JonEJet Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Bill Maas is on WFAN radio being interviewed by Joe Benigno. Says that the only thing holding up The Edwards to KC deal is compensation. Edwards is The Chiefs #1 choice and both teams are in deep negotiations right now. This is going to happen...We'd better get a 2 and a 3 AT LEAST I can understand the Chiefs not forking over a #1, but a 2 and 3 gives us ammo to make more moves I guess...bye bye Herm :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well... if Herm goes I hope we can get as much as we can for him. A 2/3 sounds better since we have cap issues for another number one. Here is an idea.... How about trading Herm for a 2/3 and trading our 2/3 to move up to the #1 spot and get The BUSH! BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Trade our #4 and the Herm (2/3) to move up and get Bush... GREAT IDEA...we get Bush for Hermy and a #4!!!!! I doubt Bradway would do it... but how can you not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well... if Herm goes I hope we can get as much as we can for him. A 2/3 sounds better since we have cap issues for another number one. Here is an idea.... How about trading Herm for a 2/3 and trading our 2/3 to move up to the #1 spot and get The BUSH! BZ Given TBs history I could definitely see this happening. He has traded up in the first round twice to get "his" guy (Santana Moss and D-Rob). If the jets get these picks for Herm, and Bush is the guy Terry wants, I see the Jets striking a deal to get the #1 pick. In addition, my understanding is that TB was on a radio show recently and stated that he expects a 3rd and 5th rounder for the loss of LJ and K Mac so we could realistically be looking at 4 additional picks in the first five rounds, three of them being in the top three rounds. Not a bad situation to start rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 you may even be able to land a Volek or Schaub for the Kareem and lamont comp picks... That would be a Heist.. Lamont, kareem and herm for Matt Scaub and reggie Bush!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You cannot trade compensatory selections, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You cannot trade compensatory selections, either. Correct, those would not be chips that TB could use to move up, but the picks for Herm can be dealt, those are the picks I was referring to. I realize K-Mac and Lamont picks can't be traded for anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Giving up a 2nd and 3rd to move up for Bush is too much. IMO, we're better off not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Giving up a 2nd and 3rd to move up for Bush is too much. IMO, we're better off not doing that. there is no way the texans would take a 2nd and a 3rd + the #4 for the no 1 pick. just look at the draft pick value chart. the texans will not be trading this pick. even if they need o line help you can't pass on a player like reggie bush that will give a huge bost to your franchise and create major excitiment about texans football in houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'd rather keep all the picks and rebuild the Offense with them especially the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 there is no way the texans would take a 2nd and a 3rd + the #4 for the no 1 pick. just look at the draft pick value chart. the texans will not be trading this pick. even if they need o line help you can't pass on a player like reggie bush that will give a huge bost to your franchise and create major excitiment about texans football in houston. I'm not sure I agree with that. If the Texans were to make that deal they could arguably grab the #1 OT and #1 OG in the draft with D. Davis to run behind that line and get David Carr a bit of protection. Definitely wouldn't be a bad deal for the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm not sure I agree with that. If the Texans were to make that deal they could arguably grab the #1 OT and #1 OG in the draft with D. Davis to run behind that line and get David Carr a bit of protection. Definitely wouldn't be a bad deal for the Texans. they have cap room. they can address their problems along the o line through free agentcy. they can't afford to pass on reggie bush. davis is a solid back but he's nowhere near the player bush is going to be, or to create as much hype for their team as reggie will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 they have cap room. they can address their problems along the o line through free agentcy. they can't afford to pass on reggie bush. davis is a solid back but he's nowhere near the player bush is going to be, or to create as much hype for their team as reggie will. I see where you're coming from but I suppose we can agree to disagree. I think the opportunity to replace 2/5 of that horrible line with some youth would be something the Texans would consider because of the fact that of all the needs they have, RB is not one of them. If I were them I'd make that deal, but I wouldn't be shocked either way. Both moves can be easily justified IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Are they going to interview a white candidate? I'd hate for Jessie Jackson to throw a law suit into this thing. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 There are so many holes-Mr. White, Mr. Cutler, Mr. Ferguson would all fill some serious holes. And there are other guys sprinkled throughout the 2nd and 3rd rounds who would do much the same. Keep the picks and shore up the offense. I still think Robertson is going to be a player. But that trade looks pretty bad in retrospect. And since teams know we got them for nothing, trading them is almost too easy. Better to get bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I see where you're coming from but I suppose we can agree to disagree. I think the opportunity to replace 2/5 of that horrible line with some youth would be something the Texans would consider because of the fact that of all the needs they have, RB is not one of them. If I were them I'd make that deal, but I wouldn't be shocked either way. Both moves can be easily justified IMO. in most other draft years trading down and getting oline help would be the right thing for them to do. but when a player like reggie bush is out there you can't pass on him. they still have the first pick of the 2nd round and i'm sure they can get a olinemen with that pick and with that + the free agentcy they have a chance to fix that line. reggie bush will go there and be a top 3 offenseive force in football for 10 years there. they will have plenty of time to get decent olinemen. players like reggie bush don't come along that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Trade our #4 and the Herm (2/3) to move up and get Bush... GREAT IDEA...we get Bush for Hermy and a #4!!!!! I doubt Bradway would do it... but how can you not!! That's not enough ammo. According to the draft chart, it will take #4 #34 KCs 2nd rounder KCs 3rd rounder However, we probably could go with #4 and our first from next year for possibly Houston's 3rd rounder as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Bush is a very talented player. But if you give up the equivalent of Lendale White and D'Brick for him(or talent on that scale), its' too much. I've seen D'Brick favorably compared to the Skins Chris Samuel. Now, that may not be sexy and great to some, but Clinton Portis had a great year behind him and Mark Brunnell was helped by him imensely. LT may not be a pick fans can see as great right away. But give me Chris Samuel for a decade and I'll take it, and what ever els the jets can get later in the draft and go from there. Samuel, Ogden, Pace, Boselli, Munoz, Jacoby, Jumbo-those are guys you can build a solid OL from. ANd it flows from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 That's not enough ammo. According to the draft chart, it will take #4 #34 KCs 2nd rounder KCs 3rd rounder However, we probably could go with #4 and our first from next year for possibly Houston's 3rd rounder as well? The chart is a guide, not the bible. Not saying it will or will not happen, but unless there is a riddiculous difference in value, teams will sometimes make an "unbalanced" trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 I have a weird feeling we will be doing the same with Abe A sign and trade thing....this draft could turn out to be enough to entice Jimmy Johnson Lets say we get a 1st and a 3rd for Abe We get a 2nd and 3rd and next years 2nd for Herm We would have 2 1sts 2 2nds 3 3rds Well folks, I'd have to say that's an immediate influx of talent, and an immediate overhaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm not sure I agree with that. If the Texans were to make that deal they could arguably grab the #1 OT and #1 OG in the draft with D. Davis to run behind that line and get David Carr a bit of protection. Definitely wouldn't be a bad deal for the Texans. I want the top OT and OG in the draft. I would rather hold on to the picks and grab those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 If Herm goes, Terry Bradway better not be the man left to rebuild this thing. That would be bad. All these picks, I will take my chances with somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I want the top OT and OG in the draft. I would rather hold on to the picks and grab those guys. I agree 100% mbn. Getting D' Brick at #4 is a possibility (Winston or McNeill if we trade down) and then Jean Gilles later....nice way to start rebuilding. Texas OT Jon Scott is a guy I'll also be watching closely tonight going against Frostee Rucker. Should be a good match-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 and with the cap..we maybe cant afford twp #1's...so trade em and get bush!!! Either way, I and Happy...The 2006 Jets will be completely NEW.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I have a weird feeling we will be doing the same with Abe A sign and trade thing....this draft could turn out to be enough to entice Jimmy Johnson Lets say we get a 1st and a 3rd for Abe We get a 2nd and 3rd and next years 2nd for Herm We would have 2 1sts 2 2nds 3 3rds Well folks, I'd have to say that's an immediate influx of talent, and an immediate overhaul first of all PLEASE NO to jimmy johnson i want a young hungry coach like ron rivera donnie or dinger. secondly by trading john you're just creating another hole you'll need to fill in the draft or though free agentcy and the chances of getting a player as good as john are slim. you don't trade players just to make trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The chart is a guide, not the bible. Not saying it will or will not happen, but unless there is a riddiculous difference in value, teams will sometimes make an "unbalanced" trade. Not that unbalanced. People still use the chart as a guide, like you said, but they don't swurve that far off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I have a weird feeling we will be doing the same with Abe A sign and trade thing....this draft could turn out to be enough to entice Jimmy Johnson Lets say we get a 1st and a 3rd for Abe We get a 2nd and 3rd and next years 2nd for Herm We would have 2 1sts 2 2nds 3 3rds Well folks, I'd have to say that's an immediate influx of talent, and an immediate overhaul I almost started a seperate thread to discuss the number of possible picks but I'd rather wait and see what happens before we start "spending" picks we don't have. However, one thing you could be adding to that list is another 3rd rd. comp pick. That would be a ton of talent to bring in and with that many early picks, even if you only hit on half of them, thats 3-4 talented players added to your starters. I think it would be unrealistic to expecet all eight players to pan out. Although it would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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