome could be ready for a 2015-16 NFL season, though it would be a temporary home at best. NFL teams likely would need 100 suites, and the Alamodome currently has 52. It physically could facilitate the addition of 48 more, but funding has yet to be earmarked by the city for such upgrades.

If the Raiders moved here, though, Davis is expected to seek a new stadium within a few years, after the team had proved itself in the Alamo City.

Davis told San Antonio civic and business leaders he isn't seeking a “Jerry Jones-type facility” and prefers “a small, intimate” stadium that he can place “a statue of his father in front of,” a source said.

But even if San Antonio ponies up an enticing deal and Davis ultimately decides to relocate here, the two sides would still face an uphill battle. San Antonio only ranks in the mid-30s in the nation's top television markets and NFL owners — including the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans — would have to vote on the deal. And whether the NFL would allow the team to leave the sixth largest media market for the 36th remains unclear.

Any team desiring to relocate would need the blessing of 24 of the league's 32 owners. Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications, had little to say on a potential Raiders relocation.

“We don't have any information about (Davis' meeting in San Antonio), so there is no reason for us to comment,” he said Tuesday. “We have received no applications from any of our teams to relocate at this point, so there is nothing for us to respond to.”

Though San Antonio ranks 36th in the country's top television markets, the Raiders have a significant Hispanic fan base and Davis apparently believes his team would do well in South Texas.

Cisneros said the Alamodome is one of the few buildings of its “quality and size” that an NFL team might inhabit if it needed to relocate.

He said he offered insight to Davis about “the market, the scale of the market, the relationship to Austin, the Mexico connection, which should obviously be something he should have in his mind.”

It appears that his meeting here has been in the works for at least a couple months. A source familiar with the talks said he had heard a couple months ago that the Raiders were interested in San Antonio. But the details of Davis' visit indicate that he could be interested in San Antonio more than just as a bargaining chip in Oakland.

While here, the Raiders owner had separate discussions with Spurs owner Peter Holt and Red McCombs, who both showed interest in having a stake in the team if it were to move here. A source indicated that the beleaguered Wheatley Heights sports complex on the East Side could serve as a potential training facility, and Davis also looked at open land during his visit.

Though Holt is apparently interested in NFL in San Antonio, others in the Spurs organization are not. There are concerns, a source said, that the Raiders, whose colors are also black and silver, could pull away from the Spurs' fan base — and their pocketbooks.

Through the years, NFL and Major League Baseball teams seeking new stadiums have flirted with San Antonio but none of those talks ever came to fruition. In the NFL, the New Orleans Saints, the Minnesota Vikings, the Arizona Cardinals, the San Diego Chargers and others reached out to San Antonio either directly or through the media. The MLB's Florida Marlins even sent representatives to San Antonio to meet with County Judge Nelson Wolff and other county officials in 2006.

In 2005, Saints owner Tom Benson had serious talks with then-Mayor Phil Hardberger about relocating his team to San Antonio in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. The Saints made the city their headquarters after the storm damaged New Orleans' Superdome and even played three regular season games at the Alamodome, but then-NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue convinced Benson to return the club to the Crescent City.

Finally, tired of being used as leverage for teams to gain better deals in their markets, Wolff and other leaders decided after the Marlins left that they would only negotiate with teams that had the relocation blessing of their respective leagues.

In 2011, the city and county commissioned California-based Premier Partnerships, sales and marketing firm focused on “revenue optimization” of sports initiatives, to conduct a feasibility study. The consultant determined that San Antonio could support the Arena Football League and lower-division soccer but not teams in the MLB or NFL.

The report said, among other things, that San Antonio fell short on the number of Fortune 500 companies and median household income. Its authors recommended that San Antonio “should continue to build its sports landscape and take a 'wait and see' approach with larger professional leagues.”

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Likely leverage. I'm still on the fence about San Antonio being able to support a NFL team, even with the Alamodome. There's an argument to be made going either way and NFL owners tend to bank on sure things. I think Oklahoma City eventually makes a legit play for a team. They're about 5-10 years away from being able to sell the draw to the league. Have to sell the city on funding a stadium though.

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I can't imagine there's real consideration to unveil an Al Davis statue in San Antonio on the part of the Raiders. Oakland all the way and, if not, then Los Angeles.

And kudos to them for not wanting to be a second class tenant in San Francisco. Franchises who do that are assholes.

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I can't imagine there's real consideration to unveil an Al Davis statue in San Antonio on the part of the Raiders. Oakland all the way, and if not, then Los Angeles.

And kudos to them for not wanting to be a second class tenant in San Francisco. Franchises who do that are assholes.

 

Yeah, it's much better to have one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL and need to tarp off the entire upper deck to avoid a black out. 

 

The Raiders are a slapdick franchise. 

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Yeah, it's much better to have one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL and need to tarp off the entire upper deck to avoid a black out. 

 

The Raiders are a slapdick franchise.

They are now, and it's a shame. Love 'em or hate 'em, the NFL is a better league when the bad boy Raiders are the rogue winners of the west.

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If the Bills are worth $ 1 billion, the Raiders would have to be idiots to go to SA rather than relocate to a new stadium in the Bay Area or down to SoCal. SoCal as a market has problems but it still has to be more valuable than SA.

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They are now, and it's a shame. Love 'em or hate 'em, the NFL is a better league when the bad boy Raiders are the rogue winners of the west.

 

Unfortunately, those days are over and I fear they will never return. Al Davis was the Raiders. His son is an idiot with a bowl haircut. 

 

The commitment to excellence is dead. 

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Considering the study cited at the end of the story, if it is a negotiating tactic for leverage, it is a poor one.  While the study was 3 years ago, I do not believe that things have changed that dramatically for the city of SA to now be able to support an NFL team. 

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Unfortunately, those days are over and I fear they will never return. Al Davis was the Raiders. His son is an idiot with a bowl haircut. 

 

The commitment to excellence is dead.

I remember when I first saw that friggin' idiotic haircut. I get people doing or saying things to effect a, "Hey, look at me!" response, but c'mon. What is he thinking in doing this? "The Donald ain't got nothin' on me!" Just ridiculous.

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I remember when I first saw that friggin' idiotic haircut. I get people doing or saying things to effect a, "Hey, look at me!" response, but c'mon. What is he thinking in doing this? "The Donald ain't got nothin' on me!" Just ridiculous.

 

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Dude looks like a mental patient who lost a bet. 

 

This guy makes me appreciate Woody Johnson.

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The NFL wants  a team bad in LA market- that is the next relocation/expansion

I hope the league puts off expansion of any kind. Thirty-two teams and 16 games is damn near perfect.

The Raiders moving back to LA makes the most sense from the perspective of both the team and the league, though.

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