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Does anyone think Izdik has purposely set up Rex to fail


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I don't.  No.

 

I think Idzik let Rex have his say, and Rex helped build this Rexian sh*theap, as he's been doing since he got here.

 

When you've already cost a GM, two O-Co, two D-Co, multiple other Coaches, two QB's, and a host of players their jobs......eventually, it's you.

 

It's Rex's team.  It's Rex's responsabillity.

 

It's Rex's last chance here now.

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Rex was failing just fine before Idzik got here.

 

Rex's best job was done with Mangini's guys. The minute Rex started influencing the make-up of this roster, it was all down hill.

 

That is how it works by the way, the GM doesn't make the picks in a vacuum. So, the people that have spent the last several years forging the argument that Rex picked a guy or Mike T picked him, and now Idzik, are ridiculous. The coach makes the grocery list, the GM tries to find the produce with the least bruises and the best chances of not spoiling. 

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no.. Idzik has just done a bad job thus far... I don't even think it's arguable at this point.

Rex is toast though, I imagine Idzik will last another year or two unless he finds a QB

 

yep

 

Hence, "No wins for Winston"

 

Jets select Jameis Winston with the 6th pick in the 2015 draft. it will fire up the fan base again, and buy Idzik another 2 years

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Rex was failing just fine before Idzik got here.

 

Rex's best job was done with Mangini's guys. The minute Rex started influencing the make-up of this roster, it was all down hill.

 

That is how it works by the way, the GM doesn't make the picks in a vacuum. So, the people that have spent the last several years forging the argument that Rex picked a guy or Mike T picked him, and now Idzik, are ridiculous. The coach makes the grocery list, the GM tries to find the produce with the least bruises and the best chances of not spoiling. 

 

Right, I'm sure Rex asked Idzik to sit on $21M while he didn't have any proven cornerbacks on the roster. That's totally in character for Rex.

 

How about when Tanny was still here? Rex sure loved that Stephen Hill pick, didn't he?

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Not really. This team wasn't ready to contend, Idzick knew this. He didn't want to bring in HIS coach because he knew this was a lost year.

Start fresh next year. Everything is going to plan except our scouting department sucks.

Only delusional JN posters thought we would contend this year.

"everything is going to plan except our scouting department sucks"

 

wouldn't that mean idzik sucks considering its his scouting department and his picks to make in the draft?

 

also, "fresh start next year"

 

seems to me idzik had a fresh start this year with 50m cap space and 12 picks. that's a wonderful place to be if you are a gm. time will tell, but a lot of people think that idzik could have done better with this much ammo. considerably better.

 

on another note, the jets might have been able to contend this year, if our resources were used properly. you know, maybe take a shot at another qb, as geno has shown nill in 20 games, maybe a right tackle and a guard who can actually block, a real wide receiver in a historically deep draft, not reaching for guys like sauders and mcdougle because you were overwhelmed during free agency,etc. idzik has a plan,but so far it is not looking good. lets hope 2015, idzik learns and corrects what he did wrong in 2014

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it's crossed my mind esp if he was told by woody he had to keep rex............maybe this is the only way he could get his own coach while looking blameless

 

and he could have just told woody he is saving the cap money to resign wilk, vick, and whoever else that way he appears blameless.

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Right, I'm sure Rex asked Idzik to sit on $21M while he didn't have any proven cornerbacks on the roster. That's totally in character for Rex.

 

How about when Tanny was still here? Rex sure loved that Stephen Hill pick, didn't he?

 

How many QBs, WRs, OCs, and GMs can we throw under the bus before we realize what the common denominator might be?

 

Do we really want to recount the draft picks that sucked that Rex did love? Stephen Hill is the exception, not the norm. Rex's influence on this roster has lead us to garbage at every position group except the DL. Rex's leadership has lead us to good run defense, terrible pass defense, absolutely no offense.

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like i said i am willing to give idzick more time the only common denominator in 4 crappy seasons of rex is well rex.

 

i don't count the first two years they were mangini's built teams.

 

Including the Revis pick, and let's face it, Revis was the sole reason Rex's pass defense was good at one point. Since he's been here, the pass D, like every other position group except DL, has gone in the toilet. 

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How many QBs, WRs, OCs, and GMs can we throw under the bus before we realize what the common denominator might be?

 

Do we really want to recount the draft picks that sucked that Rex did love? Stephen Hill is the exception, not the norm. Rex's influence on this roster has lead us to garbage at every position group except the DL. Rex's leadership has lead us to good run defense, terrible pass defense, absolutely no offense.

 

 

blah blah blah...

 

The reality is that we've had terrible QB's. That is the limiting factor.

 

the agruement could be whether or no Rex ruined Sanchez and Geno... not why he hasn't had success with terrible QB play

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Idzick kept Rex, so I dont think he's purposefully setting him up to fail.  I just dont think he has a clue how to build a Football team.  And why should he? When and where did he gain this knowledge or experience?  He's a nobody that Woody hired a staffing firm to find. 

 

So while I dont think its purposeful, he certainty didnt do Rex any favors by handing him a bottom 5 roster.  I'm pretty confident that Idzick is a ******* moron who will never run a team again when's fired in a year or two.  No coach is winning with this team.  

 

They should both be shown the door at the end of this debacle of a season.

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I am not completely sure what to think of Idzik so far.  One thing I don't understand is how people think Rex is still pulling the strings.  People think Rex drafted Pryor.  I don't see it.  If Rex had so much pull they would have gotten another corner.  At a minimum gotten Cromartie back.  There is no way that if Rex were such a major influence on this roster he would have gone into camp starting Milliner, Patterson and McDougle at corner. 

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Rex was failing just fine before Idzik got here.

Rex's best job was done with Mangini's guys. The minute Rex started influencing the make-up of this roster, it was all down hill.

That is how it works by the way, the GM doesn't make the picks in a vacuum. So, the people that have spent the last several years forging the argument that Rex picked a guy or Mike T picked him, and now Idzik, are ridiculous. The coach makes the grocery list, the GM tries to find the produce with the least bruises and the best chances of not spoiling.

You are dead on with that post.

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You are dead on with that post.

 

Yes, because bringing in Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard to run the defense on the field was a huge mistake...should have used the likes of Gholston, and Eric Smith who Mangini was kind enough to leave behind.

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Yes, because bringing in Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard to run the defense on the field was a huge mistake...should have used the likes of Gholston, and Eric Smith who Mangini was kind enough to leave behind.

 

Or that magnificent offense he inherited with the world beating starting QB, Kellen Clemens.  The uber talented Thomas Jones.  And the play making ability of Jerricho Cotchery and Chansi Stuckey.

 

Haha - Rex may suck, which is fine and good...but that team he took over was a bag of sh*t and like 3 players had to do with Mangini.  The rest were given back to him in the trade for Sanchez and damn, look at that team he built in Cleveland! 

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Or that magnificent offense he inherited with the world beating starting QB, Kellen Clemens.  The uber talented Thomas Jones.  And the play making ability of Jerricho Cotchery and Chansi Stuckey.

 

Haha - Rex may suck, which is fine and good...but that team he took over was a bag of sh*t and like 3 players had to do with Mangini.  The rest were given back to him in the trade for Sanchez and damn, look at that team he built in Cleveland! 

 

Just looked...Mangini drated 20 players, missed on over a dozen to include the biggest bust in team history in Gholston.  But due to revisionist history, it's Mangini's brilliant drafting that we miss the most.

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blah blah blah...

 

The reality is that we've had terrible QB's. That is the limiting factor.

 

the agruement could be whether or no Rex ruined Sanchez and Geno... not why he hasn't had success with terrible QB play

 

Based on the product on the field, Rex has systematically ruined every position group except the defensive line.

 

It has been nothing but steady decline, and no matter which QBs, GMs or others we throw at the problem, the decline continues.

 

Rex is better in front of a microphone than he is on the sideline.

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The question is, is he allowed to?

I assume you mean change QBs - I find it hard to believe he is that hancuffed, but I'm talking about game planning - run the ball 40+ times a game with an ocassional high percentage pass if he's that inept. Play a conservative offensive game and win the field position battle.Teams have won SBs with average QBs.

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