flgreen Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Source: Drafting Geno Smith was ’100 percent’ John Idzik’s decision Geno Smith It might have been a “Jets decision” as general manager John Idzik likes to say, but it wasn’t a unanimous decision to draft Geno Smith last year. Speaking to Metro, multiple team sources say the potential was evident in Smith, who now enters his second year as the Jets’ starting quarterback, but there was a recognition among management that he was far from a finished product. Even more telling, some in the Jets draft room felt Smith might never develop to be a long-term solution. “The question was ‘Can he be the guy?’ The room was split,” one team source told Metro. “This wasn’t a slam dunk.” All team sources spoke on the condition of anonymity. Everyone in the draft room last year agreed he had talent and that he could develop into a good quarterback. But there was a noticeable split in the room on whether Smith would ever develop. “John is big on everyone coming together and everyone being a part of it – the decision,” a source said. “But at the end of the day, John is a big believer in his way and the way he wants to do things. It all came down here to John. It’s all John — 100 percent.” There were ups and downs last year in Smith’s rookie year, but he made significant gains over the final month of the season as the Jets went 3-1 and finished with an 8-8 record. But there are limited signs of improvement this season. He is on pace to throw 20 interceptions, just one off the mark from his rookie year. Even though there was first-round hype around Smith, the West Virginia quarterback fell to the second round on concerns about his acclimation to the NFL from a wide-open passing offense in college. The 15 to 20 people in the Jets draft room in April 2013 discussed Smith as they ranked the top remaining players on that board. Smith had a late first-round grade and was the second quarterback on the Jets’ draft board behind E.J. Manuel, who was selected No. 16 overall but benched by the Bills this week. One team source said there was a question whether Smith “could compose himself.” Another team source said not everyone in the room was sold on “his ability to read defenses, [and] pocket presence. Simply, how high his ceiling was.” He was a U.S. Army All-American coming out of high school and statistically one of the best quarterbacks in the nation in college. Despite the big numbers, nearly every scout acknowledged he needed refinement. For now, the Jets are committed to Smith as their quarterback. Head coach Rex Ryan said Monday he believes Smith can be their franchise quarterback. “Well, I am hopeful of that. There is no doubt I am hopeful of that,” Ryan said. “I think he’s got the skillset to be an outstanding quarterback. I think he has the toughness, the mental toughness, to do it. I hope so.” But hope and actual belief are two separate things. Smith was appealing as the second quarterback on their draft board, but the concerns centered on his ceiling. In the second round, teams often draft on potential. Where Smith’s potential would take him was unclear. “It was a variety of things. You talk about cold weather, his mentality. Can he compose himself?” a source said. “Can this quarterback be that guy? Not everyone thought so.” Nearly every one who talked to Metro cautioned it is too soon to think about Smith being a bust. “There were plenty of people who said that he may not be the long-term solution at the position,” one of the team sources said. “He does many things right, you don’t want to pan him yet, but right now, you can’t help but look at the product on the field and say that the Jets knew what they were getting, and they got it.” Follow Jets beat writer Kristian Dyer on Twitter @KristianRDyer. - See more at: http://www.metro.us/newyork/sports/nfl/2014/10/01/source-drafting-geno-smith-100-percent-john-idziks-decision/#sthash.2th0kx3W.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Oooooooweeeeeeeeee bolts are falling out of the hull, baby. CYA time up in Florham, like the good ol' days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Terry"I told you guys about Russell Wilson!"Bradway goes into job preservation mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 why is this a story? honestly, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Idzik is a dolt. I don't know what anyone has ever found good about him. He dropped a lot of dead cap money with painfully obvious decisions, big Fn deal. The guy is Woody's puppet, nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Seems like several people in the FO have lost faith in Smith and are doing a CYA. "Don't blame this on me, I was against it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Annnnnnnd so it begins....." Not Rex fault ".....unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 This took longer than I thought it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Who cares? Why does this matter. Jets fans are such b#tches for even caring about the soap opera. Shut up already. Wow!!! The GM made a decision. Congrats !! Breakthrough news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Anonymous source my ass. Talk about a ******* a$$hole trying to make sure he's employed next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I ******* hate this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Leaks and anonymous sources- welcome to the Jets dysfunctional organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 By the way I have a serious question....isn't the final call on the draft choice supposed to be the GMs call?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 By the way I have a serious question....isn't the final call on the draft choice supposed to be the GMs call?????? right? how DARE he be an executive and make executive decisions! THAT BASTARD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Here we go. What a crazy team I spend my time on and root for. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Who cares? Why does this matter. Jets fans are such b#tches for even caring about the soap opera. Shut up already. Wow!!! The GM made a decision. Congrats !! Breakthrough news. With the Jets this is breakthrough news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Depends on whats going on with the FO, and CS right now. If MM and Lee are saying "the kid just doesn't have it, bench him", and Idzik is saying , "he's my guy play him", this is real trouble. The real things that bother me about this article are, #1 Dyer is generally a bit of a homer, and doesn't do the made up secret source for shock value. # 2 " multiple team sources" . This indicates it's not just one person CYA, but several FO/CS types are unhappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ryan Leaf was a LOCK!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I wonder what would have happened if the JETS Had drafted Geno with a Top 10 pick and given him 4 years to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Even if Geno Smith is a colossal bust (he's not) he was the 39th overall pick. Who gives a f***? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 did we not know this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 What loquacious type individual would most benefit from having the world knowing that Idzik, and Idzik alone, wanted to draft the very quarterback that the head coach is being forced to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Even if Geno Smith is a colossal bust (he's not) he was the 39th overall pick. Who gives a f***? His grade, positional value, and draft slot all matched up fine. This convo is so dumb. Perfectly reasonable trying for a prospect like that in that slot. This is retroactive distancing, and it's probably someone associated with Rex because the dude doesn't want anyone thinking he can't develop a quarterback, which he can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Where I work I can not even get 3 people to agree on a place to go to lunch- big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Even if Geno Smith is a colossal bust (he's not) he was the 39th overall pick. Who gives a f***? Absolutely right. Gee I wonder how many draft picks are 100% agreed upon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Where I work I can not even get 3 people to agree on a place to go to lunch- big deal Absolutely right. Gee I wonder how many draft picks are 100% agreed upon? From a draft slot perspective, I agree, but from a set back standpoint, and possibly an opportunity cost, I disagree. What happens if Geno turns out to suck, which is looking possible, and say Bridgewater or Garapacrapguy turns out to be very good NFL QB? Then, we lose several years and opportunity. It is not as simple as just saying who cares it was a second round pick. You can say that with pretty much any position other than the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why is this a story? They missed on a 2nd round draft pick. Its not unusual (especially for the Jets and their terrible scouting) and if its not a defensive player I doubt Rex has anything to do with it anyway. It doesn't change the fact that Geno sucks and Rex is a buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Absolutely right. Gee I wonder how many draft picks are 100% agreed upon? I hope not many this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 From a draft slot perspective, I agree, but from a set back standpoint, and possibly an opportunity cost, I disagree. What happens if Geno turns out to suck, which is looking possible, and say Bridgewater or Garapacrapguy turns out to be very good NFL QB? Then, we lose several years and opportunity. It is not as simple as just saying who cares it was a second round pick. You can say that with pretty much any position other than the QB. Surround a QB with mediocre talent and none of them would be very productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Surround a QB with mediocre talent and none of them would be very productive. Two things: 1) Jets have a good running game, Decker, Kerley and Salas are better than mediocre IMO. 2) If it is mediocre, or bad as many people want to claim, Idzik may want to stop drafting DL and DB's and actually use some high draft picks on game breaking offensive players, just a thought, as crazy as it may be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I can see somebody being put out to pasture from the front office. The real firing will come at season's end, in the form of a "resignation." Has to be a holdover doing all this leaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I ******* hate this team. Seriously. Almost makes you want to be a Giants fan. Then you realize that man on man butt touching is part of their initiation and you just fall back in love with the Green and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHA, where was thi story last year? Damn, we all knew he was NOT a finished product. look at the offense in WV, its not a pro type offense. He needed some time to get acclimated....he got that last year during his trial by fire. Now, he has to perform. If he doesn't then guess what...we are drafting a QB in rd 1 next year. If it was Idzik's call then this could be just another whiff in the draft for him. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Seriously. Almost makes you want to be a Giants fan. Then you realize that man on man butt touching is part of their initiation and you just fall back in love with the Green and White. Ahhh, so that explains why most of the mods have not been around here much lately.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 GM's decision to draft the player? Check Draft room argues about player? Check Literally happens on every NFL team. If it's the same people who put the draft grades on Vlad Ducasse, Mark Sanchez, Kyle Wilson, Vernon Gholston, Shonn Greene, Stephen Hill and Jalen Saunders than they can go **** themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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