TuscanyTile2 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Mariotta = Joey Harrington 2.0 no thanks.... That's Joe Harrington to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I feel a little for Rex. I'm gonna' miss him. End of an era in the AFC East. I wonder what's going through his head right now. He knows the heat is on, he knows he has no quarterback, no secondary, and he's got Manning, Brady, and 1-6 staring him right in the face. Then the Bills which are no gimme, and Orton is kind of a boss. Then you go into Arrowhead. That's potentially 1-8. Then Steelers, Bills, Dolphins, Vikings, Titans, Patriots, Dolphins. Might get bad before the end. Even the division games against Buffalo and Miami won't be easy because defenses know how to ruin Geno's life now. There's enough film lol. I was a little sympathetic this last week towards Rex at the Jets post presser. This is his mess but it isn't all his mess. Woody is the Jerry Jones of the AFC, only without the football knowledge. Most of the 2014 dumpster fire is probably on him. I understand rooting for him because he was given your colors, and being hopefuly, but everyone knew Geno was a bust since draft day. Awful draft pick, awful handling of the Sanchez situation, lot of awful I bet is more Woody than Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I wonder what's going through his head right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Idzik was basically the only girl left in the bar at last call. After being spurned by Gamble, Telesco, and Caldwell (and Eric Decosta, but in fairness he declined all interviews to stay with Baltimore), we were desperate to sign someone - anyone. At the end of the day, it was between Idzik, Ted Sundquist, and Omar Khan; the people perceived to be "Tier 1" candidates all balked due to the Rex situation. Repeating this doesn't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Repeating this doesn't make it true. You know what's funny? None of the "Gamble interviewed poorly, the Jets are no longer interested in him" articles came out right after he first interviewed, but rather in the run up to the follow-up interview, right after the requirement to retain Rex was made known to him, and he coincidentally lost interest at that exact time. What are the odds... It's almost as if the Jets' PR smeared him through the press to advance a "he didn't decline us, we declined him" narrative, designed to hoodwink the most gullible elements of the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 You know what's funny? None of the "Gamble interviewed poorly, the Jets are no longer interested in him" articles came out right after he first interviewed, but rather in the run up to the follow-up interview, right after the requirement to retain Rex was made known to him, and he coincidentally lost interest at that exact time. What are the odds... It's almost as if the Jets' PR smeared him to advance a "he didn't decline us, we declined him" narrative, designed to hoodwink the most gullible elements of the fanbase. Gamble landed no GM jobs. During the interview process, he put other interviews on hold of concentrate on getting the Jets job. These stories were available in real time. It looked like a done deal, but the Jets passed on him - like the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Gamble landed no GM jobs. During the interview process, he put other interviews on hold of concentrate on getting the Jets job. These stories were available in real time. It looked like a done deal, but the Jets passed on him - like the rest of the league. No, he put one interview on hold, the Jags job, after the first Jets interview (which went well) to concentrate on getting this job. These 'stories' you speak of all acknowledged that he was a virtual lock to be hired following the initial Jets interview. Then, prior to the follow-up interview, the Rex requirement was made known, and all of a sudden he schedules an interview with SD (who ultimately decided on Telesco, which wasn't an indictment on Gamble). By now, the Jags already hired Caldwell. So basically, he interviewed with 2 teams - one of which he passed on (us), and one of which passed on him (SD). But hey, stick to revisionist history and Jets PR spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 No, he put one interview on hold, the Jags job, after the first Jets interview (which went well) to concentrate on getting this job. These 'stories' you speak of all acknowledged that he was a virtual lock to be hired following the initial Jets interview. Then, prior to the follow-up interview, the Rex requirement was made known, and all of a sudden he schedules an interview with SD (who ultimately decided on Telesco, which wasn't an indictment on Gamble). By now, the Jags already hired Caldwell. So basically, he interviewed with 2 teams - one of which he passed on (us), and one of which passed on him (SD). But hey, stick to revisionist history and Jets PR spin. This is not true. The Rex requirement was known from the onset of the process. Rex was sitting in on the interviews, for god's sake. You have other candidates who did pass on the job because of it. it's a legitimate complaint without falsely throwing Gamble in there. Please stop posting things as "facts" that aren't true. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 This is not true. The Rex requirement was known from the onset of the process. Rex was sitting in on the interviews, for god's sake. You have other candidates who did pass on the job because of it. it's a legitimate complaint without falsely throwing Gamble in there. Please stop posting things as "facts" that aren't true. Thanks. Considering Rex was in the Bahamas when Gamble was interviewed, unless the interview took place at the Atlantis resort, I'm pretty sure he wasn't sitting in. But hey, tell me more of these "facts" you speak of. 1st rule of holes: when you're in one, stop digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Considering Rex was in the Bahamas when Gamble was interviewed, unless the interview took place at the Atlantis resort, I'm pretty sure he wasn't sitting in. But hey, tell me more of these "facts" you speak of. 1st rule of holes: when you're in one, stop digging. Crazy idea-entirely plausible a sensible owner(not Woody Johnson) would go back to Gamble and Ross today without the Rex nonsense. Of course Johnson is cheap and won't fire Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 It seems like Idzik was brought in to be a behind the scenes Tannenbaum(pre 2008 Tanny) while Rex and Bradway run the personnel. Gets the sweet title of GM but really has little to no power because personnel isnt his background. I'm not seeing it. I think Idzik is running the show top to bottom, especially if he is making the starting QB decisions. This team was set up to fail the day Woody replaced a cap manager GM with a cap manager GM. I can't see a "big name" HC coming to NY with Idzik installed as GM. At this point it looks like Shane is finally getting his way and this will be Bevel's team next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Think it's very unlikely Gamble turned down the Jets over Rex. He has been friends with Rex for twenty years, and was friends with Buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 what the hell........ this is awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Coach- Charlie Weis. QB- Mark Sanchez. 2015 NFL Free Agents Player Pos. Team Status Dominique Davis QB ATL R Tyrod Taylor QB BAL Thaddeus Lewis QB BUF R Joe Webb QB CAR Jordan Palmer QB CHI Jason Campbell QB CIN Josh Johnson QB CIN Zac Robinson QB CIN R Brian Hoyer QB CLE Caleb Hanie QB DAL Dan Orlovsky QB DET Kellen Moore QB DET R Matt Flynn QB GB Scott Tolzien QB GB Matt Hasselbeck QB IND Ricky Stanzi QB JAX Matt Moore QB MIA Pat Devlin QB MIA R Christian Ponder QB MIN Ryan Mallett QB NE Luke McCown QB NO Curtis Painter QB NYG Rusty Smith QB NYG Michael Vick QB NYJ Trent Edwards QB OAK Mark Sanchez QB PHI Tarvaris Jackson QB SEA Terrelle Pryor QB SEA Blaine Gabbert QB SF Colin Kaepernick QB SF Shaun Hill QB STL Austin Davis QB STL R Jake Locker QB TEN Colt McCoy QB WAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Coach- Charlie Weis. QB- Mark Sanchez. 2015 NFL Free Agents Player Pos. Team Status Dominique Davis QB ATL R Tyrod Taylor QB BAL Thaddeus Lewis QB BUF R Joe Webb QB CAR Jordan Palmer QB CHI Jason Campbell QB CIN Josh Johnson QB CIN Zac Robinson QB CIN R Brian Hoyer QB CLE Caleb Hanie QB DAL Dan Orlovsky QB DET Kellen Moore QB DET R Matt Flynn QB GB Scott Tolzien QB GB Matt Hasselbeck QB IND Ricky Stanzi QB JAX Matt Moore QB MIA Pat Devlin QB MIA R Christian Ponder QB MIN Ryan Mallett QB NE Luke McCown QB NO Curtis Painter QB NYG Rusty Smith QB NYG Michael Vick QB NYJ Trent Edwards QB OAK Mark Sanchez QB PHI Tarvaris Jackson QB SEA Terrelle Pryor QB SEA Blaine Gabbert QB SF Colin Kaepernick QB SF Shaun Hill QB STL Austin Davis QB STL R Jake Locker QB TEN Colt McCoy QB WAS What are the odds Locker will actually hit the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm not seeing it. I think Idzik is running the show top to bottom, especially if he is making the starting QB decisions. This team was set up to fail the day Woody replaced a cap manager GM with a cap manager GM. I can't see a "big name" HC coming to NY with Idzik installed as GM. At this point it looks like Shane is finally getting his way and this will be Bevel's team next year. I really don't want another coordinator promotion at head coach if it can be avoided. Nor do I want a guy out of retirement like Cohwer or Gruden. I could see a guy like Harbaugh coming in here and having Parcells-like success; a quick turnaround, and a quick exit. That wouldn't be my first choice, but I can't say I'd hate it, either. I don't really follow college ball, but my preference would be stealing a successful, active head coach from those ranks. He'd be the first guy in here since Parcells not learning how to be a head coach on the job, and coming from college I'd expect that he'd be able to help Idzik with the draft. Help he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjetsfan69 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 What are the odds Locker will actually hit the market? Pass. Locker sucks. He is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjetsfan69 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Coach- Charlie Weis. QB- Mark Sanchez. 2015 NFL Free Agents Player Pos. Team Status Dominique Davis QB ATL R Tyrod Taylor QB BAL Thaddeus Lewis QB BUF R Joe Webb QB CAR Jordan Palmer QB CHI Jason Campbell QB CIN Josh Johnson QB CIN Zac Robinson QB CIN R Brian Hoyer QB CLE Caleb Hanie QB DAL Dan Orlovsky QB DET Kellen Moore QB DET R Matt Flynn QB GB Scott Tolzien QB GB Matt Hasselbeck QB IND Ricky Stanzi QB JAX Matt Moore QB MIA Pat Devlin QB MIA R Christian Ponder QB MIN Ryan Mallett QB NE Luke McCown QB NO Curtis Painter QB NYG Rusty Smith QB NYG Michael Vick QB NYJ Trent Edwards QB OAK Mark Sanchez QB PHI Tarvaris Jackson QB SEA Terrelle Pryor QB SEA Blaine Gabbert QB SF Colin Kaepernick QB SF Shaun Hill QB STL Austin Davis QB STL R Jake Locker QB TEN Colt McCoy QB WAS Kaepernick already signed an extension with SF. I guess Hoyer would be the only name on that list worth looking that. Everyone else on that list is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjetsfan69 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I really don't want another coordinator promotion at head coach if it can be avoided. Nor do I want a guy out of retirement like Cohwer or Gruden. I could see a guy like Harbaugh coming in here and having Parcells-like success; a quick turnaround, and a quick exit. That wouldn't be my first choice, but I can't say I'd hate it, either. I don't really follow college ball, but my preference would be stealing a successful, active head coach from those ranks. He'd be the first guy in here since Parcells not learning how to be a head coach on the job, and coming from college I'd expect that he'd be able to help Idzik with the draft. Help he needs. Zero chance Gruden or Cowher come here to coach. Gruden loves announcing and if he ever went back to coaching it would be in college. We might be able to sign Bill Cowher to be the GM if Woody opens up the trust-fund to him. Cowher has no interest in ever coaching again but a GM job he might be interested in. Nobody in the NFL drafts as well as the Steelers and Cowher I'm sure was a part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Zero chance Gruden or Cowher come here to coach. Gruden loves announcing and if he ever went back to coaching it would be in college. We might be able to sign Bill Cowher to be the GM if Woody opens up the trust-fund to him. Cowher has no interest in ever coaching again but a GM job he might be interested in. Nobody in the NFL drafts as well as the Steelers and Cowher I'm sure was a part of that. Lol, good! I was saying in that post that I don't want those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjetsfan69 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lol, good! I was saying in that post that I don't want those guys. Cowher I would want as a GM. Nobody in the NFL drafts as well as the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The QB and coaching possibilities for Jets next season By Bart HubbuchOctober 7, 2014 | 10:44am Modal Trigger The QB and coaching possibilities for Jets next season (Clockwise from top left) Jameis Winston, Matt Barkley, Brett Hundley, David Shaw, Jim Harbaugh and Adam Gase. Photo: Getty Images (5), AP Who’s got next? With it looking like the Jets will be in the market for a new starting quarterback and a new head coach for next season, Post NFL writer Bart Hubbuch breaks downs the top candidates: Quarterback prospects 1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon: Might go No. 1 overall, so the Jets will have competition. 2. Brett Hundley, UCLA: Certainly looks the part physically, although his ability to be a pocket passer remains to be seen. 3. Jameis Winston, Florida State: Undisciplined and too much off-field baggage, but boy, is he talented. 4. Trade: The free-agent crop next winter is horrendous (think: Blaine Gabbert), but the Jets could look into a deal for Matt Barkley or — dare we say it? — Johnny Manziel. 5. Connor Cook, Michigan State: A bit of a dark horse, although QBs from this school seem to be playing pretty well in the NFL these days. Coaching prospects 1. Jim Harbaugh, 49ers head coach: Lots of people around the league think he’s certain to leave the 49ers. But would Woody Johnson get into a bidding war? 2. Greg Roman, 49ers offensive coordinator: If you can’t get Harbaugh, Harbaugh’s highly respected play-caller wouldn’t be a bad backup plan. 3. Adam Gase, Broncos offensive coordinator: Lots of buzz, but your grandmother could look good calling plays for Peyton Manning. 4. David Shaw, Stanford head coach: Harbaugh’s successor is smart and always seems to be in demand in the NFL. 5. Pep Hamilton, Colts offensive coordinator: He gets a lot of grief from Colts fans for his sometimes-wacky play calling, but Hamilton is well thought of in league circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 How about Mark Dantonio of Michigan St and Conor Cook combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjetsfan69 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The QB and coaching possibilities for Jets next season By Bart HubbuchOctober 7, 2014 | 10:44am Modal Trigger The QB and coaching possibilities for Jets next season (Clockwise from top left) Jameis Winston, Matt Barkley, Brett Hundley, David Shaw, Jim Harbaugh and Adam Gase. Photo: Getty Images (5), AP Who’s got next? With it looking like the Jets will be in the market for a new starting quarterback and a new head coach for next season, Post NFL writer Bart Hubbuch breaks downs the top candidates: Quarterback prospects 1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon: Might go No. 1 overall, so the Jets will have competition. 2. Brett Hundley, UCLA: Certainly looks the part physically, although his ability to be a pocket passer remains to be seen. 3. Jameis Winston, Florida State: Undisciplined and too much off-field baggage, but boy, is he talented. 4. Trade: The free-agent crop next winter is horrendous (think: Blaine Gabbert), but the Jets could look into a deal for Matt Barkley or — dare we say it? — Johnny Manziel. 5. Connor Cook, Michigan State: A bit of a dark horse, although QBs from this school seem to be playing pretty well in the NFL these days. Coaching prospects 1. Jim Harbaugh, 49ers head coach: Lots of people around the league think he’s certain to leave the 49ers. But would Woody Johnson get into a bidding war? 2. Greg Roman, 49ers offensive coordinator: If you can’t get Harbaugh, Harbaugh’s highly respected play-caller wouldn’t be a bad backup plan. 3. Adam Gase, Broncos offensive coordinator: Lots of buzz, but your grandmother could look good calling plays for Peyton Manning. 4. David Shaw, Stanford head coach: Harbaugh’s successor is smart and always seems to be in demand in the NFL. 5. Pep Hamilton, Colts offensive coordinator: He gets a lot of grief from Colts fans for his sometimes-wacky play calling, but Hamilton is well thought of in league circles. Winston is the most talented QB in this year's draft. He's Cam Newton but a better passer. I know he's a headcase but you cannot teach that kind of talent. The Jets fans saying they prefer Mariota over Winston are the same Jets fans who thought it was a good idea to sign Jacoby Ford over guys like Desean Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 What are the odds Locker will actually hit the market? He's so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detjetsfan69 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 He's so bad Locker is terrible. I'd actually prefer Geno over him that's how much that guy sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 why newspapers are dying: exhibit a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 sorry double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Locker is only good when he plays the Jets- could not resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The QB and coaching possibilities for Jets next season By Bart HubbuchOctober 7, 2014 | 10:44am Modal Trigger The QB and coaching possibilities for Jets next season (Clockwise from top left) Jameis Winston, Matt Barkley, Brett Hundley, David Shaw, Jim Harbaugh and Adam Gase. Photo: Getty Images (5), AP Who’s got next? With it looking like the Jets will be in the market for a new starting quarterback and a new head coach for next season, Post NFL writer Bart Hubbuch breaks downs the top candidates: Quarterback prospects 1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon: Might go No. 1 overall, so the Jets will have competition. 2. Brett Hundley, UCLA: Certainly looks the part physically, although his ability to be a pocket passer remains to be seen. 3. Jameis Winston, Florida State: Undisciplined and too much off-field baggage, but boy, is he talented. 4. Trade: The free-agent crop next winter is horrendous (think: Blaine Gabbert), but the Jets could look into a deal for Matt Barkley or — dare we say it? — Johnny Manziel. 5. Connor Cook, Michigan State: A bit of a dark horse, although QBs from this school seem to be playing pretty well in the NFL these days. Coaching prospects 1. Jim Harbaugh, 49ers head coach: Lots of people around the league think he’s certain to leave the 49ers. But would Woody Johnson get into a bidding war? 2. Greg Roman, 49ers offensive coordinator: If you can’t get Harbaugh, Harbaugh’s highly respected play-caller wouldn’t be a bad backup plan. 3. Adam Gase, Broncos offensive coordinator: Lots of buzz, but your grandmother could look good calling plays for Peyton Manning. 4. David Shaw, Stanford head coach: Harbaugh’s successor is smart and always seems to be in demand in the NFL. 5. Pep Hamilton, Colts offensive coordinator: He gets a lot of grief from Colts fans for his sometimes-wacky play calling, but Hamilton is well thought of in league circles. It's gonna be this, imo: HC: 1. Bevell 1a. Dan Quinn Draft: 1(5)--Amari Cooper or Vic Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Winston is the most talented QB in this year's draft. He's Cam Newton but a better passer. I know he's a headcase but you cannot teach that kind of talent. The Jets fans saying they prefer Mariota over Winston are the same Jets fans who thought it was a good idea to sign Jacoby Ford over guys like Desean Jackson. I agree. If he is on the board when the Jets pick, and he might be with his off field issues, and they pass, I am going to be really upset. it would be so typical Jets. Think Marino dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 How about Mark Dantonio of Michigan St and Conor Cook combo Dont you dare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Think it's very unlikely Gamble turned down the Jets over Rex. He has been friends with Rex for twenty years, and was friends with Buddy It's more about the lack of control, the inability to "pick one's own guy" than any dislike for Rex personally. My point was that the Rex stipulation chased away several 'tier 1' GM candidates (despite 'slats' relentless insistence to the contrary, Gamble is included in that group), and is the reason we're stuck with a 2nd tier candidate in Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 He's so bad To be honest, I haven't followed his career in Tennessee. I know he's been injured a lot, but that's pretty much it. I liked him a lot in college. I agree that your boy Bevell is going to be the next coach. I'd be shocked if Idzik went with someone else. Hoyer wouldn't be a bad guy to bring in to hold the fort while they groomed a young draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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