ComfortablyNumb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Schotty being Schotty..From SB nation.. How did the Rams try to get their young play maker Tavon Austin the ball? By lining his little ass up in the backfield and trying to have him run a Power O between the tackles. For those unfamiliar, a Power O run involves pulling linemen, blocking fullbacks with lots and lots of contact on the ball carrier. For that reason it's usually reserved for bigger running backs who can take a pounding and still get tough yards up the middle. Austin is listed at 5'9 and 176 pounds. What in the entire f***?! And yet, Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer still has a job ... http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/11/6135531/nfl-week-1-film-review-defensive-linemen-jared-allen-bears-minnesota-vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 but they would never expect that pip squeak to run a Power O, therefore it must be a good play call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No, no, it's not the plays, they just didn't execute it right. Really. That's all that was going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I bet you before the ball was snapped there was about 15 shifts on the line that only confused the offense while the defense laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 but they would never expect that pip squeak to run a Power O, therefore it must be a good play call! The famous Shotty element of surprise play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The famous Shotty element of surprise play haha exactly. "they expect a run, so i won't throw it, i will just call a different run play that makes absolutely no sense! they will never expect that!" schotty personifies the "two clever by half" saying perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 But the real question is, did he put the FB in motion only to line up on the outside like a WR during the play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 haha exactly. "they expect a run, so i won't throw it, i will just call a different run play that makes absolutely no sense! they will never expect that!" Yes, the "they're expecting run, everyone expects me to pass because of this so ill counter with another run" offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yes, the "they're expecting run, everyone expects me to pass because of this so ill counter with another run" offense yeah that sums it up nicely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yes, the "they're expecting run, everyone expects me to pass because of this so ill counter with another run" offense Also known as the Not Going Anywhere offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Still think having all your receivers run 8 yard curls on a 3rd and 10 beats it for pure stupidity......or is that genius? ......nope definitely stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundunit Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 How many slants are there per game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComfortablyNumb Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Amazing how far nepotism goes in the NFl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 lol the schotty saga continues. there's always some schlub who insists schottenheimer wasn't the problem. false, schlub, false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 How many slants are there per game? Line up with 5 WRs and all 5 run quick slants in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 We are still harping on Schottenhiemer? Do you guys remember saying it could not get worse? It did. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Still think having all your receivers run 8 yard curls on a 3rd and 10 beats it for pure stupidity......or is that genius? ......nope definitely stupidity. Memories, all alone in the moonlight..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 We are still harping on Schottenhiemer? Do you guys remember saying it could not get worse? It did. Move on. That man single ruined Mark Sanchez. He was just a boy ffs...Not once has he apologized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 haha exactly. "they expect a run, so i won't throw it, i will just call a different run play that makes absolutely no sense! they will never expect that!" schotty personifies the "two clever by half" saying perfectly. So that's like, what, 1.5 clever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 We are still harping on Schottenhiemer? Do you guys remember saying it could not get worse? It did. Move on. don't get me started on gastineu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Memories, all alone in the moonlight..... For what it's worth, #25 (Joe McKnight?) might've had a chance for a 1st down had Sanchez thrown his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Still think having all your receivers run 8 yard curls on a 3rd and 10 beats it for pure stupidity......or is that genius? ......nope definitely stupidity. No, my favorite was let's line up three receivers next to each other against man coverage and have them all run the same pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No, my favorite was let's line up three receivers next to each other against man coverage and have them all run the same pattern. i wish i understood why he did this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 i wish i understood why he did this To quote JiF - he has dumb brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 For what it's worth, #25 (Joe McKnight?) might've had a chance for a 1st down had Sanchez thrown his way. I was thinking the same thing.. corner back was 4-5 some yards away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Rams OC Brian Schottenheimer will interview for the Vanderbilt head-coaching vacancy Wednesday. Schottenheimer seems to get head-coaching interviews every year, and we're not sure why. His offenses are unimaginative and vanilla on an annual basis. In 2013, he couldn't find a way to use Tavon Austin and didn't feature high-priced TE Jared Cook nearly enough. Schotty likes to run a ground-and-pound offense. He did that with former Vanderbilt star Zac Stacy this past season and relied on Shonn Greene in the past. Schottenheimer has been the Rams' OC the past two seasons. Colts OC Pep Hamilton is also in the mix at Vandy. Jan 15 - 9:29 AM http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9335/brian-schottenheimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No, my favorite was let's line up three receivers next to each other against man coverage and have them all run the same pattern. Or the similarly brilliant circumstance of lining the WRs up all across the formation, but then have their patterns all ultimately going to the same exact spot on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Or the similarly brilliant circumstance of lining the WRs up all across the formation, but then have their patterns all ultimately going to the same exact spot on the field. I ******* hate that idiot so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I was thinking the same thing.. corner back was 4-5 some yards away. It's the perfect evidence of how both Schotty and Sanchez sucked, at the same exact time, yet completely independently of one another. The play call was mind-numbingly stupid, and yet Sanchez still managed to execute it even worse by throwing it to the player who had the worst chance of actually converting the down, as the coverage was tight and he was double-covered. Neither one has an excuse for that play, they both failed miserably at their respective jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Or the similarly brilliant circumstance of lining the WRs up all across the formation, but then have their patterns all ultimately going to the same exact spot on the field. well if it fools our own players it really must fool the defense! schotty just wanted to be seen as clever by "out thinking" the other guy. i could do unexpected things as OC of an NFL team, too. but we would never score a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 No, my favorite was let's line up three receivers next to each other against man coverage and have them all run the same pattern. i wish i understood why he did this Or the similarly brilliant circumstance of lining the WRs up all across the formation, but then have their patterns all ultimately going to the same exact spot on the field. I was not a fan of this either, but I'm pretty sure there were articles that described this as an attempt to simplify things for Sanchez who had trouble going through his progressions across the field. I remember reading some guys I respected saying that was a valid thing to do. Seems crazy to me. Remember, the Jets actually used Tom Moore to help with the passing game in 2011 and Sanchez seemed to regress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I was not a fan of this either, but I'm pretty sure there were articles that described this as an attempt to simplify things for Sanchez who had trouble going through his progressions across the field. I remember reading some guys I respected saying that was a valid thing to do. Seems crazy to me. Remember, the Jets actually used Tom Moore to help with the passing game in 2011 and Sanchez seemed to regress. It's certainly possible there was some sort of logic behind this all, but it certainly seemed like it often meant not only having 3 receivers to one spot, but drawing 5 defenders there along with them. Sanchez's penchant to also stare intently at that exact spot from the moment the ball was snapped likely didn't do much to help that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Memories, all alone in the moonlight..... What's even more tragic is Sanchez threw to the only receiver double covered. That play epitomises the s**t sandwich that was the Schotty/Sanchez era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I was not a fan of this either, but I'm pretty sure there were articles that described this as an attempt to simplify things for Sanchez who had trouble going through his progressions across the field. I remember reading some guys I respected saying that was a valid thing to do. Seems crazy to me. Remember, the Jets actually used Tom Moore to help with the passing game in 2011 and Sanchez seemed to regress. maybe he figured since sanchez couldn't go through progressions to just have him throw to one spot on the field and maximize chance it is caught by having 3 guys there waiting for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 maybe he figured since sanchez couldn't go through progressions to just have him throw to one spot on the field and maximize chance it is caught by having 3 guys there waiting for it OR any one of the three D-linemen still in that same area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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