T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 You don't equate sacks to pressures for the same reason you don't equate pass breakups to INTs. I take this back, actually. A PBU marks the termination of a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 holy sh*t maybe tom isn't a troll, maybe he just doesn't know what he is looking at ? sorry dude, I was a little harsh on you Larz. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I deleted my whole post there by accident. The highlights: 1. Coples should be putting up more numbers because he's playing behind three really good DL, and Coples is never seeing anything resulting a double team. 2. Coples won't see a second contract from the Jets unless the Next Head Coach turns him into a 4-3 DE/DT. 3. This article is trash fluff nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I deleted my whole post there by accident. The highlights: 1. Coples should be putting up more numbers because he's playing behind three really good DL, and Coples is never seeing anything resulting a double team. 2. Coples won't see a second contract from the Jets unless the Next Head Coach turns him into a 4-3 DE/DT. 3. This article is trash fluff nonsense. Harbaugh is going to turn him into Justin Smith 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Teams can't run the ball on us and thus, only have 58 rush attempts through three games; it's hard to both rush the passer and make tackles downfield. Wilk, Sheldon and Snacks only have 8, 6 and 9, respectively. On the other hand, teams have 112 passing attempts on us and Coples has disrupted the QB on 20 of them. His eight hurries and twelve pressures have affected opposing quarterbacks about once every five drop-backs. I know he's not putting up the gaudy sack numbers, but he's been doing a very good job at getting after the QB. +1. Criticism of Coples play this season is limited to those who have little or no understanding of his play responsibilities and role as OLB in Rex's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I deleted my whole post there by accident. The highlights: 1. Coples should be putting up more numbers because he's playing behind three really good DL, and Coples is never seeing anything resulting a double team. 2. Coples won't see a second contract from the Jets unless the Next Head Coach turns him into a 4-3 DE/DT. 3. This article is trash fluff nonsense. 1. 3 DL, not 4. So the O is blocking him with OTs and FB with free shots at him. Sometimes teams even chip then block him. 2. We'll have wait and see, but you WILL be wrong. (not an unusual occurrence). 3. Yes his number of pressures on plays he rushes the QB is total non sense. (eye roll) I remember you from JI. Your understanding of football remains rudimentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 1. 3 DL, not 4. So the O is blocking him with OTs and FB with free shots at him. Sometimes teams even chip then block him. 2. We'll have wait and see, but you WILL be wrong. (not an unusual occurrence). 3. Yes his number of pressures on plays he rushes the QB is total non sense. (eye roll) I remember you from JI. Your understanding of football remains rudimentary. I don't remember you. I'll just assume you were one of those guys who thought Dewayne Robertson was secretly awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 What happened to all those dudes who spent the last two years telling us that Kyle Wilson was the best nickel corner in the league because PFF said that thing that one time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Larz. Please. watch coples as much as you can today. give us a report after the game txs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 watch coples as much as you can today. give us a report after the game txs I'm learning so much about American football today, Larz. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Learning so much you guys. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Did he play today? Another great draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm learning so much about American football today, Larz. Thx. kindly file your report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 kindly file your report. I'm the one who doesn't know anything about football, remember? I was hoping you could explain all the nuanced subtleties of Coples' game today. You see, he didn't register a single half-tackle today, so it's hard for a noob like me to comprehend how awesome that is. Plz help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm the one who doesn't know anything about football, remember? I was hoping you could explain all the nuanced subtleties of Coples' game today. You see, he didn't register a single half-tackle today, so it's hard for a noob like me to comprehend how awesome that is. Plz help. nice try impress us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 nice try impress us You know me, Larz--I'm just relying on a stat sheet because I don't really know football. I can't find Coples' name on it anywhere. I'm going to need you to explain linebackin' to me. Is it like ninjain'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 strike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm the one who doesn't know anything about football, remember? I was hoping you could explain all the nuanced subtleties of Coples' game today. You see, he didn't register a single half-tackle today, so it's hard for a noob like me to comprehend how awesome that is. Plz help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 strike 2 Larz, you made an assertion that lacked verifiability and substance, and you continue to make it in an attempt to be condescending and confrontational. Wouldn't that be...trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 and he takes strike 3 looking sorry I ever accused you of being a troll TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 and he takes strike 3 looking sorry I ever accused you of being a troll TS Maybe you and Werblin can host a film session? Post it on YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 just go back to the dugout dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 He definitely fails the eyeball test. Looks stiff like VG. Don't know what to make of the PFF rankings. Although PFF was actually trying to tell me that K Wilson was a good player for a little while, and that's just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 just go back to the dugout dude Ok. Thank you for sharing your football expertise with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Ok. Thank you for sharing your football expertise with me. dude the point was you evaluate coples strictly on stats. I asked you to use your eyes and tell us what you saw. what did you see ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 dude the point was you evaluate coples strictly on stats. I asked you to use your eyes and tell us what you saw. what did you see ? A DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 A DT? again, sorry I called you a troll. the truth is you don't know what you are looking at. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 again, sorry I called you a troll. the truth is you don't know what you are looking at. sorry Help me out with some expert analysis, brother!!!!! What am I missing?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 This thread is going to make me happy forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I don't remember you. I'll just assume you were one of those guys who thought Dewayne Robertson was secretly awesome. Wow, wrong again. Keep it up. I'm sure you are on the verge of some sort of record for ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta14 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 +1. Criticism of Coples play this season is limited to those who have little or no understanding of his play responsibilities and role as OLB in Rex's system. I 100% agree with you, Coples is an absolute beast. An unstoppable relentless monster of a pass rusher that makes QB's wet themselves by mere mention of his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 That's like how you almost got laid like 100 times on your senior class trip to Cancun! Asking you to take a picture of her and her friends is NOT almost getting laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Wow, wrong again. Keep it up. I'm sure you are on the verge of some sort of record for ineptitude. Sonny, I'm glad you're back. Can you, as football cognoscenti, help me understand how Coples' straight-donut stat line from Sunday was actually the mark of a top-5 OLB? Shmuck that I am, I'm struggling with it. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Asking you to take a picture of her and her friends is NOT almost getting laid. You're going to hurt BJ12's feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 FWIW, the Richardson sack was largely created by Coples. Coples destroyed the LT and was immediately in the back field. He pushed him into Stafford, which made him step up in the pocket right where Sheldon eventually broke free from his man to get the sack. He doesnt play a position in this defense that is going to show up on the stat sheet. He's clearly playing out of position, which I know is Rex's fault but I cant blame him for trying to get your best players on the field as much as possible. Especially when your team is god awful and talent starved. Coples is a good player and will have a long career in the NFL. Possibly a great one once he finds his natural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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