CobraVerde 5,824 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 if youre listening to espn radio.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NCJETSFAN 0 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Everyone except the coach who wanted him cut after the 1st video came out and he was told no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CobraVerde 5,824 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CobraVerde 5,824 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Everyone except the coach who wanted him cut after the 1st video came out and he was told no I believe you mean Harbaugh saw the video right after and wanted him cut but was told no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Larz 71,413 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 why Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Integrity28 73,720 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Everyone except the coach who wanted him cut after the 1st video came out and he was told no I believe you mean Harbaugh saw the video right after and wanted him cut but was told no Yeah, that's what he said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dundunit 35 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl Crazy story, this was completely mishandled Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,424 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 DAMN YOU ESPN! WILL YOUR THEATRICAL TELETHONS EVER END?!? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dbatesman 47,927 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 DAMN YOU ESPN! WILL YOUR THEATRICAL TELETHONS EVER END?!? In a way, the real villains are the people who care about domestic abuse. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Il Mostro 2,313 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'd hire Ozzie in a heartbeat and kick Bradway to the curb. All in the same motion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,424 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'd hire Ozzie in a heartbeat and kick Bradway to the curb. All in the same motion. None of these guys are going to be working in the league for quite some time. And if the bribery/lying allegations are true there is a legit possibility that Bisciotti gets forced out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugg 44,629 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Bisciotti could find himself in Donald Sterling territory. This is f__ing crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kay_gee 407 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 this is a farce at this point. the Ravens are denying it, saying the authors are mistaken/misunderstanding/incorrect/etc... I'm shocked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,702 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 zzzz 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lith 17,632 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big L 50 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 What a circus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,424 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 They're playing the Browns next week? Man, Clevelanders have to secretly be loving this sh*t. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,702 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 No player did more for the community than Rice, and no player on the team embraced the city of Baltimore the way he did. Rice named his daughter, Rayven, after the team's nickname. He had the "Baltimore" tattooed on his forearms. He became friends with Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, appearing with her regularly at charity events. He raised millions for sick children, urged the state legislature in Annapolis to pass anti-bullying laws and hosted a football camp for hundreds of disadvantaged kids each year. He even dressed up as Santa Claus at an event hosted by the House of Ruth, a Baltimore shelter for victims of domestic violence. During the week before the Super Bowl this year, two weeks before the incident, Rice appeared on an anti-bullying panel. Perhaps most visibly, Rice was the longtime spokesman for M&T Bank, one of the team's main sponsors and one that has its name on the Ravens' stadium. Practically every time Bisciotti asked Rice to make an appearance on behalf of the team, he'd say yes. Pretty shocking how the Ravens and Goodell tried to protect Rice. What a POS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Larz 71,413 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 sorry, I can't care anymore was anyone mystified as to how his fiance became knocked out in the elevator ? this is all so ******* stupid 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BurnleyJet 8,833 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Ah so glad the Jets don't have a big top any more. It was obvious from the first video they must have seen the punch earlier. This will just run, people with an agenda are gunning for the Commisioner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SayNoToDMC 14,905 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I've been saying for years the NFL would fall apart without Jim Irsay's steady hand to guide it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSJ 37,650 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Goodell hasn't handled things correctly from his first days (spygate) to today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadetree 1,632 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'm sorry ...did I miss something .. Bribery? What's going on? I didn't see anything in the paper or on news this am? Can someone give me the long and the short of it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lith 17,632 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I'm sorry ...did I miss something .. Bribery? What's going on? I didn't see anything in the paper or on news this am? Can someone give me the long and the short of it? According to ESPN report, Ravens saw 2nd Rice video within hours of the incident and covered it up. Apparently Harbaugh wanted to cut Rice immediately back in Feb, but Ravens owner and GM would not allow it. Link below is to article by Christian Red in today's Daily News with excerpt from article. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/report-ravens-knew-details-ray-rice-video-rejected-coach-plea-cut-running-back-immediately-article-1.1946112 "According to the ESPN report, the Ravens’ director of security, Darren Sanders, was made aware of the inside-the-elevator video just hours after Rice clocked his then-fiancée, Janay Palmer, at the now-closed Revel Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City in mid-February. Sanders, according to the report, had reached out to an Atlantic City police officer, who described in detail what transpires in the elevator video. Sanders then conveyed the information to Ravens executives, according to ESPN, although the report does not name which individuals Sanders contacted. The report describes how Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, team president Dick Cass and GM Ozzie Newsome worked behind the scenes to try to have their star running back get off with a lenient punishment. According to ESPN, the three men campaigned with prosecutors in Atlantic City — where Rice was charged with assault — as well as with Goodell, since he would mete out punishment for Rice, and with organizational personnel. Ravens head coach John Harbaugh was one of the team executives who took a hard-line stance against Rice, according to ESPN, after Harbaugh saw the first video made public, where Palmer is seen being dragged out of the Atlantic City elevator by Rice. Harbaugh implored team brass to cut Rice, according to four sources who talked with ESPN. The Super Bowl-winning coach’s request was rebuffed." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,702 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 sorry, I can't care anymore was anyone mystified as to how his fiance became knocked out in the elevator ? this is all so ******* stupid Espn threw its collective investigative dicks around to give us something we already knew. This story has gotten so dumb. You would have thought the Ravens were hiding a lost JFK tape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishooked 63,190 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Is "Diamondstein" really that guys lawyer? Diamondstein? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New York Mick 95,348 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Maybe the coach is just trying to cover his own ass?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFanInDenver 799 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Is "Diamondstein" really that guys lawyer? Diamondstein? I am guessing he went with that name because Goldstein was taken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 121,198 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Espn threw its collective investigative dicks around to give us something we already knew. This story has gotten so dumb. You would have thought the Ravens were hiding a lost JFK tape. Then why go through all the trouble to cover things up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,424 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Then why go through all the trouble to cover things up? The bribery allegations are quite serious. I don't think most have grasped yet just exactly what that entails. If that one is true, and supposedly it came from Rice himself, Bisciotti is in for some sh*t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RutgersJetFan 93,424 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Is "Diamondstein" really that guys lawyer? Diamondstein? Yet ANOTHER reason why the legal system is the real heel in all of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,702 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Then why go through all the trouble to cover things up? Im still a little confused where the cover up was. Everyone knew what happened in the elevator once the first video was released. Screwing up the initial punishment(which the league has admitted to) isnt a cover up, it's a bad job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 121,198 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Im still a little confused where the cover up was. Everyone knew what happened in the elevator once the first video was released. Screwing up the initial punishment(which the league has admitted to) isnt a cover up, it's a bad job. I don't think you read the OTL report. I get it, its long and you don't care. But basically the Ravens offered Ray Rice a job in their front office if he stays quiet and takes the fall for everything. The NFL and the Ravens were untruthful about every step in this process. The Ravens did everything in their power to keep Rice from getting a heavy legal punishment and a lengthy suspension from the NFL. But when the video was released, suddenly it was Rice who had lied and they threw him under the bus. If they had simply admitted they bungled this it would have gone away much quicker. But as is always the case, the coverup is ALWAYS worse than the actions themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt39 42,702 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I don't think you read the OTL report. I get it, its long and you don't care. But basically the Ravens offered Ray Rice a job in their front office if he stays quiet and takes the fall for everything. I read the entire thing and they offered him a job. They never said keep quiet. The Ravens were untruthful about a video everyone had already seen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsfan80 121,198 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I read the entire thing and they offered him a job. They never said keep quiet. Put 2 and 2 together here. They saw the video from the start. So how else did Rice suddenly go from being a quality citizen and one worth protecting to the most evil of villains in all of this? He was the face of the Ravens, but the moment the video went public and he no longer was marketable, they decided to make him the scapegoat. Then, instead of turning their backs on him, they came back and offered him a future job after (paraphrasing) "riding all of this out." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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